Finestrg wrote:

Splat wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Chicago did well for themselves not getting Melo and signing Gasol

They dodged a bullet!

[Fishmike response pending]

They certainly did..

You know what -- I take it back. I don't know if they dodged a bullet. I think Melo would've been very good there. He's exactly what Chicago needs right now. He's their missing piece. I think with Rose, Noah, and some of their other good parts--they could've been the class of the East. And Melo would've been playing hard and effective--they would've been a winning team, ready to challenge for it all. Melo on the Knicks, this Knicks team specifically, is an entirely different animal. I really feel like he's mailing it in and that he's extremely frustrated with what's going on. Part of that is understandable I guess to a degree and then part of it has to do with Melo's personality -- that he's not a real leader, not a guy who's gonna rally the troops in a huddle, not a guy who's gonna trust any of teammates enough to give up the ball up to in a big spot...Just look at his play right from pre-season -- he's the biggest culprit as far as a guy who doesn't trust his teammates and the system. ...The man needs other premier talent around him to work or at the very least other guys to provide leadership like we had on the Jason Kidd/Rasheed Wallace team. Simple as that. Chicago has both those aspects covered. They would've been lights out with Melo.

Finestrg wrote:

Finestrg wrote:

Splat wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Chicago did well for themselves not getting Melo and signing Gasol

They dodged a bullet!

[Fishmike response pending]

They certainly did..

You know what -- I take it back. I don't know if they dodged a bullet. I think Melo would've been very good there. He's exactly what Chicago needs right now. He's their missing piece. I think with Rose, Noah, and some of their other good parts--they could've been the class of the East. And Melo would've been playing hard and effective--they would've been a winning team, ready to challenge for it all. Melo on the Knicks, this Knicks team specifically, is an entirely different animal. I really feel like he's mailing it in and that he's extremely frustrated with what's going on. Part of that is understandable I guess to a degree and then part of it has to do with Melo's personality -- that he's not a real leader, not a guy who's gonna rally the troops in a huddle, not a guy who's gonna trust any of teammates enough to give up the ball up to in a big spot...Just look at his play right from pre-season -- he's the biggest culprit as far as a guy who doesn't trust his teammates and the system. ...The man needs other premier talent around him to work or at the very least other guys to provide leadership like we had on the Jason Kidd/Rasheed Wallace team. Simple as that. Chicago has both those aspects covered. They would've been lights out with Melo.

Melo certainly should have gone to Chicago. It would have good for him in so many ways. He'd have a shot at winning. They would probably be able to use him with some efficiency. And he'd be part of a culture that would give him something more than he's gotten out of the game before. He'd have his character tested and he'd have to play nice with guys like Noah who would push him, not to mention their coach. It was the closest thing Melo ever had to a golden opportunity and he blew it. Money, whatever, if he wanted legacy, this was the play for him. We needed to make a trade because they could use him now. We really can't.

F500ONE wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:Didnt watch it. I dont agree that he isnt concenrating on basketball enough, I think he is competitive and wants to win. However, the issue with melo is that he isnt the type of player wo can carry a team, vey few guys are. I accept him for what he is, a great scorer but in order to win you need to be more than just a scorer

Nope that's why he passed on going to

Chicago-Dallas-Houston

2 teams off to far better starts vs their previous seasons

He wants what comes being a star athlete in New York

If he wins he knows it will be a wonderful thing

But winning is secondary and his competitiveness is ISOLATED within self

Rose and Gasol make Chicago better. They did not have them last season.
Dallas has FluTyson healthy.
Houston has many changes to its roster.

Its not like Melo would have hurt any of them. Get real.

gunsnewing wrote:I think it is very difficult to win a championship when you offensive star is a SF who doesn't defend. IMO Melo would've gotten severely exposed in Chicago.

Glen Robinson
Dominique Wilkins
Benard King

Whereas you win with guys like Pippen, Odom, Marion, Prince, Manu & Pierce

Melo is not the most confident guy IMO. Taking the biggest paycheck with an alibi for losing was probably preferable to putting his reputation on the line in Chicago. He called himself an underrated superstar. Sad. He'll likely never get to prove it now. In Chicago, no questions would have remained about how he truly rates.

Splat wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:I think it is very difficult to win a championship when you offensive star is a SF who doesn't defend. IMO Melo would've gotten severely exposed in Chicago.

Glen Robinson
Dominique Wilkins
Benard King

Whereas you win with guys like Pippen, Odom, Marion, Prince, Manu & Pierce

Melo is not the most confident guy IMO. Taking the biggest paycheck with an alibi for losing was probably preferable to putting his reputation on the line in Chicago. He called himself an underrated superstar. Sad. He'll likely never get to prove it now. In Chicago, no questions would have remained about how he truly rates.

exactly by signing with Chicago he would've risked exposing himself and risk demolishing his brand completely

gunsnewing wrote:

Splat wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:I think it is very difficult to win a championship when you offensive star is a SF who doesn't defend. IMO Melo would've gotten severely exposed in Chicago.

Glen Robinson
Dominique Wilkins
Benard King

Whereas you win with guys like Pippen, Odom, Marion, Prince, Manu & Pierce

Melo is not the most confident guy IMO. Taking the biggest paycheck with an alibi for losing was probably preferable to putting his reputation on the line in Chicago. He called himself an underrated superstar. Sad. He'll likely never get to prove it now. In Chicago, no questions would have remained about how he truly rates.

exactly by signing with Chicago he would've risked exposing himself and risk demolishing his brand completely

I'm requesting a moratorium on referring to players as brands.

Maybe we can call them something else like commoditized sacks of flesh or pre-Hollywood athletic promotions.

Nalod wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:Didnt watch it. I dont agree that he isnt concenrating on basketball enough, I think he is competitive and wants to win. However, the issue with melo is that he isnt the type of player wo can carry a team, vey few guys are. I accept him for what he is, a great scorer but in order to win you need to be more than just a scorer

Nope that's why he passed on going to

Chicago-Dallas-Houston

2 teams off to far better starts vs their previous seasons

He wants what comes being a star athlete in New York

If he wins he knows it will be a wonderful thing

But winning is secondary and his competitiveness is ISOLATED within self

Rose and Gasol make Chicago better. They did not have them last season.
Dallas has FluTyson healthy.
Houston has many changes to its roster.

Its not like Melo would have hurt any of them. Get real.

I guess let them enjoy their bashing.

In every thread.

Over and over again.

I am the ultimateMeloApologist lol

fishmike wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

Hector wrote:MSG inc doesn't care about The Knicks & Rangers winning titles, they care about Taylor Swift selling out The Paramount, or Radio City - or the freakin' Circus at The Beacon that took the dates The Allman Brothers have had for years!

I envy San Antonio, New York has become so wimped out & fake.

Melo Inc not MSG

by how MSG feels i meant The Knicks, Dolan, Phil etc

I see now that the best 2way player since and your darling has returned to totally sucking your on full MElo-tilt again. Good stuff

fish to the melo-hate rescue

Most passive aggressive poster I've ever seen.

yea its been a bad couple years. Sorry about that.