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12/3/2014  12:17 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/3/2014  12:18 PM
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gunsnewing wrote:The great thing is Philly probably won't take ok4 or Towns

Just gotta finish ahead of Charlotte & Detroit.

it would be great to finish in the top 3

They would probably trade Noel and take Towns who has more offensive high post potential.

Don't forget they still have Joel Embid. I will be pissed if they draft either Towns or Ok4

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12/3/2014  12:19 PM
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nyk4ever wrote:just outta curiosity bro.. why are you leaning towns?

Another thing, Briggs high regard for Towns also validates what I've seen and heard about him. Can't go wrong with he or Ok4. Mudiay I don't care for because I don't see Phil drafting that kind of PG

I think you have to see the whole season before anyone is a lock OTHER than OK4. I think Ok4 is a lock number 1 pick. Darn trouble is that Id like to see Kentuckys big men play 30-35 minutes each a few games. Hope and pray we get pick 1 and then we wont have to do guesswork.

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12/3/2014  12:22 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/3/2014  12:23 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:just outta curiosity bro.. why are you leaning towns?

Another thing, Briggs high regard for Towns also validates what I've seen and heard about him. Can't go wrong with he or Ok4. Mudiay I don't care for because I don't see Phil drafting that kind of PG

I think you have to see the whole season before anyone is a lock OTHER than OK4. I think Ok4 is a lock number 1 pick. Darn trouble is that Id like to see Kentuckys big men play 30-35 minutes each a few games. Hope and pray we get pick 1 and then we wont have to do guesswork.

yea Kentucky has 3 potential blue chip bigs in Towns, Dakari & Stein. You wanna make sure you get the right one. You think Philly takes Ok4/Towns even with Embid & Noel?

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12/3/2014  12:28 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:just outta curiosity bro.. why are you leaning towns?

Another thing, Briggs high regard for Towns also validates what I've seen and heard about him. Can't go wrong with he or Ok4. Mudiay I don't care for because I don't see Phil drafting that kind of PG

I think you have to see the whole season before anyone is a lock OTHER than OK4. I think Ok4 is a lock number 1 pick. Darn trouble is that Id like to see Kentuckys big men play 30-35 minutes each a few games. Hope and pray we get pick 1 and then we wont have to do guesswork.

yea Kentucky has 3 potential blue chip bigs in Towns, Dakari & Stein. You wanna make sure you get the right one. You think Philly takes Ok4/Towns even with Embid & Noel?

If Philly thinks that Okafor or Towns are clearly better than anyone else in the draft I think they would. Noel, like almost everyone in that draft, might not even be good; the comps I remember reading on him coming out were to Theo Ratliff. And Embiid is a huge question mark anyway, especially with his back injury.

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12/3/2014  1:05 PM
VCoug wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:just outta curiosity bro.. why are you leaning towns?

Another thing, Briggs high regard for Towns also validates what I've seen and heard about him. Can't go wrong with he or Ok4. Mudiay I don't care for because I don't see Phil drafting that kind of PG

I think you have to see the whole season before anyone is a lock OTHER than OK4. I think Ok4 is a lock number 1 pick. Darn trouble is that Id like to see Kentuckys big men play 30-35 minutes each a few games. Hope and pray we get pick 1 and then we wont have to do guesswork.

yea Kentucky has 3 potential blue chip bigs in Towns, Dakari & Stein. You wanna make sure you get the right one. You think Philly takes Ok4/Towns even with Embid & Noel?

If Philly thinks that Okafor or Towns are clearly better than anyone else in the draft I think they would. Noel, like almost everyone in that draft, might not even be good; the comps I remember reading on him coming out were to Theo Ratliff. And Embiid is a huge question mark anyway, especially with his back injury.

Philly will take one of them and then trade Noel and MCW for future picks. Their GM is going to continue to delay trying to be good and extend the rebuild to protect his job for as long as possible with no expectations to improve. It's really genious on his part. He has the longest leash in the league for at least the next 3 years, and 5 if he plays it right. He sold the ownership and fans on giving him the ultimate patience aka job security.

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12/3/2014  1:07 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/3/2014  1:08 PM
Knixkik wrote:
VCoug wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:just outta curiosity bro.. why are you leaning towns?

Another thing, Briggs high regard for Towns also validates what I've seen and heard about him. Can't go wrong with he or Ok4. Mudiay I don't care for because I don't see Phil drafting that kind of PG

I think you have to see the whole season before anyone is a lock OTHER than OK4. I think Ok4 is a lock number 1 pick. Darn trouble is that Id like to see Kentuckys big men play 30-35 minutes each a few games. Hope and pray we get pick 1 and then we wont have to do guesswork.

yea Kentucky has 3 potential blue chip bigs in Towns, Dakari & Stein. You wanna make sure you get the right one. You think Philly takes Ok4/Towns even with Embid & Noel?

If Philly thinks that Okafor or Towns are clearly better than anyone else in the draft I think they would. Noel, like almost everyone in that draft, might not even be good; the comps I remember reading on him coming out were to Theo Ratliff. And Embiid is a huge question mark anyway, especially with his back injury.

Philly will take one of them and then trade Noel and MCW for future picks. Their GM is going to continue to delay trying to be good and extend the rebuild to protect his job for as long as possible with no expectations to improve. It's really genious on his part. He has the longest leash in the league for at least the next 3 years, and 5 if he plays it right. He sold the ownership and fans on giving him the ultimate patience aka job security.

Yup. Philly was quietly trying to deal MCW right after he won the ROY. They will take the best available (their opinion, of course) and continue to trade assets for what they perceive is better value whenever and wherever possible.

If the Knicks land a top 3 Id be happy with any of the Ok4, Towns, or Mudiay triumvarate.

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12/3/2014  1:09 PM
Hopefully tanking backfires on Philly
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12/3/2014  1:12 PM
H1AND1 wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
VCoug wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:just outta curiosity bro.. why are you leaning towns?

Another thing, Briggs high regard for Towns also validates what I've seen and heard about him. Can't go wrong with he or Ok4. Mudiay I don't care for because I don't see Phil drafting that kind of PG

I think you have to see the whole season before anyone is a lock OTHER than OK4. I think Ok4 is a lock number 1 pick. Darn trouble is that Id like to see Kentuckys big men play 30-35 minutes each a few games. Hope and pray we get pick 1 and then we wont have to do guesswork.

yea Kentucky has 3 potential blue chip bigs in Towns, Dakari & Stein. You wanna make sure you get the right one. You think Philly takes Ok4/Towns even with Embid & Noel?

If Philly thinks that Okafor or Towns are clearly better than anyone else in the draft I think they would. Noel, like almost everyone in that draft, might not even be good; the comps I remember reading on him coming out were to Theo Ratliff. And Embiid is a huge question mark anyway, especially with his back injury.

Philly will take one of them and then trade Noel and MCW for future picks. Their GM is going to continue to delay trying to be good and extend the rebuild to protect his job for as long as possible with no expectations to improve. It's really genious on his part. He has the longest leash in the league for at least the next 3 years, and 5 if he plays it right. He sold the ownership and fans on giving him the ultimate patience aka job security.

Yup. Philly was quietly trying to deal MCW right after he won the ROY. They will take the best available (their opinion, of course) and continue to trade assets for what they perceive is better value whenever and wherever possible.

If the Knicks land a top 3 Id be happy with any of the Ok4, Towns, or Mudiay triumvarate.

They tried hard to trade him to LA for the 7th pick. I'm sure there were other deals out there too, but that one was close to happening.

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12/3/2014  1:36 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:just outta curiosity bro.. why are you leaning towns?

Another thing, Briggs high regard for Towns also validates what I've seen and heard about him. Can't go wrong with he or Ok4. Mudiay I don't care for because I don't see Phil drafting that kind of PG

i was only asking because i wondered how many times youve seen the guys play. i havent seen ok4 once yet, but i have seen towns. off initial gut feeling.. towns is going to be good but he's going to take a pretty long time to develop, not as quickly as anthony davis. demarcus cousins took a while too. ill see ok4 and see what i think.

I've seen Ok4 being compared to Cousins actually. Cousins came in with a polished offensive game. He is a beast now that he matured. Both have the same build and height too. Like Cousins I'm not sure if he is a C or PF but that shouldn't be an issue since he is so polished offensively. Need to see how he rebounds. Not overly impressed with his rebounding so far but if he improves than people will start comparing him to Duncan. Also at 6'11 270 you gotta monitor his weight. Will he balloon to 300 or will he turn that baby fat into lean muscle

The only thing that ruined my OK4 dream was someone compared him to eddy curry!

I would love it if we got the number 1 pick- the lottery announcement will be like the finals for us this year. I will be pissed if we end up with anything less than a top 3 pick.

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12/3/2014  1:55 PM
smackeddog wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:just outta curiosity bro.. why are you leaning towns?

Another thing, Briggs high regard for Towns also validates what I've seen and heard about him. Can't go wrong with he or Ok4. Mudiay I don't care for because I don't see Phil drafting that kind of PG

i was only asking because i wondered how many times youve seen the guys play. i havent seen ok4 once yet, but i have seen towns. off initial gut feeling.. towns is going to be good but he's going to take a pretty long time to develop, not as quickly as anthony davis. demarcus cousins took a while too. ill see ok4 and see what i think.

I've seen Ok4 being compared to Cousins actually. Cousins came in with a polished offensive game. He is a beast now that he matured. Both have the same build and height too. Like Cousins I'm not sure if he is a C or PF but that shouldn't be an issue since he is so polished offensively. Need to see how he rebounds. Not overly impressed with his rebounding so far but if he improves than people will start comparing him to Duncan. Also at 6'11 270 you gotta monitor his weight. Will he balloon to 300 or will he turn that baby fat into lean muscle

The only thing that ruined my OK4 dream was someone compared him to eddy curry!

I would love it if we got the number 1 pick- the lottery announcement will be like the finals for us this year. I will be pissed if we end up with anything less than a top 3 pick.

I just have a feeling we will start to improve slightly in 2015 and will not be bad enough to be top 3. I think we can expect to be in the 6-10 range more likely.

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12/3/2014  2:02 PM
Knixkik wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:just outta curiosity bro.. why are you leaning towns?

Another thing, Briggs high regard for Towns also validates what I've seen and heard about him. Can't go wrong with he or Ok4. Mudiay I don't care for because I don't see Phil drafting that kind of PG

i was only asking because i wondered how many times youve seen the guys play. i havent seen ok4 once yet, but i have seen towns. off initial gut feeling.. towns is going to be good but he's going to take a pretty long time to develop, not as quickly as anthony davis. demarcus cousins took a while too. ill see ok4 and see what i think.

I've seen Ok4 being compared to Cousins actually. Cousins came in with a polished offensive game. He is a beast now that he matured. Both have the same build and height too. Like Cousins I'm not sure if he is a C or PF but that shouldn't be an issue since he is so polished offensively. Need to see how he rebounds. Not overly impressed with his rebounding so far but if he improves than people will start comparing him to Duncan. Also at 6'11 270 you gotta monitor his weight. Will he balloon to 300 or will he turn that baby fat into lean muscle

The only thing that ruined my OK4 dream was someone compared him to eddy curry!

I would love it if we got the number 1 pick- the lottery announcement will be like the finals for us this year. I will be pissed if we end up with anything less than a top 3 pick.

I just have a feeling we will start to improve slightly in 2015 and will not be bad enough to be top 3. I think we can expect to be in the 6-10 range more likely.

I agree and its sickens me.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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12/3/2014  2:16 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/3/2014  2:42 PM
NYKBocker wrote:I want a blue chip C or PG.

I don'T see us picking a center, oops, I meant PG, just due to the system we run. Seems like if we did it would be a waste of talent.

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12/3/2014  3:06 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/3/2014  3:12 PM
Knixkik wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:just outta curiosity bro.. why are you leaning towns?

Another thing, Briggs high regard for Towns also validates what I've seen and heard about him. Can't go wrong with he or Ok4. Mudiay I don't care for because I don't see Phil drafting that kind of PG

i was only asking because i wondered how many times youve seen the guys play. i havent seen ok4 once yet, but i have seen towns. off initial gut feeling.. towns is going to be good but he's going to take a pretty long time to develop, not as quickly as anthony davis. demarcus cousins took a while too. ill see ok4 and see what i think.

I've seen Ok4 being compared to Cousins actually. Cousins came in with a polished offensive game. He is a beast now that he matured. Both have the same build and height too. Like Cousins I'm not sure if he is a C or PF but that shouldn't be an issue since he is so polished offensively. Need to see how he rebounds. Not overly impressed with his rebounding so far but if he improves than people will start comparing him to Duncan. Also at 6'11 270 you gotta monitor his weight. Will he balloon to 300 or will he turn that baby fat into lean muscle

The only thing that ruined my OK4 dream was someone compared him to eddy curry!

I would love it if we got the number 1 pick- the lottery announcement will be like the finals for us this year. I will be pissed if we end up with anything less than a top 3 pick.

I just have a feeling we will start to improve slightly in 2015 and will not be bad enough to be top 3. I think we can expect to be in the 6-10 range more likely.


No way are we more than one of the 5 worst teams. Right now we'd be dead last in the Western conference. Unless Bargs comes back to be a 17-7 c every night with Melo Amare and Calderon staying healthy--this team is going to win in the 20 region.

IF we went .500 the rest of the way--which is highly doubtful given evidence of the team's play--wed end 35-47. Just think we'd have to be 11 over .5 the rest of the way to get to there. Its hard enough to be 11 games over as is and there are only 62 games left. I do not think we are beating Clev and IF we lose to Charlotte
on the back to back away from home--we have 3 viscous games following which would bring us to 16 games under at 4-20. After thta game with Boston--we have the hardest stretch of the season coming up where we play essentially all good teams 13 games in a row. You could be looking at something like 6-27

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12/3/2014  3:41 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/3/2014  3:42 PM
fishmike wrote:yea... Im pretty much an anti-tank but this franchise really really needs an injection of youth, and I mean a blue chip player, not more guys like Wear and Early. Hopefully we dont phuck it up and get handed something like OK4 even the Knicks can screw up

Don't fck it up, lmfao.. you can bet the house, land, and cars they will. they haven't drafted a keeper since 1985.

Thats 29 yrs and you guys are excited. Trust me, there going to draft some kid that needs 6 yrs of development league

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12/3/2014  3:56 PM

Maybe Melo is told if you feel anything, limp and come out. Play 50 games. Sleep. No worry.
Trade anyone who shows a great propensity for improvement for a non contributing this season asset.
Expose JR Smith to some "Osmosis Jones" flu, or better yet, give him Tyson's old locker! JR is good enough to screw us up!
Empower Shump with the idea his big hair makes him more marketable!
If Bargs starts to beast, trade him.
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12/3/2014  4:20 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
fishmike wrote:yea... Im pretty much an anti-tank but this franchise really really needs an injection of youth, and I mean a blue chip player, not more guys like Wear and Early. Hopefully we dont phuck it up and get handed something like OK4 even the Knicks can screw up

Don't fck it up, lmfao.. you can bet the house, land, and cars they will. they haven't drafted a keeper since 1985.

Thats 29 yrs and you guys are excited. Trust me, there going to draft some kid that needs 6 yrs of development league

Why so confident? We haven't had a top 3 pick in 30yrs hence the reason we have 0 championships in the same timeframe

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12/3/2014  4:21 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/3/2014  4:22 PM
Nalod wrote:
Maybe Melo is told if you feel anything, limp and come out. Play 50 games. Sleep. No worry.
Trade anyone who shows a great propensity for improvement for a non contributing this season asset.
Expose JR Smith to some "Osmosis Jones" flu, or better yet, give him Tyson's old locker! JR is good enough to screw us up!
Empower Shump with the idea his big hair makes him more marketable!
If Bargs starts to beast, trade him.

lol

some reason the Bargnani bit at the end really got me

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12/3/2014  4:23 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
fishmike wrote:yea... Im pretty much an anti-tank but this franchise really really needs an injection of youth, and I mean a blue chip player, not more guys like Wear and Early. Hopefully we dont phuck it up and get handed something like OK4 even the Knicks can screw up

Don't fck it up, lmfao.. you can bet the house, land, and cars they will. they haven't drafted a keeper since 1985.

Thats 29 yrs and you guys are excited. Trust me, there going to draft some kid that needs 6 yrs of development league

Why so confident? We haven't had a top 3 pick in 30yrs hence the reason we have 0 championships in the same timeframe

we had ewing and proceeded to put trash around him for years..Pat Riley and JVG had the knicks team over achieving yr after year except from 97 to 99,,we were super stack then,

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knicks1248 wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
fishmike wrote:yea... Im pretty much an anti-tank but this franchise really really needs an injection of youth, and I mean a blue chip player, not more guys like Wear and Early. Hopefully we dont phuck it up and get handed something like OK4 even the Knicks can screw up

Don't fck it up, lmfao.. you can bet the house, land, and cars they will. they haven't drafted a keeper since 1985.

Thats 29 yrs and you guys are excited. Trust me, there going to draft some kid that needs 6 yrs of development league

Why so confident? We haven't had a top 3 pick in 30yrs hence the reason we have 0 championships in the same timeframe

we had ewing and proceeded to put trash around him for years..Pat Riley and JVG had the knicks team over achieving yr after year except from 97 to 99,,we were super stack then,

The Knicks are always fighting themselves and rules of the nba. There was no cap in the 80's/90's and we need got Ewing championship talent until it was too late.

Now the Knicks of 2000-2015 are fighting against the cap. Because of the cap you need to prioritize Drafting, developing & holding onto your cheap talent. Its not rocket science.

you can't make it up really. The Knicks have been a joke for a long time

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12/3/2014  9:53 PM
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BRIGGS wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:just outta curiosity bro.. why are you leaning towns?

Another thing, Briggs high regard for Towns also validates what I've seen and heard about him. Can't go wrong with he or Ok4. Mudiay I don't care for because I don't see Phil drafting that kind of PG

I think you have to see the whole season before anyone is a lock OTHER than OK4. I think Ok4 is a lock number 1 pick. Darn trouble is that Id like to see Kentuckys big men play 30-35 minutes each a few games. Hope and pray we get pick 1 and then we wont have to do guesswork.

yea Kentucky has 3 potential blue chip bigs in Towns, Dakari & Stein. You wanna make sure you get the right one. You think Philly takes Ok4/Towns even with Embid & Noel?


You gotta take the best player available. You don'the wanna be that guy who took Sam Bowie over Jordan. I like Noel's potential, but I don'the see him ever gaining the tag of franchise player and Emily has question marks regarding his health. Maybe the 76ers trade down?
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