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Bonn1997
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12/13/2014  5:31 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/13/2014  5:37 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:He's got an expiring contract and playing the best he has in years. It's the perfect time to sell high

He's got a 24mm contract bonn not tradeable unless u don't want free agncy next year. I'm talking about keeping him next year for 4mm


Well I can't imagine any player would want to come here anyway, but you're right we should be reluctant to take on long-term salary. By the Feb trade deadline, I think he'll have about $6 mil left on his contract and we can off-set that partly by including $3 mil cash incentives.
You're right that it will still be hard to make the salaries match, but I'd at least see if any team wants him at that point.
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12/13/2014  6:29 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:He's got an expiring contract and playing the best he has in years. It's the perfect time to sell high

He's got a 24mm contract bonn not tradeable unless u don't want free agncy next year. I'm talking about keeping him next year for 4mm


Well I can't imagine any player would want to come here anyway, but you're right we should be reluctant to take on long-term salary. By the Feb trade deadline, I think he'll have about $6 mil left on his contract and we can off-set that partly by including $3 mil cash incentives.
You're right that it will still be hard to make the salaries match, but I'd at least see if any team wants him at that point.

At that point you aren't getting back anything other than unwanted salary...Sell high doesn't apply to Amare because of his unknown future health status..Just best to let him walk if u don't want him...
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12/13/2014  7:23 PM
holfresh wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:He's got an expiring contract and playing the best he has in years. It's the perfect time to sell high

He's got a 24mm contract bonn not tradeable unless u don't want free agncy next year. I'm talking about keeping him next year for 4mm


Well I can't imagine any player would want to come here anyway, but you're right we should be reluctant to take on long-term salary. By the Feb trade deadline, I think he'll have about $6 mil left on his contract and we can off-set that partly by including $3 mil cash incentives.
You're right that it will still be hard to make the salaries match, but I'd at least see if any team wants him at that point.

At that point you aren't getting back anything other than unwanted salary...Sell high doesn't apply to Amare because of his unknown future health status..Just best to let him walk if u don't want him...

Yeah, in retrospect, I think you guys are right
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12/14/2014  12:19 PM
We won't resign him until all our cap money is spend. we can go over with him is we want.

I think Fish and co. should be given props to getting Amare in a position to succeed. He is getting the spacing and his numbers are good this year!

Don't discount his value in a sign and trade scenario next summer.

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12/14/2014  1:23 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/14/2014  1:24 PM
Would the Raptors do Grevias Vasquez, Landry Fields (expirer), Chuck Hayes(expirer), a $4 million trade exception and our 2nd rounders for Amar'e and Larkin or Prigioni? Should we do it?

Grevias Vasquez is only shooting 39% this year, so maybe the Raptors might be inclined to move him. He's only under contract for one more year after this one at $6 million per, so I think we can live with that. On the flip side, the Raptors could use a scoring 5....or any 5 for that matter to backup Jonas.

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12/14/2014  1:26 PM
In all seriousness, is Amare any better than Brandon Bass when you account for both ends of the floor? With the money we're talking about throwing at Amare, we could easily pick him up or even a Thaddeus Young, who I still think is a superior player. Out with the old, in with the new! I'd like to be compensated for Amare but would be content letting him walk if it meant that he'd no longer be on the team.
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12/14/2014  1:35 PM
NardDogNation wrote:In all seriousness, is Amare any better than Brandon Bass when you account for both ends of the floor? With the money we're talking about throwing at Amare, we could easily pick him up or even a Thaddeus Young, who I still think is a superior player. Out with the old, in with the new! I'd like to be compensated for Amare but would be content letting him walk if it meant that he'd no longer be on the team.

What gives??..You propose every trade possible for every aging overpaid/underachieving player in the NBA then u say no to Amare??
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12/14/2014  1:40 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/14/2014  1:43 PM
holfresh wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:In all seriousness, is Amare any better than Brandon Bass when you account for both ends of the floor? With the money we're talking about throwing at Amare, we could easily pick him up or even a Thaddeus Young, who I still think is a superior player. Out with the old, in with the new! I'd like to be compensated for Amare but would be content letting him walk if it meant that he'd no longer be on the team.

What gives??..You propose every trade possible for every aging overpaid/underachieving player in the NBA then u say no to Amare??

They actually have talent and are not glaring holes on one end of the floor. I still don't understand why people were throwing hissy fits about Kobe and Joe Johnson or Pau Gasol earlier this summer. The former two only have one year left on their contracts, while it should've been pretty obvious that the only thing wrong with Pau Gasol was Mike D'Antoni's hackish system.

I suppose you could also be talking David West, who I've had a mini-man crush on but the guy is also still producing. Not sure how an expirer for him and a Luis Scola could hurt. They are both capable of playing either end of the floor and are far superior team players than Amare.

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12/14/2014  2:09 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/14/2014  2:18 PM
NardDogNation wrote:
holfresh wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:In all seriousness, is Amare any better than Brandon Bass when you account for both ends of the floor? With the money we're talking about throwing at Amare, we could easily pick him up or even a Thaddeus Young, who I still think is a superior player. Out with the old, in with the new! I'd like to be compensated for Amare but would be content letting him walk if it meant that he'd no longer be on the team.

What gives??..You propose every trade possible for every aging overpaid/underachieving player in the NBA then u say no to Amare??

They actually have talent and are not glaring holes on one end of the floor. I still don't understand why people were throwing hissy fits about Kobe and Joe Johnson or Pau Gasol earlier this summer. The former two only have one year left on their contracts, while it should've been pretty obvious that the only thing wrong with Pau Gasol was Mike D'Antoni's hackish system.

I suppose you could also be talking David West, who I've had a mini-man crush on but the guy is also still producing. Not sure how an expirer for him and a Luis Scola could hurt. They are both capable of playing either end of the floor and are far superior team players than Amare.

AK47, McGee, Hibbert

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12/14/2014  2:36 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/14/2014  2:49 PM
holfresh wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
holfresh wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:In all seriousness, is Amare any better than Brandon Bass when you account for both ends of the floor? With the money we're talking about throwing at Amare, we could easily pick him up or even a Thaddeus Young, who I still think is a superior player. Out with the old, in with the new! I'd like to be compensated for Amare but would be content letting him walk if it meant that he'd no longer be on the team.

What gives??..You propose every trade possible for every aging overpaid/underachieving player in the NBA then u say no to Amare??

They actually have talent and are not glaring holes on one end of the floor. I still don't understand why people were throwing hissy fits about Kobe and Joe Johnson or Pau Gasol earlier this summer. The former two only have one year left on their contracts, while it should've been pretty obvious that the only thing wrong with Pau Gasol was Mike D'Antoni's hackish system.

I suppose you could also be talking David West, who I've had a mini-man crush on but the guy is also still producing. Not sure how an expirer for him and a Luis Scola could hurt. They are both capable of playing either end of the floor and are far superior team players than Amare.

AK47, McGee, Hibbert

You give to get in this league.

Yes, I would've taken a flyer on Andrei Kirilenko's expiring contract to acquire TWO of the Nets' second round picks. Those picks should basically be first rounders since the Nets are about to implode.

Yes, I would've taken a 25 year old JaVale McGee if it allowed me to land some combination of Aaron Afflalo, Danilo Gallinari, Timofey Mozgov and/or Wilson Chandler. Why? Because any member of the latter group would immediately be the 2nd or 3rd best player on our current team. That talent return seems reasonable for taking on a contract that only has one year left on it, as collateral (McGee's).

Yes, I would've taken on a 26 year old, former Defensive Player of the Year Candidate and all-star, Roy Hibbert if all it took was an expirer and some frivolous young talent (e.g. Shane Larkin) to make it happen.

What I wouldn't do is re-sign a dude to 12% of my cap and for multiple years who has missed 3 or so seasons of basketball due to injury; not when he is already 32 years old and out of his prime. Why? Because it's obvious that he'll never fulfill his contract and is a liability for the team unless he manages to get a shot off. Anything less is the textbook definition of insanity. I think that I'd like Amare "the person" but I've had my fill of Amare "the ball player".

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12/14/2014  11:35 PM
BRIGGS wrote:This whole triangle thing has been a mess. Are only two consistent players have been melo and amare and they are both good .were going to have a super high pick and 25mm in cap space to add to those guys develop Hardaway or atleast increase his value and let's go into the offseason with a positive attitude it will be much easier sell with amare who is still a premiere offensive nba post and melo who is a top 5 nba scorer. Pat Riley would never trade either you work with what is here

Dude! You are not serious, are you?

Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
Say it again keep amare and melo

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