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Option 2: Trade Melo to the Celtics...
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Bonn1997
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11/25/2014  10:08 AM
Splat wrote:Welcome to the Hotel Melofornia.

He can check out, but he will never leave.


You definitely aren't TKF. That's more creative than what he would come up with
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11/25/2014  10:13 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
Splat wrote:Welcome to the Hotel Melofornia.

He can check out, but he will never leave.


You definitely aren't TKF. That's more creative than what he would come up with


I've got a fever and the only prescription is more cowbell!
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11/25/2014  11:03 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
Splat wrote:Welcome to the Hotel Melofornia.

He can check out, but he will never leave.


You definitely aren't TKF. That's more creative than what he would come up with

kinda obvious at this point.

FS is now the only suspect but the wacky format is too original for TKF to have come up with.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
Bonn1997
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11/25/2014  11:13 AM
mreinman wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Splat wrote:Welcome to the Hotel Melofornia.

He can check out, but he will never leave.


You definitely aren't TKF. That's more creative than what he would come up with

kinda obvious at this point.

FS is now the only suspect but the wacky format is too original for TKF to have come up with.

Lol!

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11/25/2014  11:32 AM
mreinman wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Splat wrote:Welcome to the Hotel Melofornia.

He can check out, but he will never leave.


You definitely aren't TKF. That's more creative than what he would come up with

kinda obvious at this point.

FS is now the only suspect but the wacky format is too original for TKF to have come up with.

Hmmm F5 is TKF? Maybe? They both like using analogies. I thought 3G4G but I don't necessarily remember what his posting style was like

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11/25/2014  11:52 AM
Ahhh still sippin Hennessy

While chasing internet identities


Where is this TKF guy at, it's obvious

So many pine for his return

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11/25/2014  12:00 PM
F500ONE wrote:Ahhh still sippin Hennessy

While chasing internet identities


Where is this TKF guy at, it's obvious

So many pine for his return

He was bullied and driving away but I always said that the people here couldn't get enough of him and the constant debates.

You are right. It's evident be is missed by the people who drove him out as they are still bringing up his name

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11/25/2014  1:49 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
F500ONE wrote:Ahhh still sippin Hennessy

While chasing internet identities


Where is this TKF guy at, it's obvious

So many pine for his return

He was bullied and driving away but I always said that the people here couldn't get enough of him and the constant debates.

You are right. It's evident be is missed by the people who drove him out as they are still bringing up his name

I miss him. He was adorably dumb. I was really hilarious at times. And the little fukker never gave up. You can stick a knife in his leg and he would say "ain't no knife in my leg, right DK?"

so here is what phil is thinking ....
mreinman
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11/25/2014  4:08 PM
F500ONE wrote:Ahhh still sippin Hennessy

While chasing internet identities


Where is this TKF guy at, it's obvious

So many pine for his return

Can you bring "him" back?

its "obvious" that maybe he never left

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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11/25/2014  4:26 PM
mreinman wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
F500ONE wrote:Ahhh still sippin Hennessy

While chasing internet identities


Where is this TKF guy at, it's obvious

So many pine for his return

He was bullied and driving away but I always said that the people here couldn't get enough of him and the constant debates.

You are right. It's evident be is missed by the people who drove him out as they are still bringing up his name

I miss him. He was adorably dumb. I was really hilarious at times. And the little fukker never gave up. You can stick a knife in his leg and he would say "ain't no knife in my leg, right DK?"

did you disagree with him about everything about basketball? i would bet in spite of the acrimony you had more than a little common ground outside of advanced stats.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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11/25/2014  4:27 PM
dk7th wrote:
mreinman wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
F500ONE wrote:Ahhh still sippin Hennessy

While chasing internet identities


Where is this TKF guy at, it's obvious

So many pine for his return

He was bullied and driving away but I always said that the people here couldn't get enough of him and the constant debates.

You are right. It's evident be is missed by the people who drove him out as they are still bringing up his name

I miss him. He was adorably dumb. I was really hilarious at times. And the little fukker never gave up. You can stick a knife in his leg and he would say "ain't no knife in my leg, right DK?"

did you disagree with him about everything about basketball? i would bet in spite of the acrimony you had more than a little common ground outside of advanced stats.

no ... we did not disagree on everything. Just a lot of basics.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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11/25/2014  4:36 PM
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:
mreinman wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
F500ONE wrote:Ahhh still sippin Hennessy

While chasing internet identities


Where is this TKF guy at, it's obvious

So many pine for his return

He was bullied and driving away but I always said that the people here couldn't get enough of him and the constant debates.

You are right. It's evident be is missed by the people who drove him out as they are still bringing up his name

I miss him. He was adorably dumb. I was really hilarious at times. And the little fukker never gave up. You can stick a knife in his leg and he would say "ain't no knife in my leg, right DK?"

did you disagree with him about everything about basketball? i would bet in spite of the acrimony you had more than a little common ground outside of advanced stats.

no ... we did not disagree on everything. Just a lot of basics.

Probably reading this thread as we speak

Grinning ear-to-ear as much as you constantly cat call him

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11/25/2014  4:47 PM
F500ONE wrote:
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:
mreinman wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
F500ONE wrote:Ahhh still sippin Hennessy

While chasing internet identities


Where is this TKF guy at, it's obvious

So many pine for his return

He was bullied and driving away but I always said that the people here couldn't get enough of him and the constant debates.

You are right. It's evident be is missed by the people who drove him out as they are still bringing up his name

I miss him. He was adorably dumb. I was really hilarious at times. And the little fukker never gave up. You can stick a knife in his leg and he would say "ain't no knife in my leg, right DK?"

did you disagree with him about everything about basketball? i would bet in spite of the acrimony you had more than a little common ground outside of advanced stats.

no ... we did not disagree on everything. Just a lot of basics.

Probably reading and writing this post as we speak

Grinning ear-to-ear as much as you constantly cat call him

fixed

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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11/26/2014  6:10 AM    LAST EDITED: 11/26/2014  6:11 AM
Knixkik wrote:
TripleThreat wrote:
Nalod wrote:Not a month into the season and we already decided that he can't be a part of the triangle?


I think many fans have decided that Carmelo Anthony is a DEPRECIATING ASSET.
No different than when you buy a brand new car off the lot, and then watch it's actual value plummet the minute you sign the contract and leave the dealer lot. Except the Knicks didn't get a brand new car, they paid a brand new car plus more price for a used car. Denver got the benefit of all of Melo's cost controlled years.

Several years ago, the Knicks might have gotten a nice Taj Gibson/Jimmy Butler package, before the Bulls traded off Deng. They might have been able to get a package centered around Chandler Parsons before he signed with the Mavericks. There were various trade scenarios when Melo didn't have a No Trade Clause, was younger and didn't have this coach killer/can't deal with team mates in conflict/keeps saying stupid things in the media millstone around his neck.

1) He spent most of his career out of shape. That always catches up to a player eventually.

2) He is poor mix of don't care/don't try/don't understand on defense. If you can't even defend your own weight in the NBA, as you age, your value plummets, even if you have a marketable skill set ( see Ray Allen)

3) He's horrible in the press

4) He offers zero leadership

5) He has established a reputation as a coach killer.

6) Team mates who can actually help the team win, he's driven off the franchise

7) His desire to get paid first and foremost has compromised his team's ability to build a strong roster around him

8) Instead of eating, drinking, living the game ( not everyone can be as consumed as Peyton Manning and Michael Jordan), he clearly sees his basketball career as a means to an end and nothing else.

9) He doesn't move well off the ball, he has poor shot selection, he has limited court vision/savvy as a passer, he's generally a low BB IQ player.

10) He has shown little to no propensity to thrive in a team basketball system/environment.

He's a great one on one player who offers lethal offense and can create his own shot. He'd be a great sixth man or hired gunner for a team needed an offensive push. It's a valuable skill set, but one that has limited utility when discussing the qualities needed for a "franchise player"

He's a poor fit for the current state of the franchise ( he makes the Knicks a treadmill team, he's set to play for a team ready to contend now, to amass the assets needed to build a team around him, Melo will be out of his prime and at the end of his current contract, and that's if the Knicks do every single thing right from now to the end of said contract)

As each day passes, his trade value diminishes. The Knicks holding on to him is like the Cowboys holding onto Herschel Walker a few more years than they did and then trying to trade him to the Vikings.

All his negative intangibles become more highlighted as Melo gets older, this is true for all players who other NBA players don't want to play with, not if they have a choice ( i.e. Kobe Bryant and Dwight Howard)

"Better to get rid of a player a year too early than a year too late" - Bill Walsh.

This is the sad state of our fan base. Most cities would embrace a star player in their prime as just that. We view our's as a depreciating asset.


How dare the fans be so realistic! You're giving them too much credit, though. I'm sure anyone would be upset if their team had the player with the largest basketball contract in the world signed through his sixteenth year and the team was sub .300.
Option 2: Trade Melo to the Celtics...

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