[ IMAGES: Images ON turn off | ACCOUNT: User Status is LOCKED why? ]

BLAME IT ALL ON FISHER
Author Thread
knicks1248
Posts: 42059
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 2/3/2004
Member: #582
12/1/2014  7:08 PM
we have a bunch of PnR players on this team, and we run the fewest PnR plays in the league.

It just reminds me of when Rambis tried to run the system in Mini, the roster was young and dumb.

Phil picked fisher because he's young, smart and has a excellent relationship with the players through out the league, they respect him, and he's a positive voice all the time. His problem is that he has no identity, so his team has no identity. His rotation is too deep at this point of the season.

My biggest question so far this season, Is phil sitting in on these practices and not saying a word?

ES
AUTOADVERT
IronWillGiroud
Posts: 25207
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 10/17/2012
Member: #4359

12/1/2014  7:15 PM
Blame what on fisher? We just started the zen build, we are nascent stages, what will you blame him for?

We will be alright Knicks will be great book it. We are due

The Will, check out the Official Home of Will's GameDay Art: http://tinyurl.com/thewillgameday
Knicks1969
Posts: 25394
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 11/7/2014
Member: #5915

12/1/2014  8:50 PM
I just want to ride the young players if we are truly tanking to see which one might turn out to be the star. Out of THJ, Larkin, Wear, Acy, and Cleantony, I have a feeling one of them may turn out to be special. Play them heavy minutes with Carmelo and Calderon; at the end,if we only win 20 games I will be happy.
Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
franco12
Posts: 34069
Alba Posts: 4
Joined: 2/19/2004
Member: #599
USA
12/1/2014  8:55 PM
I think the key question is this: 'Is the triangle a viable offensive system in today's NBA'
Splat
Posts: 23774
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 7/19/2014
Member: #5862

12/1/2014  8:57 PM
franco12 wrote:I think the key question is this: 'Is the triangle a viable offensive system in today's NBA'

Or "Can you fit a team of clowns into a VW Bug?"

I've got a fever and the only prescription is more cowbell!
Knicks1969
Posts: 25394
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 11/7/2014
Member: #5915

12/1/2014  9:06 PM
franco12 wrote:I think the key question is this: 'Is the triangle a viable offensive system in today's NBA'

Any system can work in the NBA. You just need to have the right talents to fit within it to make it a success. If Pau Gasol were to accept Phil's offer, we would have won a lot more games thus far. He is a consummate passer in the low post, and can score with the best of them. We simply don't have the horses to run the system

Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
knicks1248
Posts: 42059
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 2/3/2004
Member: #582
12/1/2014  9:08 PM
Knicks1969 wrote:I just want to ride the young players if we are truly tanking to see which one might turn out to be the star. Out of THJ, Larkin, Wear, Acy, and Cleantony, I have a feeling one of them may turn out to be special. Play them heavy minutes with Carmelo and Calderon; at the end,if we only win 20 games I will be happy.

2014-win 20 games to win a high draft pick who has zero fundamentals (probably a stiff of a big man that shoots mid range jumpers only), but a bunch of talent (if were absolutely lucky), marc gasol goes else where to a contender, in fact no star is coming to a rebuilding team with just melo.

2015- win 30 games with a mosh posh squad on 1 yr deals, protecting cap space for durant, and no draft pick, durant stays in OKC or goes to DC to play with the "pass first" john wall, and we get some 2nd tier star

2016 Win 40 games, make it to the first round Melo breaks down.

2017-trade our 2015 draft pick for a aging star to get melo a second fading star..

yep we need that high draft pick so things can resume to normal mediocracy..

ES
gunsnewing
Posts: 55076
Alba Posts: 5
Joined: 2/24/2002
Member: #215
USA
12/1/2014  9:12 PM
Mediocrity is what we do best
TPercy
Posts: 28010
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 2/5/2014
Member: #5748

12/1/2014  9:27 PM
gunsnewing wrote:Mediocrity is what we do best

true even then they're certain games where we can't even do that right

The Future is Bright!
Knicks1969
Posts: 25394
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 11/7/2014
Member: #5915

12/1/2014  9:28 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:I just want to ride the young players if we are truly tanking to see which one might turn out to be the star. Out of THJ, Larkin, Wear, Acy, and Cleantony, I have a feeling one of them may turn out to be special. Play them heavy minutes with Carmelo and Calderon; at the end,if we only win 20 games I will be happy.

2014-win 20 games to win a high draft pick who has zero fundamentals (probably a stiff of a big man that shoots mid range jumpers only), but a bunch of talent (if were absolutely lucky), marc gasol goes else where to a contender, in fact no star is coming to a rebuilding team with just melo.

2015- win 30 games with a mosh posh squad on 1 yr deals, protecting cap space for durant, and no draft pick, durant stays in OKC or goes to DC to play with the "pass first" john wall, and we get some 2nd tier star

2016 Win 40 games, make it to the first round Melo breaks down.

2017-trade our 2015 draft pick for a aging star to get melo a second fading star..

yep we need that high draft pick so things can resume to normal mediocracy..

Losing is certainly NOT my first choice. I want to win pronto, but we can never be a winner with the players we current are giving heavy minutes to right now. I want to win 40 games and make it to the playoffs, but can you actually see Knicks winning with Carmelo, Shump, Smith, and stoudamire? That won't happen.

Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
smackeddog
Posts: 38391
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 3/30/2005
Member: #883
12/1/2014  9:30 PM
gunsnewing wrote:Mediocrity is what we do best

You think we're mediocre?!

Moonangie
Posts: 24766
Alba Posts: 5
Joined: 7/9/2009
Member: #2788

12/1/2014  9:42 PM
Nalod wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:
Moonangie wrote:Yet another in the lineage of Knicks1969 idiotic threads. Dude, why do you bother starting more hater threads? Do you think an experienced HC would want to be under Jax in a tanking year (or at all)?

Get a clue, man.

Mark Jackson and many others wanted the Job. You are the one who needs to get a clue.

And Mark Jax is going to run the team to Phil's specifications?

Kerr im sure was told "its gonna suck, you'll lose the first year but little pressure, you'll be away from family, but you'll get paid!
Kerr is buddies with GS owner, its president worked for Suns previously and the Roster is ready now. Same money. No brainer.

Fish gets chance to learn on the fly, work for the Zen master, get paid, and no pressure year one. Good gig!!

Nalod is one of the most astute posters on this forum. This is exactly right. Fisher will be legit, but he needs to go thru some learnin pains. Some fans are getting desperate, but there's no avoiding the process. I like what we got from Jax on down, as long as Jimmy Douche stays away.

Moonangie
Posts: 24766
Alba Posts: 5
Joined: 7/9/2009
Member: #2788

12/1/2014  9:43 PM
Knicks1969 wrote:
Nalod wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:
Moonangie wrote:Yet another in the lineage of Knicks1969 idiotic threads. Dude, why do you bother starting more hater threads? Do you think an experienced HC would want to be under Jax in a tanking year (or at all)?

Get a clue, man.

Mark Jackson and many others wanted the Job. You are the one who needs to get a clue.

And Mark Jax is going to run the team to Phil's specifications?

Kerr im sure was told "its gonna suck, you'll lose the first year but little pressure, you'll be away from family, but you'll get paid!
Kerr is buddies with GS owner, its president worked for Suns previously and the Roster is ready now. Same money. No brainer.

Fish gets chance to learn on the fly, work for the Zen master, get paid, and no pressure year one. Good gig!!

I will not dispute that. Dude, I actually don't mind losing; I just don't want to lose with JR, Amare, and Bargnani. I want the young boys to develop, and I want the guys who might be around a while to get minutes to learn the TRIANGLE. As long as Wear, THJ, and Larkin are getting heavy minutes, I will be a huge supporter of Fisher. Show me what tomorrow might look like

Now you're talkin. Totally agree with you...let's develop the yoots this year. Melo should be on spa-level duty.

Knicks1969
Posts: 25394
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 11/7/2014
Member: #5915

12/1/2014  9:45 PM
smackeddog wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Mediocrity is what we do best

You think we're mediocre?!

We can actually win with what we have if managed properly. Instead of running triangle offense, run the offense currently San Antonio is using. Swing the ball around which forces defenses to spread and put Carmelo and Amare in the low post to feast. Spread the floor with shooters.

Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
Moonangie
Posts: 24766
Alba Posts: 5
Joined: 7/9/2009
Member: #2788

12/1/2014  9:45 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:I just want to ride the young players if we are truly tanking to see which one might turn out to be the star. Out of THJ, Larkin, Wear, Acy, and Cleantony, I have a feeling one of them may turn out to be special. Play them heavy minutes with Carmelo and Calderon; at the end,if we only win 20 games I will be happy.

2014-win 20 games to win a high draft pick who has zero fundamentals (probably a stiff of a big man that shoots mid range jumpers only), but a bunch of talent (if were absolutely lucky), marc gasol goes else where to a contender, in fact no star is coming to a rebuilding team with just melo.

2015- win 30 games with a mosh posh squad on 1 yr deals, protecting cap space for durant, and no draft pick, durant stays in OKC or goes to DC to play with the "pass first" john wall, and we get some 2nd tier star

2016 Win 40 games, make it to the first round Melo breaks down.

2017-trade our 2015 draft pick for a aging star to get melo a second fading star..

yep we need that high draft pick so things can resume to normal mediocracy..

This is certainly possible, but it's a worst case scenario you posting. But yeah, might go down like that. Let's hope Phil don't play that game.

gunsnewing
Posts: 55076
Alba Posts: 5
Joined: 2/24/2002
Member: #215
USA
12/1/2014  9:59 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/1/2014  10:00 PM
smackeddog wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Mediocrity is what we do best

You think we're mediocre?!

good point we are worst than mediocre. We need to trade for Josh Smith and Brandon Jennings to get back to mediocrity

Knicks1969
Posts: 25394
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 11/7/2014
Member: #5915

12/1/2014  10:23 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Mediocrity is what we do best

You think we're mediocre?!

good point we are worst than mediocre. We need to trade for Josh Smith and Brandon Jennings to get back to mediocrity

Lmfao

Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
Splat
Posts: 23774
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 7/19/2014
Member: #5862

12/1/2014  10:44 PM
Knicks1969 wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Mediocrity is what we do best

You think we're mediocre?!

We can actually win with what we have if managed properly. Instead of running triangle offense, run the offense currently San Antonio is using. Swing the ball around which forces defenses to spread and put Carmelo and Amare in the low post to feast. Spread the floor with shooters.

Saying this current roster could, oh you know, just play like, um, SAN ANTONIO is like saying the Ramones would have revolutionized quantum physics if they had simply set their minds to it.

I've got a fever and the only prescription is more cowbell!
newyorknewyork
Posts: 30167
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 1/16/2004
Member: #541
12/1/2014  11:33 PM
Knicks have played the easiest schedule in the NBA(according to radio) and are 4-14. Our Dec schedule is pretty tough.
https://vote.nba.com/en Vote for your Knicks.
Splat
Posts: 23774
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 7/19/2014
Member: #5862

12/1/2014  11:40 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:Knicks have played the easiest schedule in the NBA(according to radio) and are 4-14. Our Dec schedule is pretty tough.

We may win 2-4 games this month, that's probably it. So 6-24 to 8-22 is the range of records I see at the end of the month. I'm hoping we can do that the rest of the way. The best we can hope for is a .200 record as nobody is catching Philly. It's between us, the Bobcats and Detroit mostly. The Bobcats will probably do at least a little better. The Lakers and Minny may be in the hunt too.

My guess is we'll have the 3rd or 4th worst record at the end of the season. I'm pulling for 2nd or 3rd and some ping pong luck.

I've got a fever and the only prescription is more cowbell!
BLAME IT ALL ON FISHER

©2001-2025 ultimateknicks.comm All rights reserved. About Us.
This site is not affiliated with the NY Knicks or the National Basketball Association in any way.
You may visit the official NY Knicks web site by clicking here.

All times (GMT-05:00) Eastern Time.

Terms of Use and Privacy Policy