Another very good fit for next year from the DL -- 6'9" 230+ PF JaMychal Green. This guy has really evolved into a very nice player. Currently averaging something close to 22 & 11--he does it all out there. He looks long as hell to me, he's quick up the floor/quick off the dribble, has a nice little post-up game, he features a real reliable jump-shot from anywhere in the mid-range, he bodies up inside, plays physical and is always around the rim. Very good nose for the ball...Looks very polished to me overall. Reminds me of a young David West/Antonio McDyess--I think he could be that good and if not, maybe a tick below that level which is still very good. No question JaMychal Green is good enough to play in the NBA (compare him to a DeMarre Carroll on Atlanta's roster for example -- not the best comparison as Carroll's more of a hybrid 3/4 but overall, Green's a better player than Carroll imo). He almost made the Spurs outta training camp. They really wanted to keep him but had no room. James McAdoo's another young athletic PF in the DL I find intriguing but I feel Green's more polished and the better player overall. As of right now, in addition to our own Westchester prospects and Seth Curry, Williams & Green are probably my two favorite players to watch in the entire NBDL:

Here's hoping we hit the mark in the draft with something BIG in the top 3, get one or two major impact players either in FA or via trade over the next couple of years and then add some real good "value talent" to round out the roster -- a value big like a Lavoy Allen for instance; Donald Sloan/Chris Copeland; guys like E'Twaun Moore/Cameron Bairstow if Chicago renounces either of them for cap room; maybe a guy like Lou Williams; Lance Thomas; New Orleans has quite a few value guys that could work for us here: Alexis Ajinca/Jeff Whithey/Luke Babbitt/Dante Cunningham; Justin Hamilton/Hassan Whiteside; Kalin Lucas/Nick Calathes; Kosta Koufos; maybe we look at reacquiring Wayne Ellington; Josh Smith; Draymond Green; Greg Smith; some of the domestic talent playing abroad that we targeted in the DL expansion draft (Craig Brackins, Rich Howell, Curtis Jerrells, DaJuan Summers); guys like Elliot Williams/JaMychal Green/James McAdoo/Quincy Miller/Seth Curry from the NBDL, etc... Add a player or two from each of these categories to some of the better talent we may have left over from this year's team (Early, THJ, maybe we retain Cole Aldrich, etc.) and a few callups from our own Westchester squad (Thanasis, Langston Galloway?), hopefully it all comes together eventually around Melo. Remaining hopeful..

Finestrg wrote:There's a lot of good 2Gs in the NBDL right now. I like Wes Matthews -- I wanted Matthews when he went undrafted a few years ago, but don't know if it'd be wise to sink a lot of money into this guy now given our situation. This guy's probably gonna want and get $10-12mm a season over several years, maybe more. I think we're better off targeting more higher end talent for that type of money or more. No doubt our SG position is in need of a facelift though. How about taking a good hard look at a guy like Elliot Williams instead? He appears to finally be over the knee and achilles issues that plagued him in the past. Dude's a real solid overall SG -- he scores it well in a variety of ways (over 21 ppg in the DL logging over 36 mins per, over 47% FGs, over 37% from 3, he defends and he just might be one of the better passing 2Gs around averaging over 7 assist per game--his playmaking is really what separates him from the other top DL 2Gs like Manny Harris or Kevin Murphy imo). Williams has really been ballin' this year. Looks real spry out on the court now -- glad to see his injuries are finally behind him...Instead of using up valuable cap space on a Wes Matthews, how about looking for some cheaper/comparable talent? I think Williams, now that he's finally healthy, very well might be just as good a player as Matthews, maybe better, and certainly better than anything we currently feature at the position -- Shumpert, JR Smith or Hardaway.

Another very good fit for next year from the DL -- 6'9" 230+ PF JaMychal Green. This guy has really evolved into a very nice player. Currently averaging something close to 22 & 11--he does it all out there. He looks long as hell to me, he's quick up the floor/quick off the dribble, has a nice little post-up game, he features a real reliable jump-shot from anywhere in the mid-range, he bodies up inside, plays physical and is always around the rim. Very good nose for the ball...Looks very polished to me overall. Reminds me of a young David West/Antonio McDyess--I think he could be that good and if not, maybe a tick below that level which is still very good. No question JaMychal Green is good enough to play in the NBA (compare him to a DeMarre Carroll on Atlanta's roster for example -- not the best comparison as Carroll's more of a hybrid 3/4 but overall, Green's a better player than Carroll imo). He almost made the Spurs outta training camp. They really wanted to keep him but had no room. James McAdoo's another young athletic PF in the DL I find intriguing but I feel Green's more polished and the better player overall. As of right now, in addition to our own Westchester prospects and Seth Curry, Williams & Green are probably my two favorite players to watch in the entire NBDL:

Here's hoping we hit the mark in the draft with something BIG in the top 3, get one or two major impact players either in FA or via trade over the next couple of years and then add some real good "value talent" to round out the roster -- a value big like a Lavoy Allen for instance; Donald Sloan/Chris Copeland; guys like E'Twaun Moore/Cameron Bairstow if Chicago renounces either of them for cap room; maybe a guy like Lou Williams; Lance Thomas; New Orleans has quite a few value guys that could work for us here: Alexis Ajinca/Jeff Whithey/Luke Babbitt/Dante Cunningham; Justin Hamilton/Hassan Whiteside; Kalin Lucas/Nick Calathes; Kosta Koufos; maybe we look at reacquiring Wayne Ellington; Josh Smith; Draymond Green; Greg Smith; some of the domestic talent playing abroad that we targeted in the DL expansion draft (Craig Brackins, Rich Howell, Curtis Jerrells, DaJuan Summers); guys like Elliot Williams/JaMychal Green/James McAdoo/Quincy Miller/Seth Curry from the NBDL, etc... Add a player or two from each of these categories to some of the better talent we may have left over from this year's team (Early, THJ, maybe we retain Cole Aldrich, etc.) and a few callups from our own Westchester squad (Thanasis, Langston Galloway?), hopefully it all comes together eventually around Melo. Remaining hopeful..

TPercy wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:Why Dragic when we can draft a younger more athletic version?

With what pick are we going to do that with exactly? We are using our 2015 pick to draft a big which we desperately need.

We need to trade that pick for a couple of first rounders. Given our needs, that will certainly be the wiser thing to do. With the two picks, we can select a center and a big PG

Matthews, dragic, Melo, Okafor and then signing a legit 4 for cheap would be a good off season. It's different than anything we've talked about so far.

Knicks1969 wrote:

TPercy wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:Why Dragic when we can draft a younger more athletic version?

With what pick are we going to do that with exactly? We are using our 2015 pick to draft a big which we desperately need.

We need to trade that pick for a couple of first rounders. Given our needs, that will certainly be the wiser thing to do. With the two picks, we can select a center and a big PG

It's not wiser to gamble on taking 2 picks later in the draft when there is a very much higher chance they will be busts. If we are lucky to get a top pick we need to take the most sure fire prospect out there. We simply HAVE to. Without that top pick panning out, the next 4 or 5 years are probably not going to be so fun (starting in 2016 where if we are lotto bound again we will be handing it over to Toronto via Denver).

Knixkik wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Knixkik wrote:These are the types of 2-way, shot makers we need.

2 way?

Yes, both Dragic and Matthews are pretty good defenders and their scoring numbers speak for themselves.

I don't think that Dragic is known as a good defender.

Mathews is a good defender.

H1AND1 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

EnySpree wrote:Mathews has hip problems. He was out most of last season. Just saying.

Matthews, dragic, Melo, Okafor and then signing a legit 4 for cheap would be a good off season. It's different than anything we've talked about so far.

Mathews played 82 games last year.

He's played 6 seasons. 3 of them he's played 82 games. The other three he's played 66, 69, and 62 games. Doesn't seem like these hip problems are bothering him that much. So I googled "Wesley Matthews hip injury" and all I'm finding is some stuff about a flexor strain. Hardly something I'd worry too much about if I were signing the guy as a FA.

Matthews seems like exactly the type of non-flashy player that slips under the radar and that smart teams lock up.

yup ... would be my top priority of gettables

mreinman wrote:

EnySpree wrote:Mathews has hip problems. He was out most of last season. Just saying.

Matthews, dragic, Melo, Okafor and then signing a legit 4 for cheap would be a good off season. It's different than anything we've talked about so far.

Mathews played 82 games last year.

I meant the two years before last. Anyway i was just saying he has a injury history that's worth noting. I did say that it would be good of could sign him.