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nixluva
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1/8/2015  12:12 PM
F500ONE wrote:
misterearl wrote:Melo is being an opportunist to pick the marquee games to make an appearance. Either he is injured or not.

If he is not 100 per cent, what is the point of playing?

misterearl gets it, nixluva flunks again


Almost no player is 100% healthy at this point in the season. Both of you don't know exactly what is wrong with Melo and so it's hard from here to question his right to play thru pain or not. If he's been told that it's not a career threatening issue and that it's up to him whether he wants to play thru the pain then it's up to him. Players in all sports play with swollen joints or have to heavily tape a body part and still play on all the time. No one questions the Football player who plays thru pain or with a cast on, but with Melo we have to jump on him. I can understand the feeling of wanting him to shut it down, but it is his decision.
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1/8/2015  12:15 PM
nixluva wrote:
F500ONE wrote:
misterearl wrote:Melo is being an opportunist to pick the marquee games to make an appearance. Either he is injured or not.

If he is not 100 per cent, what is the point of playing?

misterearl gets it, nixluva flunks again


Almost no player is 100% healthy at this point in the season. Both of you don't know exactly what is wrong with Melo and so it's hard from here to question his right to play thru pain or not. If he's been told that it's not a career threatening issue and that it's up to him whether he wants to play thru the pain then it's up to him. Players in all sports play with swollen joints or have to heavily tape a body part and still play on all the time. No one questions the Football player who plays thru pain or with a cast on, but with Melo we have to jump on him. I can understand the feeling of wanting him to shut it down, but it is his decision.

You can't pick and choose which games you want to play and those you don't

Trying to play in London and during the All-Star is being an


Meloptoutunist no other way you can skate around this

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1/8/2015  12:43 PM
nixluva wrote:
F500ONE wrote:
misterearl wrote:Melo is being an opportunist to pick the marquee games to make an appearance. Either he is injured or not.

If he is not 100 per cent, what is the point of playing?

misterearl gets it, nixluva flunks again


it is his decision.

herein lies the root of the problem.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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1/8/2015  12:55 PM
F500ONE wrote:
nixluva wrote:
F500ONE wrote:
misterearl wrote:Melo is being an opportunist to pick the marquee games to make an appearance. Either he is injured or not.

If he is not 100 per cent, what is the point of playing?

misterearl gets it, nixluva flunks again


Almost no player is 100% healthy at this point in the season. Both of you don't know exactly what is wrong with Melo and so it's hard from here to question his right to play thru pain or not. If he's been told that it's not a career threatening issue and that it's up to him whether he wants to play thru the pain then it's up to him. Players in all sports play with swollen joints or have to heavily tape a body part and still play on all the time. No one questions the Football player who plays thru pain or with a cast on, but with Melo we have to jump on him. I can understand the feeling of wanting him to shut it down, but it is his decision.

You can't pick and choose which games you want to play and those you don't

Trying to play in London and during the All-Star is being an


Meloptoutunist no other way you can skate around this

You keep ignoring the main point in all of this. It's his decision. He's free to decide to play thru pain or not. You may not like his reasons for wanting to stick it out but it's really not about you or any other Knick fan. I really think you guys are being deliberately biased here in that you know players do in fact play with pain all the time. Not that one shouldn't use some sense of reason, but in the end Melo wants to play in the All Star game and that's his right to do that. It doesn't have to mean anything to you but it clearly means something to Melo and he wants to try and play.

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1/8/2015  12:58 PM
nixluva wrote:
F500ONE wrote:
nixluva wrote:
F500ONE wrote:
misterearl wrote:Melo is being an opportunist to pick the marquee games to make an appearance. Either he is injured or not.

If he is not 100 per cent, what is the point of playing?

misterearl gets it, nixluva flunks again


Almost no player is 100% healthy at this point in the season. Both of you don't know exactly what is wrong with Melo and so it's hard from here to question his right to play thru pain or not. If he's been told that it's not a career threatening issue and that it's up to him whether he wants to play thru the pain then it's up to him. Players in all sports play with swollen joints or have to heavily tape a body part and still play on all the time. No one questions the Football player who plays thru pain or with a cast on, but with Melo we have to jump on him. I can understand the feeling of wanting him to shut it down, but it is his decision.

You can't pick and choose which games you want to play and those you don't

Trying to play in London and during the All-Star is being an


Meloptoutunist no other way you can skate around this

You keep ignoring the main point in all of this. It's his decision. He's free to decide to play thru pain or not. You may not like his reasons for wanting to stick it out but it's really not about you or any other Knick fan. I really think you guys are being deliberately biased here in that you know players do in fact play with pain all the time. Not that one shouldn't use some sense of reason, but in the end Melo wants to play in the All Star game and that's his right to do that. It doesn't have to mean anything to you but it clearly means something to Melo and he wants to try and play.

thats insane.

we (the knicks) have 124 million tied up in this mutha fukka, we should have a say!

If he plays, its a sham.

If he just has a cameo, I can deal with it.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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1/8/2015  1:02 PM
nixluva wrote:
F500ONE wrote:
nixluva wrote:
F500ONE wrote:
misterearl wrote:Melo is being an opportunist to pick the marquee games to make an appearance. Either he is injured or not.

If he is not 100 per cent, what is the point of playing?

misterearl gets it, nixluva flunks again


Almost no player is 100% healthy at this point in the season. Both of you don't know exactly what is wrong with Melo and so it's hard from here to question his right to play thru pain or not. If he's been told that it's not a career threatening issue and that it's up to him whether he wants to play thru the pain then it's up to him. Players in all sports play with swollen joints or have to heavily tape a body part and still play on all the time. No one questions the Football player who plays thru pain or with a cast on, but with Melo we have to jump on him. I can understand the feeling of wanting him to shut it down, but it is his decision.

You can't pick and choose which games you want to play and those you don't

Trying to play in London and during the All-Star is being an


Meloptoutunist no other way you can skate around this

You keep ignoring the main point in all of this. It's his decision. He's free to decide to play thru pain or not. You may not like his reasons for wanting to stick it out but it's really not about you or any other Knick fan. I really think you guys are being deliberately biased here in that you know players do in fact play with pain all the time. Not that one shouldn't use some sense of reason, but in the end Melo wants to play in the All Star game and that's his right to do that. It doesn't have to mean anything to you but it clearly means something to Melo and he wants to try and play.

The only one with an intent to ignore is you

I'm acknowledging he's making his own decisions


He's being selfishly selective in doing so

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1/8/2015  1:09 PM
Being Selfish implies a risk that he will have a career ending injury. Every player is one play away from a career ending injury. This particular issue has not been presented as a risk to his career. It's simply a matter of whether he can take the pain when it flares up. If what he has is in fact a loose body in his knee that isn't career threatening in and of itself. Lot's of players have played with that problem. We don't have his exact diagnosis but given that he's still trying to play it's clear it's not a serious issue. Guys play with bone spurs, Plantar Fasciitis, elbow and shoulder strains etc. There are a myriad of minor injuries that players play thru. It seems this is that kind of issue.
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1/8/2015  1:15 PM
nixluva wrote:Being Selfish implies a risk that he will have a career ending injury. Every player is one play away from a career ending injury. This particular issue has not been presented as a risk to his career. It's simply a matter of whether he can take the pain when it flares up. If what he has is in fact a loose body in his knee that isn't career threatening in and of itself. Lot's of players have played with that problem. We don't have his exact diagnosis but given that he's still trying to play it's clear it's not a serious issue. Guys play with bone spurs, Plantar Fasciitis, elbow and shoulder strains etc. There are a myriad of minor injuries that players play thru. It seems this is that kind of issue.

No it doesn't, it means he wants

To be seen and held in marquee status in the biggest venues


London is global he's trying to be a digital legacy

And playing in some meaningless All-Star game has all to do


Getting the love from the city by being a representative

Although on and off the court he's done nothing meaningful enough to


Prove he's given it his all to those who spend their hard earned money to adore him

As Skip Bayless pointed out, besides he promoted during the off-season


He was in the best shape of his career, his most recent update to his health status

Was "I'm not shutting myself down yet" hence he has a target date to do so


One that caters to the inner selfish athlete he's always displayed himself to be

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1/8/2015  1:29 PM
If he needs surgery he should shut it down for the season, and the Knicks should sit him out to protect their investment.

I could perhaps see him playing if we were approaching the playoffs with 10 games remaining with a chance to get into them, but now we are talking about a team that cannot make the playoffs, WHICH WILL ACTUALLY BE HURT if Melo helps us win a few games and knocks us out of contention for a top three draft pick.

What would Anthony do if this was a contract year for him and an injury might affect a payday? Does anyone think he would risk a larger contract for himself to help the Knicks compete for a 10 win season?

EnySpree: Can we agree to agree not to mention Phil Jackson and triangle for the rest of our lives?
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1/10/2015  3:42 PM
mreinman wrote:
nixluva wrote:
F500ONE wrote:
nixluva wrote:
F500ONE wrote:
misterearl wrote:Melo is being an opportunist to pick the marquee games to make an appearance. Either he is injured or not.

If he is not 100 per cent, what is the point of playing?

misterearl gets it, nixluva flunks again


Almost no player is 100% healthy at this point in the season. Both of you don't know exactly what is wrong with Melo and so it's hard from here to question his right to play thru pain or not. If he's been told that it's not a career threatening issue and that it's up to him whether he wants to play thru the pain then it's up to him. Players in all sports play with swollen joints or have to heavily tape a body part and still play on all the time. No one questions the Football player who plays thru pain or with a cast on, but with Melo we have to jump on him. I can understand the feeling of wanting him to shut it down, but it is his decision.

You can't pick and choose which games you want to play and those you don't

Trying to play in London and during the All-Star is being an


Meloptoutunist no other way you can skate around this

You keep ignoring the main point in all of this. It's his decision. He's free to decide to play thru pain or not. You may not like his reasons for wanting to stick it out but it's really not about you or any other Knick fan. I really think you guys are being deliberately biased here in that you know players do in fact play with pain all the time. Not that one shouldn't use some sense of reason, but in the end Melo wants to play in the All Star game and that's his right to do that. It doesn't have to mean anything to you but it clearly means something to Melo and he wants to try and play.

thats insane.

we (the knicks) have 124 million tied up in this mutha fukka, we should have a say!

If he plays, its a sham.

If he just has a cameo, I can deal with it.

Here's what Phil had to say


I think it's comical a player can project out

1-2mos in advance what games to target to play and have the backing of the team's President


"I think for Melo the last resort is surgery, as it should be for anybody," Jackson said. "Surgery is basically to repair and to correct. He's got a situation that could exacerbate, could get difficult, could be better with the surgery, but he wants to really try it again and see where he's going to be at. The next period of time we'll assess that and we'll sit down and talk to him about it. I know the All-Star Game [at Madison Square Garden] is important for him down the road in February. I know this trip to London [for the Knicks game against the Milwaukee Bucks on Jan. 15] will be important for him to play. He sees possibilities of helping the team get back and be better."


What a mockery

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1/10/2015  3:46 PM
That is bad. I really hope Phil says one thing and then trade his primadonna ***
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1/10/2015  3:56 PM
gunsnewing wrote:That is bad. I really hope Phil says one thing and then trade his primadonna ***

All right here

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/12145815/phil-jackson-takes-responsibilty-new-york-knicks-disastrous-season


End of the article


So he's too hurt to play home games

Can rest during those games so he can play in London and during All-Star


To the extent he'll "HELP THE TEAM BE BETTER" but then

Conveniently shut himself down afterwards when he might need surgery


Did I cover all bases Guns?

Steven A. Smith is my MOFO:)

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