BRIGGS wrote:I don't like this backwards projectile that I'm seeing I expected more of an all around game. I would take nothing less than a 2015 first rounder

Tim Jr is a above decent player with potential, where I think THardaway jr problem is here in NBA he is playing agains lots and lots
of good NBA players some not elite like LBJ & K.Durant, but the 2nd level or 3rd -4th level talent he goes against has so many other
skills to their primary game which Hardaway doesn't have OR HE DOESNT GET IT As yet !

Unless he spends time more on passing, going to basket .. & especially defending (team and man to man) and even rebounding for his
height he gonna be lost on any NBA team, he's in awe of what others can do, beside scoring and he isn't focused on any other area
than his Jumper going down (like his dad Tim Snr.)

Tim Snr. passed and was top as_sist leader, and even pressured PG played when he stepped it up. Tim Snr. can rebound sometimes
decent for his lacking height.

There is not 1 single area of hoops that Tim Jr has shown OR put a stamp on other than his outside shooting which is avg. - mediocre
at best this season, he worries much too much bout playing time and what's wrong with his J' rather than impressing NBA & nyk coaches
in other things he can do to help team play winning style. Don't know whom is talking to this kid OR working with him & I aint sure
at this stage of season he'd have same NBA demand for trades.

If a NBA team called about Hardaway Knicks would get ripped off in trade based on lack or results & output much different from
Tim Jr. last rookie season..

Tim is stuck with NY and Knicks are stuck with him. Tim gotta pick up his overall game I am a fan of Tim jr but very disappointed
since he got some opportunity here to play with guys out and Knicks in dire need of help production. He's done not a damn thing to give
fans feeling he knows what's going on at court end & making plays, clueless.

Tim has guys whom look like on court half/his talent or height or slower whom are buss'ing Hardway As_s each time out

DJMUSIC wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:Yes, Phil and Derrick are leaders, but who are they grooming to lead the guys on the court? All successful organizations have foot soldiers to pass down certain instructions to the workers. They need to coach none other than Carmelo to develop those attributes. One he has that, he will reach his super stardom.

Melo is wrong foot soldier for what' your asking. I am sure Melo has private chats with new and young players.

But lets get real now, final say is when a player gets chances to play... on court.

Tim Jr has shown flashes last season and ended well, but regressed this yr. If you're on bench and finally get into game
and cannot see where you can help a NBA team struggling then maybe you don't need a NBA job. Hardaway has some chances and
he's one of Knicks whom play very poorly with the opportunities.

When you have no name NBA bench guys on Knicks foes come into game & they take it to you (Timmy jr) that's on Tim Jr
sorry. This young gent I like him but unless he changes some areas of where he figures it out he wont be a Knick next season.

NBA isn't all about jumper going down, if you going to be like that than follow Steph Curry (Warriors) role whom came in as
HUGE College bigshot and elevated in NBA pro. And by the way Curry jumpers isn't only NBA identity he develop moves to basket
passing and as_sists and some penchant for NBA steals.

Of course Tim Jr don't have rep like Curry came out of NCAA with but there are lesser NBA talents in league than Tim JR whom
make a name for something good to their overall skill sets.

One of them players is Amir Johnson of Toronto Raptors , a nobody bench substitute whom matured quickly into a versatile and
very good NBA Forward in this league. Amin is reason why Toronto is good team not just cause of Lowry and DeRozan

Amir has been in the league for a while and played in more than one team under several defensive minded proven coaches. He is not a good example that you should use as it relates to THJ. Given minutes, proper coaching, and good surrounding leaders, he will become a hell of a player. He showed glimpses of a leader in the summer league; if fostered, he can become the all around player we sorely need.

tj23 wrote:I'd dump Timmy immediately while he still has value before the rest of the league sees he's just a 3point chucker with almost nothing else to contribute.

I am sure you would.

Knicks1969 wrote:

tj23 wrote:I'd dump Timmy immediately while he still has value before the rest of the league sees he's just a 3point chucker with almost nothing else to contribute.

I am sure you would.

Nalod wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:I don't like this backwards projectile that I'm seeing I expected more of an all around game. I would take nothing less than a 2015 first rounder

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I think you have traded this team twice this month.

Do you blame me? I'm actually willing to live w the if the knicks commit 32 minutes without exception. If not let's use him to either get rid of cap space or bring us back picks. I can't accept thj as a bit player who is inconsistent