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Bonn1997
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Is our situation better or worse than a blank slate/expansion team?
I'd rather have Melo at the super max and the 2015 lottery pick
I'd rather have a blank slate
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Nalod
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1/10/2015  5:21 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/10/2015  5:22 PM
F500ONE wrote:With Melo here it's 10 times worse

Phil probably could have had Nurkic


If he would have entertained a S&T with the Bulls

You sure about that?

If F500 could let Phil use his "hot tub time machine", I bet we'd do real well!

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nixluva
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1/10/2015  7:29 PM
Swishfm3 wrote:
holfresh wrote:Reminds me of the Spurs before Tim Duncan...I fully expected this to be a down year..Just not this bad...We aren't in a bad situation..I'm more scared of the GM and Coach than anything...

This

I hate coaches/organizations that play to a certain system and refuse to adjust to the personal.

Players will go where the money is at...and although I agree that it takes a special kind of person to make it in NYC (a lot of fickle fans and horrible sports writers) I think what will scare players more is the triangle offense.

We are going to have a draft pick and get a player with loads of "potential"...no worries there....free agency is where Phil needs to hit a home run....


The Triangle is EXTREMELY flexible as Phil has used it with different rosters over the years. Phil just needs to find the right players. Guys with IQ n good overall skills. Atlanta is a perfect example of how u can win with good talent even without the big names.
mreinman
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1/10/2015  7:37 PM
nixluva wrote:
Swishfm3 wrote:
holfresh wrote:Reminds me of the Spurs before Tim Duncan...I fully expected this to be a down year..Just not this bad...We aren't in a bad situation..I'm more scared of the GM and Coach than anything...

This

I hate coaches/organizations that play to a certain system and refuse to adjust to the personal.

Players will go where the money is at...and although I agree that it takes a special kind of person to make it in NYC (a lot of fickle fans and horrible sports writers) I think what will scare players more is the triangle offense.

We are going to have a draft pick and get a player with loads of "potential"...no worries there....free agency is where Phil needs to hit a home run....


The Triangle is EXTREMELY flexible as Phil has used it with different rosters over the years. Phil just needs to find the right players. Guys with IQ n good overall skills. Atlanta is a perfect example of how u can win with good talent even without the big names.

Atlanta has a great coach who learned from the best and like the Pistons, though they are not stars, they are many really good players.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
Swishfm3
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1/10/2015  7:42 PM
nixluva wrote:
Swishfm3 wrote:
holfresh wrote:Reminds me of the Spurs before Tim Duncan...I fully expected this to be a down year..Just not this bad...We aren't in a bad situation..I'm more scared of the GM and Coach than anything...

This

I hate coaches/organizations that play to a certain system and refuse to adjust to the personal.

Players will go where the money is at...and although I agree that it takes a special kind of person to make it in NYC (a lot of fickle fans and horrible sports writers) I think what will scare players more is the triangle offense.

We are going to have a draft pick and get a player with loads of "potential"...no worries there....free agency is where Phil needs to hit a home run....


The Triangle is EXTREMELY flexible as Phil has used it with different rosters over the years. Phil just needs to find the right players. Guys with IQ n good overall skills. Atlanta is a perfect example of how u can win with good talent even without the big names.

Yes he did..with players named M.Jordan, S.Pippen, T.Kukoc, S.O'neal, K.Bryant & P.Gasol.

You see a player of that caliber in this coming free agency class?....and what does M. Budenholzer have to do with this? Is he running the triangle off. in Atlanta?

mreinman
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1/10/2015  7:42 PM
Swishfm3 wrote:
nixluva wrote:
Swishfm3 wrote:
holfresh wrote:Reminds me of the Spurs before Tim Duncan...I fully expected this to be a down year..Just not this bad...We aren't in a bad situation..I'm more scared of the GM and Coach than anything...

This

I hate coaches/organizations that play to a certain system and refuse to adjust to the personal.

Players will go where the money is at...and although I agree that it takes a special kind of person to make it in NYC (a lot of fickle fans and horrible sports writers) I think what will scare players more is the triangle offense.

We are going to have a draft pick and get a player with loads of "potential"...no worries there....free agency is where Phil needs to hit a home run....


The Triangle is EXTREMELY flexible as Phil has used it with different rosters over the years. Phil just needs to find the right players. Guys with IQ n good overall skills. Atlanta is a perfect example of how u can win with good talent even without the big names.

Yes he did..with players named M.Jordan, S.Pippen, T.Kukoc, S.O'neal, K.Bryant & P.Gasol.

You see a player of that caliber in this coming free agency class?....and what does M. Budenholzer have to do with this? Is he running the triangle off. in Atlanta?

yeah ... his post made very little sense.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
newyorknewyork
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1/10/2015  7:44 PM
mreinman wrote:
nixluva wrote:
Swishfm3 wrote:
holfresh wrote:Reminds me of the Spurs before Tim Duncan...I fully expected this to be a down year..Just not this bad...We aren't in a bad situation..I'm more scared of the GM and Coach than anything...

This

I hate coaches/organizations that play to a certain system and refuse to adjust to the personal.

Players will go where the money is at...and although I agree that it takes a special kind of person to make it in NYC (a lot of fickle fans and horrible sports writers) I think what will scare players more is the triangle offense.

We are going to have a draft pick and get a player with loads of "potential"...no worries there....free agency is where Phil needs to hit a home run....


The Triangle is EXTREMELY flexible as Phil has used it with different rosters over the years. Phil just needs to find the right players. Guys with IQ n good overall skills. Atlanta is a perfect example of how u can win with good talent even without the big names.

Atlanta has a great coach who learned from the best and like the Pistons, though they are not stars, they are many really good players.

Atlanta won't win the championship though until they add a legit star. That said they are still a very good team because they can space the floor on offense as well as help defend/Pick and roll/post defend well.

https://vote.nba.com/en Vote for your Knicks.
mreinman
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1/10/2015  7:45 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:
mreinman wrote:
nixluva wrote:
Swishfm3 wrote:
holfresh wrote:Reminds me of the Spurs before Tim Duncan...I fully expected this to be a down year..Just not this bad...We aren't in a bad situation..I'm more scared of the GM and Coach than anything...

This

I hate coaches/organizations that play to a certain system and refuse to adjust to the personal.

Players will go where the money is at...and although I agree that it takes a special kind of person to make it in NYC (a lot of fickle fans and horrible sports writers) I think what will scare players more is the triangle offense.

We are going to have a draft pick and get a player with loads of "potential"...no worries there....free agency is where Phil needs to hit a home run....


The Triangle is EXTREMELY flexible as Phil has used it with different rosters over the years. Phil just needs to find the right players. Guys with IQ n good overall skills. Atlanta is a perfect example of how u can win with good talent even without the big names.

Atlanta has a great coach who learned from the best and like the Pistons, though they are not stars, they are many really good players.

Atlanta won't win the championship though until they add a legit star. That said they are still a very good team because they can space the floor on offense as well as help defend/Pick and roll/post defend well.

maybe but they are doing the best with what they have.

they play beautiful basketball.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
newyorknewyork
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1/10/2015  7:46 PM
mreinman wrote:
Swishfm3 wrote:
nixluva wrote:
Swishfm3 wrote:
holfresh wrote:Reminds me of the Spurs before Tim Duncan...I fully expected this to be a down year..Just not this bad...We aren't in a bad situation..I'm more scared of the GM and Coach than anything...

This

I hate coaches/organizations that play to a certain system and refuse to adjust to the personal.

Players will go where the money is at...and although I agree that it takes a special kind of person to make it in NYC (a lot of fickle fans and horrible sports writers) I think what will scare players more is the triangle offense.

We are going to have a draft pick and get a player with loads of "potential"...no worries there....free agency is where Phil needs to hit a home run....


The Triangle is EXTREMELY flexible as Phil has used it with different rosters over the years. Phil just needs to find the right players. Guys with IQ n good overall skills. Atlanta is a perfect example of how u can win with good talent even without the big names.

Yes he did..with players named M.Jordan, S.Pippen, T.Kukoc, S.O'neal, K.Bryant & P.Gasol.

You see a player of that caliber in this coming free agency class?....and what does M. Budenholzer have to do with this? Is he running the triangle off. in Atlanta?

yeah ... his post made very little sense.

Well wouldn't the hope be that the guy we draft can become on the caliber of one of these players?

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newyorknewyork
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1/10/2015  7:48 PM
mreinman wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
mreinman wrote:
nixluva wrote:
Swishfm3 wrote:
holfresh wrote:Reminds me of the Spurs before Tim Duncan...I fully expected this to be a down year..Just not this bad...We aren't in a bad situation..I'm more scared of the GM and Coach than anything...

This

I hate coaches/organizations that play to a certain system and refuse to adjust to the personal.

Players will go where the money is at...and although I agree that it takes a special kind of person to make it in NYC (a lot of fickle fans and horrible sports writers) I think what will scare players more is the triangle offense.

We are going to have a draft pick and get a player with loads of "potential"...no worries there....free agency is where Phil needs to hit a home run....


The Triangle is EXTREMELY flexible as Phil has used it with different rosters over the years. Phil just needs to find the right players. Guys with IQ n good overall skills. Atlanta is a perfect example of how u can win with good talent even without the big names.

Atlanta has a great coach who learned from the best and like the Pistons, though they are not stars, they are many really good players.

Atlanta won't win the championship though until they add a legit star. That said they are still a very good team because they can space the floor on offense as well as help defend/Pick and roll/post defend well.

maybe but they are doing the best with what they have.

they play beautiful basketball.

They basically do the same things that MDA was doing with the Suns. They have less calibre stars players but better depth.

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