knickscity wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

knickscity wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:From the Knicksblog:

The forward ranks fifth in NBA history in minutes played before turning 30 years old.

And has the salary to match. The only reason why folks want melo shut down is because they know he isnt good enough to carry this garbage. The same garbage he endorsed.

Huh?

Do you think teams consult their best players before they make deals? lets talk about one we know he endorsed...JR Smith.

TeamBall wrote:

knickscity wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

knickscity wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:From the Knicksblog:

The forward ranks fifth in NBA history in minutes played before turning 30 years old.

And has the salary to match. The only reason why folks want melo shut down is because they know he isnt good enough to carry this garbage. The same garbage he endorsed.

Huh?

Do you think teams consult their best players before they make deals? lets talk about one we know he endorsed...JR Smith.

Oh I guess I misunderstood. I thought you were saying that he'd endorsed this team we're putting out on the floor right now. To be honest though, I think that Melo is (or at least was) made aware of things we were going to do but I he had that much influence on the trades/deals. I'm sure he suggested we get JR though.

knickscity wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

knickscity wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

knickscity wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:From the Knicksblog:

The forward ranks fifth in NBA history in minutes played before turning 30 years old.

And has the salary to match. The only reason why folks want melo shut down is because they know he isnt good enough to carry this garbage. The same garbage he endorsed.

Huh?

Do you think teams consult their best players before they make deals? lets talk about one we know he endorsed...JR Smith.

Oh I guess I misunderstood. I thought you were saying that he'd endorsed this team we're putting out on the floor right now. To be honest though, I think that Melo is (or at least was) made aware of things we were going to do but I he had that much influence on the trades/deals. I'm sure he suggested we get JR though.

As recall after the team was 3rd in offensive rating he actually stated he wanted some more "scoring" help? Then we trade for bargnani, a scorer under the same agent group. the list really goes on and on.

TeamBall wrote:

dk7th wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

knickscity wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

knickscity wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:From the Knicksblog:

The forward ranks fifth in NBA history in minutes played before turning 30 years old.

And has the salary to match. The only reason why folks want melo shut down is because they know he isnt good enough to carry this garbage. The same garbage he endorsed.

Huh?

Do you think teams consult their best players before they make deals? lets talk about one we know he endorsed...JR Smith.

Oh I guess I misunderstood. I thought you were saying that he'd endorsed this team we're putting out on the floor right now. To be honest though, I think that Melo is (or at least was) made aware of things we were going to do but I he had that much influence on the trades/deals. I'm sure he suggested we get JR though.

he endorsed the team for this season when he signed that ridiculous 124 million dollar contract. honestly you guys infantilize carmelo anthony by denying him any personal agency, responsibility, culpability. nobody forced him to sign here but he did. he was free to take less money but he didn't.

every post like this conveys a subtext of carmelo = innocent victim/patient hero.

really?

No, it doesn't. It's just that, to you, every post that doesn't b*tch and moan about his contract and ego is one that shows him nothing but praise. I've been criticizing him this season but you just seemingly look out for the posts that don't 100% sh** on him (other than F5 and Splat's).

you're full of shyte guy. he signed a contract. that is an agreement, and as an agreement serves as an endorsement of the team that is on the floor this season. never mind the money or the ego. the act of signing = endorsing.

dk7th wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

dk7th wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

knickscity wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

knickscity wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:From the Knicksblog:

The forward ranks fifth in NBA history in minutes played before turning 30 years old.

And has the salary to match. The only reason why folks want melo shut down is because they know he isnt good enough to carry this garbage. The same garbage he endorsed.

Huh?

Do you think teams consult their best players before they make deals? lets talk about one we know he endorsed...JR Smith.

Oh I guess I misunderstood. I thought you were saying that he'd endorsed this team we're putting out on the floor right now. To be honest though, I think that Melo is (or at least was) made aware of things we were going to do but I he had that much influence on the trades/deals. I'm sure he suggested we get JR though.

he endorsed the team for this season when he signed that ridiculous 124 million dollar contract. honestly you guys infantilize carmelo anthony by denying him any personal agency, responsibility, culpability. nobody forced him to sign here but he did. he was free to take less money but he didn't.

every post like this conveys a subtext of carmelo = innocent victim/patient hero.

really?

No, it doesn't. It's just that, to you, every post that doesn't b*tch and moan about his contract and ego is one that shows him nothing but praise. I've been criticizing him this season but you just seemingly look out for the posts that don't 100% sh** on him (other than F5 and Splat's).

you're full of shyte guy. he signed a contract. that is an agreement, and as an agreement serves as an endorsement of the team that is on the floor this season. never mind the money or the ego. the act of signing = endorsing.

CrushAlot wrote:

dk7th wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

dk7th wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

knickscity wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

knickscity wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:From the Knicksblog:

The forward ranks fifth in NBA history in minutes played before turning 30 years old.

And has the salary to match. The only reason why folks want melo shut down is because they know he isnt good enough to carry this garbage. The same garbage he endorsed.

Huh?

Do you think teams consult their best players before they make deals? lets talk about one we know he endorsed...JR Smith.

Oh I guess I misunderstood. I thought you were saying that he'd endorsed this team we're putting out on the floor right now. To be honest though, I think that Melo is (or at least was) made aware of things we were going to do but I he had that much influence on the trades/deals. I'm sure he suggested we get JR though.

he endorsed the team for this season when he signed that ridiculous 124 million dollar contract. honestly you guys infantilize carmelo anthony by denying him any personal agency, responsibility, culpability. nobody forced him to sign here but he did. he was free to take less money but he didn't.

every post like this conveys a subtext of carmelo = innocent victim/patient hero.

really?

No, it doesn't. It's just that, to you, every post that doesn't b*tch and moan about his contract and ego is one that shows him nothing but praise. I've been criticizing him this season but you just seemingly look out for the posts that don't 100% sh** on him (other than F5 and Splat's).

you're full of shyte guy. he signed a contract. that is an agreement, and as an agreement serves as an endorsement of the team that is on the floor this season. never mind the money or the ego. the act of signing = endorsing.

What was reported was that he believed in Phil and the rebuilding plan presented by the man with ll rings. Stay classy

irrelevant, once again. you're good at this. words and deeds... there is a difference in the real world. what melo says has never been very close to his actual deeds, and that is certainly the case here.

it's all nicey-nicey and a feel-good story to say "i believe in phil"

have you seen the way melo has been playing this season. perhaps you should watch the games. he sure isn't playing like he "believes in phil."

words and deeds.

CrushAlot wrote:

dk7th wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

dk7th wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

dk7th wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

knickscity wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

knickscity wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:From the Knicksblog:

The forward ranks fifth in NBA history in minutes played before turning 30 years old.

And has the salary to match. The only reason why folks want melo shut down is because they know he isnt good enough to carry this garbage. The same garbage he endorsed.

Huh?

Do you think teams consult their best players before they make deals? lets talk about one we know he endorsed...JR Smith.

Oh I guess I misunderstood. I thought you were saying that he'd endorsed this team we're putting out on the floor right now. To be honest though, I think that Melo is (or at least was) made aware of things we were going to do but I he had that much influence on the trades/deals. I'm sure he suggested we get JR though.

he endorsed the team for this season when he signed that ridiculous 124 million dollar contract. honestly you guys infantilize carmelo anthony by denying him any personal agency, responsibility, culpability. nobody forced him to sign here but he did. he was free to take less money but he didn't.

every post like this conveys a subtext of carmelo = innocent victim/patient hero.

really?

No, it doesn't. It's just that, to you, every post that doesn't b*tch and moan about his contract and ego is one that shows him nothing but praise. I've been criticizing him this season but you just seemingly look out for the posts that don't 100% sh** on him (other than F5 and Splat's).

you're full of shyte guy. he signed a contract. that is an agreement, and as an agreement serves as an endorsement of the team that is on the floor this season. never mind the money or the ego. the act of signing = endorsing.

What was reported was that he believed in Phil and the rebuilding plan presented by the man with ll rings. Stay classy

irrelevant, once again. you're good at this. words and deeds... there is a difference in the real world. what melo says has never been very close to his actual deeds, and that is certainly the case here.

it's all nicey-nicey and a feel-good story to say "i believe in phil"

have you seen the way melo has been playing this season. perhaps you should watch the games. he sure isn't playing like he "believes in phil."

words and deeds.

I do watch the games. In fact I have never said that I will watch the knicks when they are worth my time. Can you say the same?
Also, if someone's opinion or what is known by the public in regards to Melo doesn't align with yours it doesn't mean it is wrong. In fact I think the majority of the time it is a much more accurate account of things.

sorry but the knicks have barely held any real relevance for a couple of years now. why would i subject myself to watching the games? seems like an empty exercise or a needless habit. if that makes me "not a real fan" then i will have to live with that. meanwhile i regard people who watch the games as having too much time on their hands. when you have too much time on your hands you don't value your time and are likely bored, seeking the irrelevant knicks as a distraction from that boredom.

how glamorous.

you don't like having honest discussions with intelligent people. if you did you would not be constantly practicing misdirection and playing games, both are a poor substitute for manifesting intelligence and insight.

i believe someone smarter than i am said much the same thing to you not too long ago.

CrushAlot wrote:

dk7th wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

dk7th wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

dk7th wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

dk7th wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

knickscity wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

knickscity wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:From the Knicksblog:

The forward ranks fifth in NBA history in minutes played before turning 30 years old.

And has the salary to match. The only reason why folks want melo shut down is because they know he isnt good enough to carry this garbage. The same garbage he endorsed.

Huh?

Do you think teams consult their best players before they make deals? lets talk about one we know he endorsed...JR Smith.

Oh I guess I misunderstood. I thought you were saying that he'd endorsed this team we're putting out on the floor right now. To be honest though, I think that Melo is (or at least was) made aware of things we were going to do but I he had that much influence on the trades/deals. I'm sure he suggested we get JR though.

he endorsed the team for this season when he signed that ridiculous 124 million dollar contract. honestly you guys infantilize carmelo anthony by denying him any personal agency, responsibility, culpability. nobody forced him to sign here but he did. he was free to take less money but he didn't.

every post like this conveys a subtext of carmelo = innocent victim/patient hero.

really?

No, it doesn't. It's just that, to you, every post that doesn't b*tch and moan about his contract and ego is one that shows him nothing but praise. I've been criticizing him this season but you just seemingly look out for the posts that don't 100% sh** on him (other than F5 and Splat's).

you're full of shyte guy. he signed a contract. that is an agreement, and as an agreement serves as an endorsement of the team that is on the floor this season. never mind the money or the ego. the act of signing = endorsing.

What was reported was that he believed in Phil and the rebuilding plan presented by the man with ll rings. Stay classy

irrelevant, once again. you're good at this. words and deeds... there is a difference in the real world. what melo says has never been very close to his actual deeds, and that is certainly the case here.

it's all nicey-nicey and a feel-good story to say "i believe in phil"

have you seen the way melo has been playing this season. perhaps you should watch the games. he sure isn't playing like he "believes in phil."

words and deeds.

I do watch the games. In fact I have never said that I will watch the knicks when they are worth my time. Can you say the same?
Also, if someone's opinion or what is known by the public in regards to Melo doesn't align with yours it doesn't mean it is wrong. In fact I think the majority of the time it is a much more accurate account of things.

sorry but the knicks have barely held any real relevance for a couple of years now. why would i subject myself to watching the games? seems like an empty exercise or a needless habit. if that makes me "not a real fan" then i will have to live with that. meanwhile i regard people who watch the games as having too much time on their hands. when you have too much time on your hands you don't value your time and are likely bored, seeking the irrelevant knicks as a distraction from that boredom.

how glamorous.

you don't like having honest discussions with intelligent people. if you did you would not be constantly practicing misdirection and playing games, both are a poor substitute for manifesting intelligence and insight.

i believe someone smarter than i am said much the same thing to you not too long ago.

So you don't watch games and you come on a site for the team you don't watch and say that fans that watch games have too much time on their hands and are bored. You are very good at making very inaccurate assumptions.

why don't you search the game threads to find out if i don't watch the games?

you don't like having honest discussions and misdirection is not a substitute for intelligence.

You can toss anything I've said about his POV, his motivation, his desire for money, his vanity, basically anything related to his behavior in the press and off the court and you still end up with my rock solid conviction that Melo is a BS ball player.

You can just stick to what he does on the court and I can rest my case on what a waste of space this guy is.

At least many of the fans here have woken up and finally recognize what an empty stat padding fraud Melo is.

So if you're going to mention me, keep it simple. You can just say I think Melo is detrimental to this franchise and it is in the Knick's best interests to dump him if they can and embark on a full rebuild. Four more years of Melo would better be used for a full rebuild. A lot can be done in four years or nothing at all.

I'm only watching games on occasion now for hoots and hollers and to joke with guys on the game thread. But I could really give a crap any longer about Melo the person. He's boring.

Splat wrote:If you're going to invoke my name, then let's be straight about it. I don't live to bash Melo. However, I do feel the guy is a loser and a massive impediment to building a fundamentally sound roster and a successful long-term winning culture.

You can toss anything I've said about his POV, his motivation, his desire for money, his vanity, basically anything related to his behavior in the press and off the court and you still end up with my rock solid conviction that Melo is a BS ball player.

You can just stick to what he does on the court and I can rest my case on what a waste of space this guy is.

At least many of the fans here have woken up and finally recognize what an empty stat padding fraud Melo is.

So if you're going to mention me, keep it simple. You can just say I think Melo is detrimental to this franchise and it is in the Knick's best interests to dump him if they can and embark on a full rebuild. Four more years of Melo would better be used for a full rebuild. A lot can be done in four years or nothing at all.

I'm only watching games on occasion now for hoots and hollers and to joke with guys on the game thread. But I could really give a crap any longer about Melo the person. He's boring.

All of the convictions, synopsis, abridgements, summaries, conclusion of the matters

Held true while he was in Denver

It's not like we asserted these beliefs on to him here in New York

Only for the results to be proven true and thus a cult mob of fans

Having torches of fire lit, swinging chained ball spikes,

Wielding excalibur swords and canon ball projectiles

Mid-Evil style to tear down these Rampart Walls of Truth

It's like they're blaming us because Melo is such a Make Believe Hero

knickscity wrote:My thoughts exactly, although I dont miss games, I may fall asleep during parts of them because they are boring. but thats why i dvr them, to catch those missed parts later.

I watch the games for 3 reasons

- I Love Basketball

- I want to have all intel on hand for future discussion

And last but not least

- To Prosecute the Miseducation of Melo Hill