VCoug wrote:

fishmike wrote:

VCoug wrote:

fishmike wrote:C Gasol (max)
PF OK4
SF Melo
SG Jimmy Butler (max)
PG Calderon
bench: THjr, Acy, Wear, Galloway, Thanisis, Cole

Besides the fact that Gasol isn't coming here anyway, we won't have enough cap space to offer both Gasol and Butler max deals.

thats a fact is it? Is Memphis winning a title? Are they a sure thing? Memphis is a nice town, but doesnt sniff NY if your an international player. Also Calderon is his best friend in the league and Im pretty sure we can offer both the max or very close to it. Sure Chi can match but most Butler can make is about $14-$15mm per. Depending on the cap # we are very close.

Yeah, that's a fact. You're asking if Memphis is winning a title, are we winning a title? Gasol's basically grown up in Memphins, he's lived there since he was in HS. Everyone here seems to think we're either going to salary dump Calderon or waive him. I just put up another thread about our cap space this Summer; we don't have enough to offer to max contracts. Not right now at least.

Waiving and stretching Jose will give us an additional 4.5mm next year and 4.8 the following.

BRIGGS wrote:

VCoug wrote:

fishmike wrote:

VCoug wrote:

fishmike wrote:C Gasol (max)
PF OK4
SF Melo
SG Jimmy Butler (max)
PG Calderon
bench: THjr, Acy, Wear, Galloway, Thanisis, Cole

Besides the fact that Gasol isn't coming here anyway, we won't have enough cap space to offer both Gasol and Butler max deals.

thats a fact is it? Is Memphis winning a title? Are they a sure thing? Memphis is a nice town, but doesnt sniff NY if your an international player. Also Calderon is his best friend in the league and Im pretty sure we can offer both the max or very close to it. Sure Chi can match but most Butler can make is about $14-$15mm per. Depending on the cap # we are very close.

Yeah, that's a fact. You're asking if Memphis is winning a title, are we winning a title? Gasol's basically grown up in Memphins, he's lived there since he was in HS. Everyone here seems to think we're either going to salary dump Calderon or waive him. I just put up another thread about our cap space this Summer; we don't have enough to offer to max contracts. Not right now at least.

Waiving and stretching Jose will give us an additional 4.5mm next year and 4.8 the following.

It would, but we'd only have enough cap space to offer max deals to guys coming off their rookie contracts. Still not enough space to offer Gasol and Butler max deals.

EDIT: And again, we can't waive Calderon if we're using him to lure Marc Gasol here can we?

VCoug wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

VCoug wrote:

fishmike wrote:

VCoug wrote:

fishmike wrote:C Gasol (max)
PF OK4
SF Melo
SG Jimmy Butler (max)
PG Calderon
bench: THjr, Acy, Wear, Galloway, Thanisis, Cole

Besides the fact that Gasol isn't coming here anyway, we won't have enough cap space to offer both Gasol and Butler max deals.

thats a fact is it? Is Memphis winning a title? Are they a sure thing? Memphis is a nice town, but doesnt sniff NY if your an international player. Also Calderon is his best friend in the league and Im pretty sure we can offer both the max or very close to it. Sure Chi can match but most Butler can make is about $14-$15mm per. Depending on the cap # we are very close.

Yeah, that's a fact. You're asking if Memphis is winning a title, are we winning a title? Gasol's basically grown up in Memphins, he's lived there since he was in HS. Everyone here seems to think we're either going to salary dump Calderon or waive him. I just put up another thread about our cap space this Summer; we don't have enough to offer to max contracts. Not right now at least.

Waiving and stretching Jose will give us an additional 4.5mm next year and 4.8 the following.

It would, but we'd only have enough cap space to offer max deals to guys coming off their rookie contracts. Still not enough space to offer Gasol and Butler max deals.

EDIT: And again, we can't waive Calderon if we're using him to lure Marc Gasol here can we?

We can waive him at any point. I guess if thats the reasoning to keep him--but the second that falls through--would you rather have Calderon or the 4.5mm in cap space?

Knixkik wrote:

chewy wrote:Tobis Harris will be a Knick.

Caldron
Afflado
Melo
Harris
Lopez

Draft Pick

I agree. I think we overpay to force Orlando's hand, and maybe settle with a sign-and-trade to give them a little in return since he's restricted. He's a NYer and also makes more from his nike contract. He also has great chemistry with Melo from their summer workouts together. I sure Melo will endorse getting him here. I think we get Dragic on a starting salary of 14-15 mil and Harris on a starting salary of 11-12 mil.

Why exactly would we want Harris when we have melo at 22m? And why would Orlando not match any reasonable offer--they are going to be 30mm under the cap.
I hate to say this but free agency isnt going to be easy.

Vmart wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Vmart wrote:Melo
Ok4
Lopez
THJ
Dragic

Calderon
Millsap
Early
Aldrich
Antekoumpo
Galloway

which lopez?

R.

How much money are we paying Lopez, Dragic, and Millsap? We only have about $29M in cap space.

BRIGGS wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

chewy wrote:Tobis Harris will be a Knick.

Caldron
Afflado
Melo
Harris
Lopez

Draft Pick

I agree. I think we overpay to force Orlando's hand, and maybe settle with a sign-and-trade to give them a little in return since he's restricted. He's a NYer and also makes more from his nike contract. He also has great chemistry with Melo from their summer workouts together. I sure Melo will endorse getting him here. I think we get Dragic on a starting salary of 14-15 mil and Harris on a starting salary of 11-12 mil.

Why exactly would we want Harris when we have melo at 22m? And why would Orlando not match any reasonable offer--they are going to be 30mm under the cap.
I hate to say this but free agency isnt going to be easy.

Harris will play the 4. And orlando is cheap and may want to move on with all of the talent they have at the 2, 3, and 4 on rookie contracts. It's not likely, but possible.

fishmike wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

chewy wrote:Tobis Harris will be a Knick.

Caldron
Afflado
Melo
Harris
Lopez

Draft Pick

I agree. I think we overpay to force Orlando's hand, and maybe settle with a sign-and-trade to give them a little in return since he's restricted. He's a NYer and also makes more from his nike contract. He also has great chemistry with Melo from their summer workouts together. I sure Melo will endorse getting him here. I think we get Dragic on a starting salary of 14-15 mil and Harris on a starting salary of 11-12 mil.

Why exactly would we want Harris when we have melo at 22m? And why would Orlando not match any reasonable offer--they are going to be 30mm under the cap.
I hate to say this but free agency isnt going to be easy.

Harris will play the 4. And orlando is cheap and may want to move on with all of the talent they have at the 2, 3, and 4 on rookie contracts. It's not likely, but possible.

Orlando isnt cheap. They have lost players but NEVER because they didnt want to pay.

They didn't want to pay him this summer. Harris should play the 3 and Melo the 4 though. Either way I guess they would both switch positions defensive/offensively.

As much as I like Tobias I am not sure the knicks would go after him because they publicly insist on playing Melo at the 3.

Vmart wrote:

mreinman wrote:

VCoug wrote:

Vmart wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Vmart wrote:Melo
Ok4
Lopez
THJ
Dragic

Calderon
Millsap
Early
Aldrich
Antekoumpo
Galloway

which lopez?

R.

How much money are we paying Lopez, Dragic, and Millsap? We only have about $29M in cap space.

10 per

I think Dragic will command around 12 million. Lopez at 7-8 million and Millsap at 9 million.

pretty close though I would hope that Dragic comes @ 10 million.

Millsap - you are probably right on.

Lopez is tricky ... I think that he can get up to 12 but if I were to guess, I would say 10ish.

VCoug wrote:

Vmart wrote:

mreinman wrote:

VCoug wrote:

Vmart wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Vmart wrote:Melo
Ok4
Lopez
THJ
Dragic

Calderon
Millsap
Early
Aldrich
Antekoumpo
Galloway

which lopez?

R.

How much money are we paying Lopez, Dragic, and Millsap? We only have about $29M in cap space.

10 per

I think Dragic will command around 12 million. Lopez at 7-8 million and Millsap at 9 million.

Why is Lopez leaving a Portland team on pace to win 63 games this year to make $8M for the worst team in the league?

Why is Millsap leaving a team on pace to win 62 games to play for the worst team in the league making the same money he's making now?

Are we the only team in the league that's going to offer Dragic $12M/year? Then why is he coming to the worst team in the league?

Why are we signing a 5 and a 4 when we're probably going to be drafting a 5 or 4 with our lottery pick? And when Melo's best position is the 4?

Portland has to decide who they want to resign (LA, Batum, Mathews (He is who I want), Lopez and Lillard. Don't think they keep them all.

Milsap plays on Atlanta who is very much about the system and Milsap aint young.

Dragic is a bit redundant in phoenix. If we pay him 12, he is here. Don't think that he gets that much, mainly because of his subpar defense.