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NardDogNation
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1/1/2015  2:45 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/1/2015  2:49 PM
F500ONE wrote:He's a Dirtbag[maybe not extreme levels but it's present] like I said and

Isn't currently playing like a Top 5 player

Remember this when the Heat were like 9-8 or 9-9 something like that


Lebron is such a spoiled brat bich when things aren't going his way

Hence him copping to his bad body language, it's like grow up


You're 30yrs old, you know this right

At what point do you admit to yourself that you don't like the NBA? You have this weird hate obsession with most players in the league! While I'm proud that Melo isn't receiving all your attention now TKF, I'm still alarmed by your attitude.

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1/1/2015  2:47 PM
F500ONE wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
F500ONE wrote:
Uptown wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:I've never seen people go to such lengths to disparage a player as much as they do with LeBron. Its way past ridiculous.

Agreed. Most of them are Jordan fans who secretly feel he's a threat to the throne. There are no public records of womanizing, gambling, going to jail, etc. Yet he's called dirt bag because he wants to win and doesnt trust inexperienced coaches. It is ridiculous as you say. Yet, Magic goes behind his coaches back to get him fired and its all good. Bird used to sabotage KC Jones set plays and go against his set plays during timeouts and he's praised for it by teammates during documentaries. Ridiculous indeed.

There has been a couple recent drop about him and the ladies

Not good at all, but nothing way out of the norm


Doesn't have to be those extremes and Lebron is not infallible

This is his time and his era for the good and bad that comes along with what he is

And what was the point of your post? What were you hoping to address? Because it seems the crux of your anti-LeBron rhetoric is that he has a penis and uses it from time to time. That isn't exactly compelling stuff.

Go google the info on your own, it's out there and common knowledge

Not everything is true and not everything is false


Which goes for all info out there on anyone

Lebron is not a saint and we need to get used to it

Dude, who the **** IS a saint? What does LeBron boning some chicks on the side have to do with his character as a person or his abilities as a basketball player?

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1/1/2015  2:48 PM
Uptown wrote:
F500ONE wrote:
Uptown wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:I've never seen people go to such lengths to disparage a player as much as they do with LeBron. Its way past ridiculous.

Agreed. Most of them are Jordan fans who secretly feel he's a threat to the throne. There are no public records of womanizing, gambling, going to jail, etc. Yet he's called dirt bag because he wants to win and doesnt trust inexperienced coaches. It is ridiculous as you say. Yet, Magic goes behind his coaches back to get him fired and its all good. Bird used to sabotage KC Jones set plays and go against his set plays during timeouts and he's praised for it by teammates during documentaries. Ridiculous indeed.

There has been a couple recent drop about him and the ladies

Not good at all, but nothing way out of the norm


Doesn't have to be those extremes and Lebron is not infallible

This is his time and his era for the good and bad that comes along with what he is


You've called him a dirtbag on numerous occassions. Why? Because he doesnt believe in inexperinced coaches? If he is a dirtbag for that then how do you classify Jordan who had done far worse to coaches, gm's teammates, opposing coaches and not to mention all the off the court issues that are well documented?

Jordan and many others before Lebron

Had lots of creep in them, it doesn't absolve Lebron


Trying to dig up great players of the past

Who had issues and there were several


Doesn't mean Lebron doesn't have some dirtbag coach killer in him

And other narcissistic ways about him

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1/1/2015  2:58 PM
Uptown wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:I've never seen people go to such lengths to disparage a player as much as they do with LeBron. Its way past ridiculous.

Agreed. Most of them are Jordan fans who secretly feel he's a threat to the throne. There are no public records of womanizing, gambling, going to jail, etc. Yet he's called dirt bag because he wants to win and doesnt trust inexperienced coaches. It is ridiculous as you say. Yet, Magic goes behind his coaches back to get him fired and its all good. Bird used to sabotage KC Jones set plays and go against his set plays during timeouts and he's praised for it by teammates during documentaries. Ridiculous indeed.

I couldn't have said that better! Even if LeBron had a track record for any of that, why should we give a ****? People's indiscretions are people's indiscretions. Kennedy was ordering White House aids to blow his friends in the White House pool and MLK was making his best effort to **** every attractive woman on the Atlantic coast. Should that change our opinion of the positive role they played in history? Insofar as LeBron, I only care about what he does for 48 minutes a game, 82 games a season.

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1/1/2015  3:03 PM
DJ is throwing out his lebron Bed sheets and pajamas because his first 35 games in Cleveleand is not going great with a rookie coach, Kyrie not a real PG and Love not getting his.

Wilt was awful to play with from what I read, Kareem in his early days was conflicted with his social role on and off the court (different times!) and "forced his way" his way out of Milwaukee. Oscar was a ball hog, Magic, Bird, Jordan, Kobe all are documented dicks. Our very own Ewing as often lambasted for many reasons.

DJ, you were wrong? Dude for the last 10 years has been this generations best with 5 trips to the finals on teams not as complete as iconic Jordan and Kobe were on.

I see Waiters shooting, Kyrie with no conscience and Love looks lost.

35 games? Some of you are a bit quick to judge. Didn't lebron even say it be a long shot to win it this year????

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1/1/2015  3:15 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/1/2015  3:17 PM
NardDogNation wrote:
Uptown wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:I've never seen people go to such lengths to disparage a player as much as they do with LeBron. Its way past ridiculous.

Agreed. Most of them are Jordan fans who secretly feel he's a threat to the throne. There are no public records of womanizing, gambling, going to jail, etc. Yet he's called dirt bag because he wants to win and doesnt trust inexperienced coaches. It is ridiculous as you say. Yet, Magic goes behind his coaches back to get him fired and its all good. Bird used to sabotage KC Jones set plays and go against his set plays during timeouts and he's praised for it by teammates during documentaries. Ridiculous indeed.

I couldn't have said that better! Even if LeBron had a track record for any of that, why should we give a ****? People's indiscretions are people's indiscretions. Kennedy was ordering White House aids to blow his friends in the White House pool and MLK was making his best effort to **** every attractive woman on the Atlantic coast. Should that change our opinion of the positive role they played in history? Insofar as LeBron, I only care about what he does for 48 minutes a game, 82 games a season.

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1/1/2015  3:26 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/1/2015  3:27 PM
NardDogNation wrote:
Uptown wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:I've never seen people go to such lengths to disparage a player as much as they do with LeBron. Its way past ridiculous.

Agreed. Most of them are Jordan fans who secretly feel he's a threat to the throne. There are no public records of womanizing, gambling, going to jail, etc. Yet he's called dirt bag because he wants to win and doesnt trust inexperienced coaches. It is ridiculous as you say. Yet, Magic goes behind his coaches back to get him fired and its all good. Bird used to sabotage KC Jones set plays and go against his set plays during timeouts and he's praised for it by teammates during documentaries. Ridiculous indeed.

I couldn't have said that better! Even if LeBron had a track record for any of that, why should we give a ****? People's indiscretions are people's indiscretions. Kennedy was ordering White House aids to blow his friends in the White House pool and MLK was making his best effort to **** every attractive woman on the Atlantic coast. Should that change our opinion of the positive role they played in history? Insofar as LeBron, I only care about what he does for 48 minutes a game, 82 games a season.


Unfortunately not everyone feels the same

Thus Lebron is subject to criticism as he's been forced


Down the public's throat to paint him as a KING

That's the beautiful thing about life, we're free moral agents to


Make our own choices, so as the saying goes to each his own

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1/1/2015  5:09 PM
F500ONE wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
Uptown wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:I've never seen people go to such lengths to disparage a player as much as they do with LeBron. Its way past ridiculous.

Agreed. Most of them are Jordan fans who secretly feel he's a threat to the throne. There are no public records of womanizing, gambling, going to jail, etc. Yet he's called dirt bag because he wants to win and doesnt trust inexperienced coaches. It is ridiculous as you say. Yet, Magic goes behind his coaches back to get him fired and its all good. Bird used to sabotage KC Jones set plays and go against his set plays during timeouts and he's praised for it by teammates during documentaries. Ridiculous indeed.

I couldn't have said that better! Even if LeBron had a track record for any of that, why should we give a ****? People's indiscretions are people's indiscretions. Kennedy was ordering White House aids to blow his friends in the White House pool and MLK was making his best effort to **** every attractive woman on the Atlantic coast. Should that change our opinion of the positive role they played in history? Insofar as LeBron, I only care about what he does for 48 minutes a game, 82 games a season.


Unfortunately not everyone feels the same

Thus Lebron is subject to criticism as he's been forced


Down the public's throat to paint him as a KING

That's the beautiful thing about life, we're free moral agents to


Make our own choices, so as the saying goes to each his own

Whatever you say man. Its just senseless to try to research reasons to hate a man that you don't even know personally.

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1/1/2015  6:42 PM
F500ONE wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
Uptown wrote:Egomaniac= Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, Magic Johnson, Lebron James, Charles Barkley, Shaquille Oneal, Isiah Thomas etc. There is a reason why Most egomaniacs are multi-champions and or League mvps.

Add Bird to that list


Yeah, it's just that Bird, Jordan and Magic were lucky enough to play during a time when social media was nonexistent. Imagine if every chickenhead Magic was with could post incriminating pics on Instagram or Bird's enstranged daughter could speakout on Twitter? You think JR is bad? Imagine if we constant updates on Charles Barkley and Jayson Williams back in the day?

Conversely if Social media existed back then, they probably

Wouldn't have taken as many chances as they did


Much the same in how people conduct themselves

On the road during times the cops are present and when they aren't


Maybe. It might also cause them to take more chances, especially they suffer from some sort of personaloty disorder. We still see atheletes and celebrities make gaffes all the time.
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1/1/2015  6:47 PM
NardDogNation wrote:
F500ONE wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
F500ONE wrote:
Uptown wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:I've never seen people go to such lengths to disparage a player as much as they do with LeBron. Its way past ridiculous.

Agreed. Most of them are Jordan fans who secretly feel he's a threat to the throne. There are no public records of womanizing, gambling, going to jail, etc. Yet he's called dirt bag because he wants to win and doesnt trust inexperienced coaches. It is ridiculous as you say. Yet, Magic goes behind his coaches back to get him fired and its all good. Bird used to sabotage KC Jones set plays and go against his set plays during timeouts and he's praised for it by teammates during documentaries. Ridiculous indeed.

There has been a couple recent drop about him and the ladies

Not good at all, but nothing way out of the norm


Doesn't have to be those extremes and Lebron is not infallible

This is his time and his era for the good and bad that comes along with what he is

And what was the point of your post? What were you hoping to address? Because it seems the crux of your anti-LeBron rhetoric is that he has a penis and uses it from time to time. That isn't exactly compelling stuff.

Go google the info on your own, it's out there and common knowledge

Not everything is true and not everything is false


Which goes for all info out there on anyone

Lebron is not a saint and we need to get used to it

Dude, who the **** IS a saint? What does LeBron boning some chicks on the side have to do with his character as a person or his abilities as a basketball player?


Ahhhhh... A married guy who has accepted his status as a role model, and likes to portray himself as a good person sure, as heck has his character dented if he is "boning some chicks on the side."

Says nothing about his basketball abilities, but much about his "character."

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1/1/2015  6:49 PM
so glad that Magic was Celibate and that the spurs and mavericks are screwing eachothers wives and that paul george is gay
so here is what phil is thinking ....
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1/1/2015  6:54 PM
mreinman wrote:so glad that Magic was Celibate and that the spurs and mavericks are screwing eachothers wives and that paul george is gay

They all received their fair share of criticism

Justifiably so, Lebron is no different


And no one needs to go on witch hunts

To find this information out, it's right here in our face

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1/1/2015  7:21 PM
F5, name one so called "Saint" that is of the caliber of Lebron, Kobe Jordan etc.
The Future is Bright!
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1/1/2015  7:25 PM
mreinman wrote:so glad that Magic was Celibate and that the spurs and mavericks are screwing eachothers wives and that paul george is gay

Really?

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1/1/2015  7:25 PM
WaltLongmire wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
F500ONE wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
F500ONE wrote:
Uptown wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:I've never seen people go to such lengths to disparage a player as much as they do with LeBron. Its way past ridiculous.

Agreed. Most of them are Jordan fans who secretly feel he's a threat to the throne. There are no public records of womanizing, gambling, going to jail, etc. Yet he's called dirt bag because he wants to win and doesnt trust inexperienced coaches. It is ridiculous as you say. Yet, Magic goes behind his coaches back to get him fired and its all good. Bird used to sabotage KC Jones set plays and go against his set plays during timeouts and he's praised for it by teammates during documentaries. Ridiculous indeed.

There has been a couple recent drop about him and the ladies

Not good at all, but nothing way out of the norm


Doesn't have to be those extremes and Lebron is not infallible

This is his time and his era for the good and bad that comes along with what he is

And what was the point of your post? What were you hoping to address? Because it seems the crux of your anti-LeBron rhetoric is that he has a penis and uses it from time to time. That isn't exactly compelling stuff.

Go google the info on your own, it's out there and common knowledge

Not everything is true and not everything is false


Which goes for all info out there on anyone

Lebron is not a saint and we need to get used to it

Dude, who the **** IS a saint? What does LeBron boning some chicks on the side have to do with his character as a person or his abilities as a basketball player?


Ahhhhh... A married guy who has accepted his status as a role model, and likes to portray himself as a good person sure, as heck has his character dented if he is "boning some chicks on the side."

Says nothing about his basketball abilities, but much about his "character."

who cares about their character? They are all (or mostly) sh1t heads.

Very rare to find Duncans, Grant Hill, and Stockton/Nash types.

Prolly has something to do with them not growing up as crack babies to single dysfunctional parents.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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1/1/2015  7:26 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/1/2015  7:29 PM
WaltLongmire wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
F500ONE wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
F500ONE wrote:
Uptown wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:I've never seen people go to such lengths to disparage a player as much as they do with LeBron. Its way past ridiculous.

Agreed. Most of them are Jordan fans who secretly feel he's a threat to the throne. There are no public records of womanizing, gambling, going to jail, etc. Yet he's called dirt bag because he wants to win and doesnt trust inexperienced coaches. It is ridiculous as you say. Yet, Magic goes behind his coaches back to get him fired and its all good. Bird used to sabotage KC Jones set plays and go against his set plays during timeouts and he's praised for it by teammates during documentaries. Ridiculous indeed.

There has been a couple recent drop about him and the ladies

Not good at all, but nothing way out of the norm


Doesn't have to be those extremes and Lebron is not infallible

This is his time and his era for the good and bad that comes along with what he is

And what was the point of your post? What were you hoping to address? Because it seems the crux of your anti-LeBron rhetoric is that he has a penis and uses it from time to time. That isn't exactly compelling stuff.

Go google the info on your own, it's out there and common knowledge

Not everything is true and not everything is false


Which goes for all info out there on anyone

Lebron is not a saint and we need to get used to it

Dude, who the **** IS a saint? What does LeBron boning some chicks on the side have to do with his character as a person or his abilities as a basketball player?


Ahhhhh... A married guy who has accepted his status as a role model, and likes to portray himself as a good person sure, as heck has his character dented if he is "boning some chicks on the side."

Says nothing about his basketball abilities, but much about his "character."

In all seriousness, how can you sit there and judge LeBron like you're being tempted on his level. Are you really beating off 10s as you roll into work in your '95 Ford Taurus? Lets be real.

I'm not endorsing him cheating but as a dude, especially as one in his prime, I can understand it. The reality is that we're programmed to **** multiple women and getting married doesn't change that. More importantly, it isn't a reflection of character (or a lack thereof). Great men have cheated and you are going to sit there and deny they were men of character? LeBron's no great man but if better couldn't live up to that standard, what do you expect from a guy whose value to society is putting a ball through an iron ring?

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1/1/2015  7:31 PM
NardDogNation wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
F500ONE wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
F500ONE wrote:
Uptown wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:I've never seen people go to such lengths to disparage a player as much as they do with LeBron. Its way past ridiculous.

Agreed. Most of them are Jordan fans who secretly feel he's a threat to the throne. There are no public records of womanizing, gambling, going to jail, etc. Yet he's called dirt bag because he wants to win and doesnt trust inexperienced coaches. It is ridiculous as you say. Yet, Magic goes behind his coaches back to get him fired and its all good. Bird used to sabotage KC Jones set plays and go against his set plays during timeouts and he's praised for it by teammates during documentaries. Ridiculous indeed.

There has been a couple recent drop about him and the ladies

Not good at all, but nothing way out of the norm


Doesn't have to be those extremes and Lebron is not infallible

This is his time and his era for the good and bad that comes along with what he is

And what was the point of your post? What were you hoping to address? Because it seems the crux of your anti-LeBron rhetoric is that he has a penis and uses it from time to time. That isn't exactly compelling stuff.

Go google the info on your own, it's out there and common knowledge

Not everything is true and not everything is false


Which goes for all info out there on anyone

Lebron is not a saint and we need to get used to it

Dude, who the **** IS a saint? What does LeBron boning some chicks on the side have to do with his character as a person or his abilities as a basketball player?


Ahhhhh... A married guy who has accepted his status as a role model, and likes to portray himself as a good person sure, as heck has his character dented if he is "boning some chicks on the side."

Says nothing about his basketball abilities, but much about his "character."

In all seriousness, how can you sit there and judge LeBron like you're being tempted on his level. Are you really beating off 10s as you roll into work in your '95 Ford Taurus? Lets be real.

I'm not endorsing him cheating but as a dude, especially as one in his prime, I can understand it. The reality is that we're programmed to **** multiple women and getting married doesn't change that. More importantly, it isn't a reflection of character (or a lack thereof). Great men have cheated and you are going to sit there and deny they were men of character? LeBron's no great man but if better couldn't live up to that standard, what do you expect from a guy whose value to society is putting a ball through an iron ring?

I see

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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1/1/2015  7:33 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/1/2015  7:34 PM
It is not easy to be the best... in anything.
It takes its tall.
To be the best and keep integrity and humanity is the ability of the few.
It is not about having flaws, everybody have them. It is about how one deals with them.
Lebron is incomplete... only time will tell which legacy he will leave.
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1/1/2015  7:34 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/1/2015  7:35 PM
TPercy wrote:F5, name one so called "Saint" that is of the caliber of Lebron, Kobe Jordan etc.

Maybe if they weren't worshiped to no end

They'd be more "Saint" like


Doesn't matter that Lebron is this generation's Jordan

He's not above criticism///// Book It!


I do appreciate he's acknowledging he's being a D-wad

Hopefully he makes the character adjustments and gets back to being


The exceptional athlete he is

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1/1/2015  7:38 PM
F500ONE wrote:
TPercy wrote:F5, name one so called "Saint" that is of the caliber of Lebron, Kobe Jordan etc.

Maybe if they weren't worshiped to no end

They'd be more "Saint" like


Doesn't matter that Lebron is this generation's Jordan

He's not above criticism///// Book It!


I do appreciate he's acknowledging he's being a D-wad

Hopefully he makes the character adjustments and gets back to being


The exceptional athlete he is

That doesn't answer my question. On your second point, there is no connection between his so called character and his skills, Lebron is Lebron if he is still producing every game then he is and alwas will be the exceptional athlete that he is.

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