NardDogNation wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:I think it's a safe bet that Monroe will be a Knick next year. I'm not sure if trading for him now would be a good idea though. He might help us win games, which is the last thing we need to do right now.

Instead of trading for Monroe, I'd be much more interested in seeing what it would take for us to get their pick for this year. I'd even be willing to give them Amare and take back Josh Smith to make it happen. Most people's gut reaction is that "no way this could happen. We're ripping the Pistons off!". You'd be right. But the same people running the Pistons (Stan Van Gundy and Otis Smith) are the same people that thought trading Marcin Gortat and Vince Carter for Jason Richardson and Hedo Turkoglu was a good idea. They'd also be the same people that thought paying Gilbert Arenas $23 million per year for 2 years was a solid move. Let's also not forget the brilliant decision to lock a washed up Chris Duhon and Quentin Richardson for 3 years each. So where there are idiots, there is a potential fleecing!

If Phil does that deal, he will need to be shot

So you'd pass on a top 3 pick because of an icky $14 million/yr contract?

CrushAlot wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:I think it's a safe bet that Monroe will be a Knick next year. I'm not sure if trading for him now would be a good idea though. He might help us win games, which is the last thing we need to do right now.

Instead of trading for Monroe, I'd be much more interested in seeing what it would take for us to get their pick for this year. I'd even be willing to give them Amare and take back Josh Smith to make it happen. Most people's gut reaction is that "no way this could happen. We're ripping the Pistons off!". You'd be right. But the same people running the Pistons (Stan Van Gundy and Otis Smith) are the same people that thought trading Marcin Gortat and Vince Carter for Jason Richardson and Hedo Turkoglu was a good idea. They'd also be the same people that thought paying Gilbert Arenas $23 million per year for 2 years was a solid move. Let's also not forget the brilliant decision to lock a washed up Chris Duhon and Quentin Richardson for 3 years each. So where there are idiots, there is a potential fleecing!

If Phil does that deal, he will need to be shot

So you'd pass on a top 3 pick because of an icky $14 million/yr contract?

Doesn't Monroe want to leave to get away from Smith?

They could keep Monroe. I want the pick to potentially walk away with Emmanuel Mudiay AND Karl Towns/Jahlil Okafor. Dealing with Josh Smith would be worth that.

NardDogNation wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:If we don't trade for Monroe, we will continue to be a horrendous front court for at least the nest three years. For those of you who are hoping for an early pick, please note that our chance at obtaining a top pick is very slim. The bigs in the draft may end up gone way before we get to pick.

He's an unrestricted free agent. Why trade for him, when we can just sign him outright? There is no way he stays in DET and no way someone pays max to get him, so why not wait?

Because we can use the remainder of the year to see if he will fit. Right now, all we know about him is what he is doing in Detroit. It he doesn't fit, at least we can let him walk without committing a lot of money to him

Knicks1969 wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:If we don't trade for Monroe, we will continue to be a horrendous front court for at least the nest three years. For those of you who are hoping for an early pick, please note that our chance at obtaining a top pick is very slim. The bigs in the draft may end up gone way before we get to pick.

He's an unrestricted free agent. Why trade for him, when we can just sign him outright? There is no way he stays in DET and no way someone pays max to get him, so why not wait?

Because we can use the remainder of the year to see if he will fit. Right now, all we know about him is what he is doing in Detroit. It he doesn't fit, at least we can let him walk without committing a lot of money to him

Who will he be fitting with? A majority of our current roster will not be here next season. Plus, he's an upgrade over everything we've got and will help us win games which is the last thing we should be doing right now.

Knicks1969 wrote:
It doesn't matter who we have on the roster, we will be a losing franchise this year and lottery picker due to the genius of our first year coach.

Knixkik wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:If we don't trade for Monroe, we will continue to be a horrendous front court for at least the nest three years. For those of you who are hoping for an early pick, please note that our chance at obtaining a top pick is very slim. The bigs in the draft may end up gone way before we get to pick.

He's an unrestricted free agent. Why trade for him, when we can just sign him outright? There is no way he stays in DET and no way someone pays max to get him, so why not wait?

Because we can use the remainder of the year to see if he will fit. Right now, all we know about him is what he is doing in Detroit. It he doesn't fit, at least we can let him walk without committing a lot of money to him

I can't see us getting him via trade. I do however think we will get him as a free agent. He won't stay in detriot and I think Phil will get on him early and convince him he's the ideal big man for this offense and hit him with the max. Monroe is an allstar caliber big man, he just won't see his potential in Detroit. He would be great in ny.

Yup. I am sure that he will be phenomenal in NY.

Splat wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:If we don't trade for Monroe, we will continue to be a horrendous front court for at least the nest three years. For those of you who are hoping for an early pick, please note that our chance at obtaining a top pick is very slim. The bigs in the draft may end up gone way before we get to pick.

He's an unrestricted free agent. Why trade for him, when we can just sign him outright? There is no way he stays in DET and no way someone pays max to get him, so why not wait?

Because we can use the remainder of the year to see if he will fit. Right now, all we know about him is what he is doing in Detroit. It he doesn't fit, at least we can let him walk without committing a lot of money to him

I can't see us getting him via trade. I do however think we will get him as a free agent. He won't stay in detriot and I think Phil will get on him early and convince him he's the ideal big man for this offense and hit him with the max. Monroe is an allstar caliber big man, he just won't see his potential in Detroit. He would be great in ny.

Yup. I am sure that he will be phenomenal in NY.

Phenomenal as in Amare Phenomenal?

Amare minus the efficiency.

Knicks1969 wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:If we don't trade for Monroe, we will continue to be a horrendous front court for at least the nest three years. For those of you who are hoping for an early pick, please note that our chance at obtaining a top pick is very slim. The bigs in the draft may end up gone way before we get to pick.

He's an unrestricted free agent. Why trade for him, when we can just sign him outright? There is no way he stays in DET and no way someone pays max to get him, so why not wait?

Because we can use the remainder of the year to see if he will fit. Right now, all we know about him is what he is doing in Detroit. It he doesn't fit, at least we can let him walk without committing a lot of money to him

You trade for him and get his bird rights and pre negotiate a contract first.
What do you think Detroit will want in return? Expiring Amare?

What purpose does that achieve for Them?

There might be parameters that dictate he resigns with them, or can do a sign and trade and get back value.
Why would they just dump him?

why would you spend assets other than amare and Bargs to "see if he fits"? Thats kind of an expensive deal!
Because in your eyes its "at least they would be doing something other than not and that makes 1969 all mad"????

Do explain in detail a trade that benefits Detroit?