knicks1248 wrote:Amare is a beast offensively giving the touches, Tyson is not a beast defensively and definitely not offensively. tyson is a solid player, but he can't guard no one 1 on 1 either, lets not forget slow ass hibert schooled his ass in the playoffs.

Tyson is a solid help defender, if he's playing with other solid defenders, but lets not get it twisted.

Amare has step up his defense this yr, 5 blocks one game, 5 steals the next, But the haters won't reconize it, they won't reconize that our overall defensive philosophy (let everybody shoot 3's just guard the paint)is so 90's. You remember the 90's when they were maybe 1 or 2 good 3 point shooters on a team, not 5 or 6 like it is in todays game.

Besides, if your not a stretch 4 your worthless on most teams

Yeah give Amar'e credit for locking up Chandler not

Allowing him to duplicate this performance

DATE	    OPP	    SCORE       MIN    FGM-FGA	 FG%	3PM-3PA	 3P%	FTM-FTA	 FT%	REB	AST	BLK	STL	PF	TO      PTS
Wed 11/26  vs NY   W 109-102    43	7-12	.583	0-0	.000	 3-5	.600	25	1	2	1	3	2	17

F500ONE wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:Amare is a beast offensively giving the touches, Tyson is not a beast defensively and definitely not offensively. tyson is a solid player, but he can't guard no one 1 on 1 either, lets not forget slow ass hibert schooled his ass in the playoffs.

Tyson is a solid help defender, if he's playing with other solid defenders, but lets not get it twisted.

Amare has step up his defense this yr, 5 blocks one game, 5 steals the next, But the haters won't reconize it, they won't reconize that our overall defensive philosophy (let everybody shoot 3's just guard the paint)is so 90's. You remember the 90's when they were maybe 1 or 2 good 3 point shooters on a team, not 5 or 6 like it is in todays game.

Besides, if your not a stretch 4 your worthless on most teams

Yeah give Amar'e credit for locking up Chandler not

Allowing him to duplicate this performance

DATE	   OPP	   SCORE        MIN    FGM-FGA	 FG%	3PM-3PA	 3P%	FTM-FTA	 FT%	REB	AST	BLK	STL	PF	TO      PTS
Wed 11/26        vs NY    W 109-102	43	7-12	.583	0-0	.000	 3-5	.600	25	1	2	1	3	2	17

Bonn1997 wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:Amare is a beast offensively giving the touches, Tyson is not a beast defensively and definitely not offensively. tyson is a solid player, but he can't guard no one 1 on 1 either, lets not forget slow ass hibert schooled his ass in the playoffs.

Tyson is a solid help defender, if he's playing with other solid defenders, but lets not get it twisted.

Amare has step up his defense this yr, 5 blocks one game, 5 steals the next, But the haters won't reconize it, they won't reconize that our overall defensive philosophy (let everybody shoot 3's just guard the paint)is so 90's. You remember the 90's when they were maybe 1 or 2 good 3 point shooters on a team, not 5 or 6 like it is in todays game.

Besides, if your not a stretch 4 your worthless on most teams

Yeah give Amar'e credit for locking up Chandler not

Allowing him to duplicate this performance

DATE	   OPP	   SCORE        MIN    FGM-FGA	 FG%	3PM-3PA	 3P%	FTM-FTA	 FT%	REB	AST	BLK	STL	PF	TO      PTS
Wed 11/26        vs NY    W 109-102	43	7-12	.583	0-0	.000	 3-5	.600	25	1	2	1	3	2	17

Yeah, Tyson averaged 13 points and 20 rbs a game against the Knicks this year. You'd think Amare would have a little humility.

so ironic ...

you can't make that sh1t up.

mreinman wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:Amare is a beast offensively giving the touches, Tyson is not a beast defensively and definitely not offensively. tyson is a solid player, but he can't guard no one 1 on 1 either, lets not forget slow ass hibert schooled his ass in the playoffs.

Tyson is a solid help defender, if he's playing with other solid defenders, but lets not get it twisted.

Amare has step up his defense this yr, 5 blocks one game, 5 steals the next, But the haters won't reconize it, they won't reconize that our overall defensive philosophy (let everybody shoot 3's just guard the paint)is so 90's. You remember the 90's when they were maybe 1 or 2 good 3 point shooters on a team, not 5 or 6 like it is in todays game.

Besides, if your not a stretch 4 your worthless on most teams

Yeah give Amar'e credit for locking up Chandler not

Allowing him to duplicate this performance

DATE	   OPP	   SCORE        MIN    FGM-FGA	 FG%	3PM-3PA	 3P%	FTM-FTA	 FT%	REB	AST	BLK	STL	PF	TO      PTS
Wed 11/26        vs NY    W 109-102	43	7-12	.583	0-0	.000	 3-5	.600	25	1	2	1	3	2	17

Yeah, Tyson averaged 13 points and 20 rbs a game against the Knicks this year. You'd think Amare would have a little humility.

so ironic ...

you can't make that sh1t up.

BRIGGS wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:Amare is a beast offensively giving the touches, Tyson is not a beast defensively and definitely not offensively. tyson is a solid player, but he can't guard no one 1 on 1 either, lets not forget slow ass hibert schooled his ass in the playoffs.

Tyson is a solid help defender, if he's playing with other solid defenders, but lets not get it twisted.

Amare has step up his defense this yr, 5 blocks one game, 5 steals the next, But the haters won't reconize it, they won't reconize that our overall defensive philosophy (let everybody shoot 3's just guard the paint)is so 90's. You remember the 90's when they were maybe 1 or 2 good 3 point shooters on a team, not 5 or 6 like it is in todays game.

Besides, if your not a stretch 4 your worthless on most teams

Yeah give Amar'e credit for locking up Chandler not

Allowing him to duplicate this performance

DATE	   OPP	   SCORE        MIN    FGM-FGA	 FG%	3PM-3PA	 3P%	FTM-FTA	 FT%	REB	AST	BLK	STL	PF	TO      PTS
Wed 11/26        vs NY    W 109-102	43	7-12	.583	0-0	.000	 3-5	.600	25	1	2	1	3	2	17

Yeah, Tyson averaged 13 points and 20 rbs a game against the Knicks this year. You'd think Amare would have a little humility.

so ironic ...

you can't make that sh1t up.

In what sense? If you're talking about Tyson, at least he has real achievements to fall back on. Tyson's also never talked trash about a player who outplayed him as far as I'm aware. So I don't see any parallel here, though I recognize your effort.

Oh Jees man Amare was once first team all NBA 7 times an all star had season Tysons could only dream about. That is not close

BRIGGS wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:Amare is a beast offensively giving the touches, Tyson is not a beast defensively and definitely not offensively. tyson is a solid player, but he can't guard no one 1 on 1 either, lets not forget slow ass hibert schooled his ass in the playoffs.

Tyson is a solid help defender, if he's playing with other solid defenders, but lets not get it twisted.

Amare has step up his defense this yr, 5 blocks one game, 5 steals the next, But the haters won't reconize it, they won't reconize that our overall defensive philosophy (let everybody shoot 3's just guard the paint)is so 90's. You remember the 90's when they were maybe 1 or 2 good 3 point shooters on a team, not 5 or 6 like it is in todays game.

Besides, if your not a stretch 4 your worthless on most teams

Yeah give Amar'e credit for locking up Chandler not

Allowing him to duplicate this performance

DATE	   OPP	   SCORE        MIN    FGM-FGA	 FG%	3PM-3PA	 3P%	FTM-FTA	 FT%	REB	AST	BLK	STL	PF	TO      PTS
Wed 11/26        vs NY    W 109-102	43	7-12	.583	0-0	.000	 3-5	.600	25	1	2	1	3	2	17

Yeah, Tyson averaged 13 points and 20 rbs a game against the Knicks this year. You'd think Amare would have a little humility.

so ironic ...

you can't make that sh1t up.

In what sense? If you're talking about Tyson, at least he has real achievements to fall back on. Tyson's also never talked trash about a player who outplayed him as far as I'm aware. So I don't see any parallel here, though I recognize your effort.

Oh Jees man Amare was once first team all NBA 7 times an all star had season Tysons could only dream about. That is not close

All-star appearances? That doesn't come to mind when I think of ultimate basketball achievements. I think a DPOY, a ring, and an Olympic gold medal are more impressive.
What would make you happier? If you learned the guy we draft with our lotto pick will make a bunch of all-star appearances or that he'll play a key role in bring a ring here?

Hey Mario Chalmers has two rings--right time right place. Being elected to first team all NBA is only second to MVP. I think people ten to forget just how good Amare was. Even his first year here your talking 25+ points 9 rebounds 3 assists 2 blocks--those are NBA MVP numbers.

Bonn1997 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:Amare is a beast offensively giving the touches, Tyson is not a beast defensively and definitely not offensively. tyson is a solid player, but he can't guard no one 1 on 1 either, lets not forget slow ass hibert schooled his ass in the playoffs.

Tyson is a solid help defender, if he's playing with other solid defenders, but lets not get it twisted.

Amare has step up his defense this yr, 5 blocks one game, 5 steals the next, But the haters won't reconize it, they won't reconize that our overall defensive philosophy (let everybody shoot 3's just guard the paint)is so 90's. You remember the 90's when they were maybe 1 or 2 good 3 point shooters on a team, not 5 or 6 like it is in todays game.

Besides, if your not a stretch 4 your worthless on most teams

Yeah give Amar'e credit for locking up Chandler not

Allowing him to duplicate this performance

DATE	   OPP	   SCORE        MIN    FGM-FGA	 FG%	3PM-3PA	 3P%	FTM-FTA	 FT%	REB	AST	BLK	STL	PF	TO      PTS
Wed 11/26        vs NY    W 109-102	43	7-12	.583	0-0	.000	 3-5	.600	25	1	2	1	3	2	17

Yeah, Tyson averaged 13 points and 20 rbs a game against the Knicks this year. You'd think Amare would have a little humility.

so ironic ...

you can't make that sh1t up.

In what sense? If you're talking about Tyson, at least he has real achievements to fall back on. Tyson's also never talked trash about a player who outplayed him as far as I'm aware. So I don't see any parallel here, though I recognize your effort.

Oh Jees man Amare was once first team all NBA 7 times an all star had season Tysons could only dream about. That is not close

All-star appearances? That doesn't come to mind when I think of ultimate basketball achievements. I think a DPOY, a ring, and an Olympic gold medal are more impressive.
What would make you happier? If you learned the guy we draft with our lotto pick will make a bunch of all-star appearances or that he'll play a key role in bring a ring here?

Hey Mario Chalmers has two rings--right time right place. Being elected to first team all NBA is only second to MVP. I think people ten to forget just how good Amare was. Even his first year here your talking 25+ points 9 rebounds 3 assists 2 blocks--those are NBA MVP numbers.

Right, that's why rings were not the only thing I cited. Amare has never helped his team as much as Tyson did in their championship run, and I've never seen a team fall apart when Amare left or was out like we're seeing. If you salivate over PPG (and really nothing else you cited is impressive), you should add lots of Amares and Melos, though.

tyson is benefiting from the system he's in, he's a PnR big man, who swats rebounds. The only reason he won (the most debated)DPOY with the knicks, was simple because the knicks(under MDA) happen to be the worst defensive team in the league , and he made us respectable.

Those olympic gold medals don't mean sht to me, your playing with 14 of the best players in the world, and being coach by the absolute best in the business, so thats not all that impressive.

I don't see cuban even utter one single word about extended tyson, not one. He took tyson for a one yr rental and gets cap space, and a 4 million ray felton..thats pocket change for him.

BRIGGS wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:Amare is a beast offensively giving the touches, Tyson is not a beast defensively and definitely not offensively. tyson is a solid player, but he can't guard no one 1 on 1 either, lets not forget slow ass hibert schooled his ass in the playoffs.

Tyson is a solid help defender, if he's playing with other solid defenders, but lets not get it twisted.

Amare has step up his defense this yr, 5 blocks one game, 5 steals the next, But the haters won't reconize it, they won't reconize that our overall defensive philosophy (let everybody shoot 3's just guard the paint)is so 90's. You remember the 90's when they were maybe 1 or 2 good 3 point shooters on a team, not 5 or 6 like it is in todays game.

Besides, if your not a stretch 4 your worthless on most teams

Yeah give Amar'e credit for locking up Chandler not

Allowing him to duplicate this performance

DATE	   OPP	   SCORE        MIN    FGM-FGA	 FG%	3PM-3PA	 3P%	FTM-FTA	 FT%	REB	AST	BLK	STL	PF	TO      PTS
Wed 11/26        vs NY    W 109-102	43	7-12	.583	0-0	.000	 3-5	.600	25	1	2	1	3	2	17

Yeah, Tyson averaged 13 points and 20 rbs a game against the Knicks this year. You'd think Amare would have a little humility.

so ironic ...

you can't make that sh1t up.

In what sense? If you're talking about Tyson, at least he has real achievements to fall back on. Tyson's also never talked trash about a player who outplayed him as far as I'm aware. So I don't see any parallel here, though I recognize your effort.

Oh Jees man Amare was once first team all NBA 7 times an all star had season Tysons could only dream about. That is not close

LMAO bringing up 2nd and 3rd team and All-Star honors

Instead of DPOY and Championship

Knicks1969 wrote:

MaTT4281 wrote:Putting "He can't guard me" in quotes implies Amar'e actually said those words.

I read this as STAT boasting about himself, not taking shots at Tyson. 3 words came off poorly: "supposed to be". I don't have a high level of expectation for what an athlete blurts out in the post game and definitely not looking for the deeper meaning.

The dude is boasting for his next contract. He is disingenuous for Amare to speak about guarding me 1-1; that just shows that he doesn't believe in team basketball. No wonder why when he is given the ball he never looks to pass it even when he is being guarded by 3 defenders.

Here's another silly hater misconception, the guy has taking more the 11 shots just twice in the pass 20 games.

I agree he needs to know when to pass, but I personally don't want him to just pass for the sake of passing.. Him and melo are the only 2 player taking it to the paint. But it seems like you would prefer to see him pass to shump or jr, or Smith so they can take another low % long jump shot.

He's not a great passer like divac, he's more likely to throw an intercepted ill advise pass(like everybody on the roster) , then the "high IQ" right pass.

knicks1248 wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:Amare is a beast offensively giving the touches, Tyson is not a beast defensively and definitely not offensively. tyson is a solid player, but he can't guard no one 1 on 1 either, lets not forget slow ass hibert schooled his ass in the playoffs.

Tyson is a solid help defender, if he's playing with other solid defenders, but lets not get it twisted.

Amare has step up his defense this yr, 5 blocks one game, 5 steals the next, But the haters won't reconize it, they won't reconize that our overall defensive philosophy (let everybody shoot 3's just guard the paint)is so 90's. You remember the 90's when they were maybe 1 or 2 good 3 point shooters on a team, not 5 or 6 like it is in todays game.

Besides, if your not a stretch 4 your worthless on most teams

Yeah give Amar'e credit for locking up Chandler not

Allowing him to duplicate this performance

DATE	   OPP	   SCORE        MIN    FGM-FGA	 FG%	3PM-3PA	 3P%	FTM-FTA	 FT%	REB	AST	BLK	STL	PF	TO      PTS
Wed 11/26        vs NY    W 109-102	43	7-12	.583	0-0	.000	 3-5	.600	25	1	2	1	3	2	17

Yeah, Tyson averaged 13 points and 20 rbs a game against the Knicks this year. You'd think Amare would have a little humility.

so ironic ...

you can't make that sh1t up.

In what sense? If you're talking about Tyson, at least he has real achievements to fall back on. Tyson's also never talked trash about a player who outplayed him as far as I'm aware. So I don't see any parallel here, though I recognize your effort.

Oh Jees man Amare was once first team all NBA 7 times an all star had season Tysons could only dream about. That is not close

All-star appearances? That doesn't come to mind when I think of ultimate basketball achievements. I think a DPOY, a ring, and an Olympic gold medal are more impressive.
What would make you happier? If you learned the guy we draft with our lotto pick will make a bunch of all-star appearances or that he'll play a key role in bring a ring here?

Hey Mario Chalmers has two rings--right time right place. Being elected to first team all NBA is only second to MVP. I think people ten to forget just how good Amare was. Even his first year here your talking 25+ points 9 rebounds 3 assists 2 blocks--those are NBA MVP numbers.

Right, that's why rings were not the only thing I cited. Amare has never helped his team as much as Tyson did in their championship run, and I've never seen a team fall apart when Amare left or was out like we're seeing. If you salivate over PPG (and really nothing else you cited is impressive), you should add lots of Amares and Melos, though.

tyson is benefiting from the system he's in, he's a PnR big man, who swats rebounds. The only reason he won (the most debated)DPOY with the knicks, was simple because the knicks(under MDA) happen to be the worst defensive team in the league , and he made us respectable.

Those olympic gold medals don't mean sht to me, your playing with 14 of the best players in the world, and being coach by the absolute best in the business, so thats not all that impressive.

I don't see cuban even utter one single word about extended tyson, not one. He took tyson for a one yr rental and gets cap space, and a 4 million ray felton..thats pocket change for him.

And Amar'e didn't benefit from playing in SSOL and with a 2 time MVP

I'm completed baffled fans storming down doors to defend D-Bags and Losers

Any player is going to benefit from playing in a system that fits his skill set, thats a complete no brainer. I couldn't care less if it was amare, grant hill, or santa, when positives out weigh negatives i'm going to lean on the positives like I would want people to do with me.

When people starting turning your positives into negatives, that means they don't like you and nothing you do matters, welcome to Hatersville..

I'm sure each of us have cross paths with people like that..don't be

Until Amar'e turns his negative[play defense] into a positive

He deserves all the hate he gets, he's an absolute delusional imbecile