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nyk4ever
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1/13/2015  1:36 PM
mreinman wrote:this gets my vote for most ridiculous post/suggestion of the month.

theres been a ton of entrants into that discussion.

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1/13/2015  1:49 PM
nyk4ever wrote:why would you give up a first round pick for someone who's probably going to be a free-agent next year anyway?

Had Phil traded Shumpert by himself what would you all have expected back?

A 1st rounder right even if it had heavy protection


So why wouldn't we trade a future first for $7-8mil of cap space

So in other words you guys absolutely hated the Cavs trade

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1/13/2015  2:02 PM
So $29-30mil of cap space is just right but $36-37mil oh no way too much

It's okay to trade 1st round value for $6-7mil of cap but not $7-8mil of cap


I can understand not wanting to trade future assets

But the feelings and principles should always have harmony and not a double standard

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1/13/2015  2:07 PM
F500ONE wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:why would you give up a first round pick for someone who's probably going to be a free-agent next year anyway?

Had Phil traded Shumpert by himself what would you all have expected back?

A 1st rounder right even if it had heavy protection


So why wouldn't we trade a future first for $7-8mil of cap space

So in other words you guys absolutely hated the Cavs trade

the difference

between kevin love

and wilson chandler

is pretty vast

that's a very poor

comparison for you

to make

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1/13/2015  2:18 PM
nyk4ever wrote:
F500ONE wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:why would you give up a first round pick for someone who's probably going to be a free-agent next year anyway?

Had Phil traded Shumpert by himself what would you all have expected back?

A 1st rounder right even if it had heavy protection


So why wouldn't we trade a future first for $7-8mil of cap space

So in other words you guys absolutely hated the Cavs trade

the difference

between kevin love

and wilson chandler

is pretty vast

that's a very poor

comparison for you

to make


That's not the difference the difference is simply asset for cap space

J.R. Smith and Shump is the same value as Calderon and a future 1st

We can't talk our way out of this

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1/13/2015  2:32 PM
nyk4ever wrote:
F500ONE wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:why would you give up a first round pick for someone who's probably going to be a free-agent next year anyway?

Had Phil traded Shumpert by himself what would you all have expected back?

A 1st rounder right even if it had heavy protection


So why wouldn't we trade a future first for $7-8mil of cap space

So in other words you guys absolutely hated the Cavs trade

the difference

between kevin love

and wilson chandler

is pretty vast

that's a very poor

comparison for you

to make


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1/13/2015  2:51 PM
mreinman wrote:this gets my vote for most ridiculous post/suggestion of the month.

second

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1/13/2015  4:41 PM
F500,

There are times when we all made bad posts or a thought jumped thru our fingers without much thought. Some a more frequent occurance.
There are times when you say, "yeah, that was a silly thought", or "upon further thought, Im wrong".......
This might be one of those times.
To defend a point even when its not constructed properly fuels my perception that you'd rather be "right" than "Accurate"!
I think the fact some are even willing to argue this with you is pretty generous of them.

Usually I try to bring a point of conversation and even my position. But in this case all I can say is: "Shy Wilson for Calderone and an 1st round pick is just ignorent".
I should say why right? Nope, its just so plainly bad I cannot dignify it but very relieved your not running the team.

I should add that ideas like that make you really uncredible to even remotely critique Phil on any mistake he might have made. its like you just suck up bandwith and waste it.

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1/13/2015  4:45 PM
F500ONE wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:
F500ONE wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:why would you give up a first round pick for someone who's probably going to be a free-agent next year anyway?

Had Phil traded Shumpert by himself what would you all have expected back?

A 1st rounder right even if it had heavy protection


So why wouldn't we trade a future first for $7-8mil of cap space

So in other words you guys absolutely hated the Cavs trade

the difference

between kevin love

and wilson chandler

is pretty vast

that's a very poor

comparison for you

to make


That's not the difference the difference is simply asset for cap space

J.R. Smith and Shump is the same value as Calderon and a future 1st

We can't talk our way out of this


You are talking out of your azz. Get some basketball knowledge.You can't justify giving up a #1 for Chandler. You are acting like a 12 yr old kid.

fishmike 9/27/2024 11:00 PM Ug I hate this. The idea of Towns is great until you see what a pussy he is. Jules is a dog. DD was a flamethrower locked up cheap for 3 more years. First Leon move I hate
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1/13/2015  4:57 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/13/2015  4:59 PM
F500ONE wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:why would you give up a first round pick for someone who's probably going to be a free-agent next year anyway?

Had Phil traded Shumpert by himself what would you all have expected back?

A 1st rounder right even if it had heavy protection


So why wouldn't we trade a future first for $7-8mil of cap space

So in other words you guys absolutely hated the Cavs trade

But if we never assume Chandlers and his contract then the same amount of "cap space" is open at the end of the season, right? So we give up a pick to assume a player who will then walk leaving the same amount of space open if we had never assumed the tail end of his contract anyway? Please explain what you meant cause this makes no sense. What am I missing here?

How is trading a 1st for Chandler in any way the same as dumping Shump + JR? Giving up a 2018 1st for Wilson Chandler, especially on an expiring contract or not, would be a pretty awful move.

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1/13/2015  7:33 PM
calderon for chandler straight up, maybe a 2nd rounder. Chandler is not a good option for the triangle, and With a coach like fisher, it is absolutely imperative that we acquire players with IQ's through the roof.
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1/13/2015  7:41 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/13/2015  7:41 PM
Denver is having a fire sell. Afflalo is probably on the way out too.


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1/13/2015  8:04 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:Denver is having a fire sell. Afflalo is probably on the way out too.


Two retarded GM's at work, didn't Nate play with Boston?

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1/13/2015  8:14 PM
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yellowboy90 wrote:Denver is having a fire sell. Afflalo is probably on the way out too.


Two retarded GM's at work, didn't Nate play with Boston?


Rumor is that the Celts plan to buy Lil Nate out.
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1/13/2015  8:17 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/13/2015  11:06 PM
F500ONE wrote:


That's right the Nuggets want picks or probably youth

Not in the business of giving them away


Anyway this guy we need back badly

I'd trade Calderon and 2018 1st for him

So, right after you praise thr Nuggs for not being in the business of giving up picks, you want the knicks to give up a 1st? How is that good business? also, its clear you feel that Pjax gave up too much for cap relief, so why compound the problem by clearly giving up so much for a soon to be FA?

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1/13/2015  9:19 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:Denver is having a fire sell. Afflalo is probably on the way out too.


Two retarded GM's at work, didn't Nate play with Boston?

Ainge retarded? The guy is rebuilding that team pretty well. I think they have like 10 or 11 1st rnd picks in the next 3 yrs.

fishmike 9/27/2024 11:00 PM Ug I hate this. The idea of Towns is great until you see what a pussy he is. Jules is a dog. DD was a flamethrower locked up cheap for 3 more years. First Leon move I hate
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1/13/2015  9:52 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/13/2015  9:53 PM
F500ONE wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:why would you give up a first round pick for someone who's probably going to be a free-agent next year anyway?

Had Phil traded Shumpert by himself what would you all have expected back?

A 1st rounder right even if it had heavy protection


So why wouldn't we trade a future first for $7-8mil of cap space

So in other words you guys absolutely hated the Cavs trade

You're either retarded, trolling or perhaps both. Since you've apparently been banned multiple times, I'm guessing both. Chandler is basically a throw away. Calderone's salary although inefficient is manageable given the cap space the Knicks have already tucked away and the looming TV deal revenue which will increase the cap. Shumpert was a first rounder 4 years ago and his value has diminished with the Knicks. The 2018 pick has value as potential...a tradable commodity wortj more than Shumpert and 7 mil in cap space combined.

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1/13/2015  10:39 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/13/2015  11:01 PM
foosballnick wrote:
F500ONE wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:why would you give up a first round pick for someone who's probably going to be a free-agent next year anyway?

Had Phil traded Shumpert by himself what would you all have expected back?

A 1st rounder right even if it had heavy protection


So why wouldn't we trade a future first for $7-8mil of cap space

So in other words you guys absolutely hated the Cavs trade

You're either retarded, trolling or perhaps both. Since you've apparently been banned multiple times, I'm guessing both. Chandler is basically a throw away. Calderone's salary although inefficient is manageable given the cap space the Knicks have already tucked away and the looming TV deal revenue which will increase the cap. Shumpert was a first rounder 4 years ago and his value has diminished with the Knicks. The 2018 pick has value as potential...a tradable commodity wortj more than Shumpert and 7 mil in cap space combined.


Stop the lies


Obviously not because one 1st rounder couldn't

Get the Cavs Mozgov it took 2


Dion Waiter had more value than one 1st rounder


If we put the 1st rounder on the market right now by itself

I bet it doesn't bring back more than a talent like Tony Wroten or Dennis Shroeder


What all of you are doing is looking at the poster again

Making this real personal and our past history instead of


Judging based on what the market value suggest where the value lies

And this thread is an obvious omission that no matter the cap space


You guys don't have confidence in Phil's ability to work with it

Nor his ability to put together a team worthwhile where a 1st


Would be of no concern 3yrs down the road

I was thinking outside the box to get some talent on the team NOW


And give the team a little more flexibility

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1/13/2015  11:35 PM
F500ONE wrote:
foosballnick wrote:
F500ONE wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:why would you give up a first round pick for someone who's probably going to be a free-agent next year anyway?

Had Phil traded Shumpert by himself what would you all have expected back?

A 1st rounder right even if it had heavy protection


So why wouldn't we trade a future first for $7-8mil of cap space

So in other words you guys absolutely hated the Cavs trade

You're either retarded, trolling or perhaps both. Since you've apparently been banned multiple times, I'm guessing both. Chandler is basically a throw away. Calderone's salary although inefficient is manageable given the cap space the Knicks have already tucked away and the looming TV deal revenue which will increase the cap. Shumpert was a first rounder 4 years ago and his value has diminished with the Knicks. The 2018 pick has value as potential...a tradable commodity wortj more than Shumpert and 7 mil in cap space combined.


Stop the lies


Obviously not because one 1st rounder couldn't

Get the Cavs Mozgov it took 2


Dion Waiter had more value than one 1st rounder


If we put the 1st rounder on the market right now by itself

I bet it doesn't bring back more than a talent like Tony Wroten or Dennis Shroeder


What all of you are doing is looking at the poster again

Making this real personal and our past history instead of


Judging based on what the market value suggest where the value lies

And this thread is an obvious omission that no matter the cap space


You guys don't have confidence in Phil's ability to work with it

Nor his ability to put together a team worthwhile where a 1st


Would be of no concern 3yrs down the road

I was thinking outside the box to get some talent on the team NOW


And give the team a little more flexibility


The picks are heavily protected and it is predicted that they will be second rounders.
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/236168/Cavaliers-Acquire-Timofey-Mozgov-From-Nuggets-For-Two-1st-Rounders
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1/13/2015  11:43 PM
CrushAlot wrote:The picks are heavily protected and it is predicted that they will be second rounders.
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/236168/Cavaliers-Acquire-Timofey-Mozgov-From-Nuggets-For-Two-1st-Rounders

Not really The Cavs for sure will be a Top 12 team next yr[currently 14th]

If not this yr, I believe they go on a mini run second half of season


Keep in mind Lebron missed like 10gms already


The protection next yr basically says as long as they

Aren't a fringe playoff team Nugz get the 1st

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