holfresh wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

holfresh wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

holfresh wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

holfresh wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

holfresh wrote:We lost 4 of those 5 games..

Aren't we 5-24 with Max guys and non Max guys

Correct and said max guy has been the main guy on many 50 win teams..

Therefore your ire-dig of 4 of 5 should lie on the guys making Max money

Not a 2nd yr player who just started receiving consistent playing time about a week ago

I'm including Amar'e and if you want Bargnani[for salary sakes] Max guys

To take off the Amber Alert sensitivity on said Max guy{Melo]

Bargs is not playing and isn't a max guy and Amare is hurt, why include them??

How many games did Amar'e play past 5gms

How much money does he make in comparison to THJR

As to Bargs, I said for salary purposes

And the fact he makes $12-13mil/yr and has missed every game practically

Due to conditioning issues is criminal

Bro, you are all over the place with this..

No I'm not you clearly understand what you did

Pinning-Highlighting 4 of 5 losses on THJR

Instead of the money makers is idiotic on your part

No you are wrong about what I was trying to do..He isn't the reason for the losses...18 pts per game towards a losing situation doesn't mean anything...18 points per towards a winning situation means something..Means u are contribute towards a winning situation...18 pts per on a bad team doesn't mean much...Affalo was lighting it up on the Magic last year...

Okay so Melo and Amare along with everyone else

Who's had good stats here and there this season are EMPTY stats

GOTCHA!

holfresh wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

holfresh wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

holfresh wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

holfresh wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

holfresh wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

holfresh wrote:We lost 4 of those 5 games..

Aren't we 5-24 with Max guys and non Max guys

Correct and said max guy has been the main guy on many 50 win teams..

Therefore your ire-dig of 4 of 5 should lie on the guys making Max money

Not a 2nd yr player who just started receiving consistent playing time about a week ago

I'm including Amar'e and if you want Bargnani[for salary sakes] Max guys

To take off the Amber Alert sensitivity on said Max guy{Melo]

Bargs is not playing and isn't a max guy and Amare is hurt, why include them??

How many games did Amar'e play past 5gms

How much money does he make in comparison to THJR

As to Bargs, I said for salary purposes

And the fact he makes $12-13mil/yr and has missed every game practically

Due to conditioning issues is criminal

Bro, you are all over the place with this..

No I'm not you clearly understand what you did

Pinning-Highlighting 4 of 5 losses on THJR

Instead of the money makers is idiotic on your part

No you are wrong about what I was trying to do..He isn't the reason for the losses...18 pts per game towards a losing situation doesn't mean anything...18 points per towards a winning situation means something..Means u are contribute towards a winning situation...18 pts per on a bad team doesn't mean much...Affalo was lighting it up on the Magic last year...

Okay so Melo and Amare along with everyone else

Who's had good stats here and there this season are EMPTY stats

GOTCHA!

Melo and STAT has carried their teams to conference finals...stop it...

No one cares about their past of many moons ago

The contempt you have towards a 2nd yr player

Who's been treated like crap but showing signs of life

Is astounding and yet apropos

holfresh wrote:Treated like crap??..Since when are players entitled to the star treatment without earning it??...And what do u mean by the content you have toward 2nd yr player?

So Shump and Smith deserved to play

Well ahead of him in minutes based on what

Typo on "content", EDIT: contempt

F500ONE wrote:

holfresh wrote:Treated like crap??..Since when are players entitled to the star treatment without earning it??...And what do u mean by the content you have toward 2nd yr player?

So Shump and Smith deserved to play

Well ahead of him in minutes based on what

Typo on "content", EDIT: contempt

F500ONE wrote:

holfresh wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

holfresh wrote:Treated like crap??..Since when are players entitled to the star treatment without earning it??...And what do u mean by the content you have toward 2nd yr player?

So Shump and Smith deserved to play

Well ahead of him in minutes based on what

They are better overall players..Were u going nuts when in the game thread when TimJR got pulled late in the game by Fisher..Did you see the 3 turnovers in like 5 possessions Tim had trying to force drive in the lane in the late 4th quarter??

J.R. inability to stay within the triangle

And Shump's 12gms stretch of train wreck play this yr

Then all of last yr suggest you're wrong

If THJR plays this way for half, third, or even fourth

Of this season then okay but we need to see a little more

Before final Declarations, we have enough data on Shump

Smith we've been trying to dump, that's the only reason he's playing

holfresh wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

holfresh wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

holfresh wrote:Treated like crap??..Since when are players entitled to the star treatment without earning it??...And what do u mean by the content you have toward 2nd yr player?

So Shump and Smith deserved to play

Well ahead of him in minutes based on what

They are better overall players..Were u going nuts when in the game thread when TimJR got pulled late in the game by Fisher..Did you see the 3 turnovers in like 5 possessions Tim had trying to force drive in the lane in the late 4th quarter??

J.R. inability to stay within the triangle

And Shump's 12gms stretch of train wreck play this yr

Then all of last yr suggest you're wrong

If THJR plays this way for half, third, or even fourth

Of this season then okay but we need to see a little more

Before final Declarations, we have enough data on Shump

Smith we've been trying to dump, that's the only reason he's playing

JR is probably running it best of anyone with his passes...Didn't Phil call him the leader of the guys off the bench including Tim JR just before he got hurt??..But hey, clearly this isn't an objective discussion...

Nope you have a sweet spot for J.R.

If J.R. and THJR are bench leaders in Phil's mind

Well THJR probably should have had a larger role

But Phil giving credit to J.R. is suspect at best

He wants to dump him badly, I understand THJR may not be your cup of tea

When we drafted him I figured he was nothing more than a novelty type player

Although he has parts in his game that suggest he could be better

Than what the surface shows, if not I have no undying attachment to him[move on to the next]

You're the one not being objective

F500ONE wrote:

holfresh wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

holfresh wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

holfresh wrote:Treated like crap??..Since when are players entitled to the star treatment without earning it??...And what do u mean by the content you have toward 2nd yr player?

So Shump and Smith deserved to play

Well ahead of him in minutes based on what

They are better overall players..Were u going nuts when in the game thread when TimJR got pulled late in the game by Fisher..Did you see the 3 turnovers in like 5 possessions Tim had trying to force drive in the lane in the late 4th quarter??

J.R. inability to stay within the triangle

And Shump's 12gms stretch of train wreck play this yr

Then all of last yr suggest you're wrong

If THJR plays this way for half, third, or even fourth

Of this season then okay but we need to see a little more

Before final Declarations, we have enough data on Shump

Smith we've been trying to dump, that's the only reason he's playing

JR is probably running it best of anyone with his passes...Didn't Phil call him the leader of the guys off the bench including Tim JR just before he got hurt??..But hey, clearly this isn't an objective discussion...

Nope you have a sweet spot for J.R.

If J.R. and THJR are bench leaders in Phil's mind

Well THJR probably should have had a larger role

But Phil giving credit to J.R. is suspect at best

He wants to dump him badly, I understand THJR may not be your cup of tea

When we drafted him I figured he was nothing more than a novelty type player

Although he has parts in his game that suggest he could be better

Than what the surface shows, if not I have no undying attachment to him[move on to the next]

You're the one not being objective

So u think Phil Jackson is saying stuff he doesn't really mean???..ok..Tim's problem is that he wasn't driving the ball to the hole early in the year..Why isn't Tim my cup of tea??..Because I said he had a few turnovers or said JR is better??..OK..JR won six man 2 years ago and helped us to 54 wins..Thats objective..

gunsnewing wrote:JR is certainly better than THJ. The question should be who is fits this team better now and moving forward. Shumpert or JR?

The triangle needs a ball handler to bring up the ball..JR and Shump can do that..Tim can't and wasn't driving to the hole early on, thus limited minutes, don't tell his fans that...But Tim has to keep adding to his game if he is going to be part of the triangle..Tim and Amare aren't participants the triangle most times...But if I say that, don't think I hate Tim, I like him..