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11/9/2014  12:39 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/09/sports/basketball/its-elementary-knicks-problem-is-chemistry-not-geometry.html?mabReward=RI%3A13&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&region=CColumn&module=Recommendation&src=rechp&WT.nav=RecEngine&_r=0
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11/9/2014  12:54 PM
misterearl wrote:http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/09/sports/basketball/its-elementary-knicks-problem-is-chemistry-not-geometry.html?mabReward=RI%3A13&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&region=CColumn&module=Recommendation&src=rechp&WT.nav=RecEngine&_r=0

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11/9/2014  4:52 PM
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11/9/2014  7:24 PM
Inconsistent lineup, is causing a lack of stability amongst the players. And, Fish needs to coach our boys to crash the boards after each shot, and push the tempo to not allow the opposing defense to settle and disrupt the triangle.
Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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11/9/2014  7:30 PM
Knicks1969 wrote:Inconsistent lineup, is causing a lack of stability amongst the players. And, Fish needs to coach our boys to crash the boards after each shot, and push the tempo to not allow the opposing defense to settle and disrupt the triangle.

Would not refute this being at the top of list

Good points Knicks1969

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11/9/2014  7:31 PM
as always ... a shytty backcourt
so here is what phil is thinking ....
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11/9/2014  9:08 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/9/2014  10:23 PM
Biggest problem? Expectations. Any expectations at all. Coach needs practice, all of the players need practice, the players that are going to stay (hello, Melo!) need practice. Expectations that, oh, they might make the playoffs or that they might be competitive, or whatever, at this point, are counterproductive. IIRC, amazingly enough, the Knicks have a pick next year . . . so there's also that.
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11/10/2014  8:35 AM
mreinman wrote:as always ... a shytty backcourt

This is the real problem. This is why the offensive stinks. Although realistically, if they had a stretch 4 this could mask some of the backcourt's deficiencies. Biggest problem is really the lack of anybody that can knock down a perimeter jumper with any regularity. They could use one guy in the backcourt that could make an open 3 to improve spacing. While Shump has played better, he still remains almost unguarded outside of 18ft. Melo is the only guy who can make an open 3 with any regularity on the roster, which really serves no purpose since he'll get like 1 open look a game from 3. Watch any team in the league other than maybe Detroit and it is fairly obvious this is the biggest problem. Teams really pack it in against the Knicks.

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11/10/2014  8:37 AM
Knicks1969 wrote:Inconsistent lineup, is causing a lack of stability amongst the players. And, Fish needs to coach our boys to crash the boards after each shot, and push the tempo to not allow the opposing defense to settle and disrupt the triangle.

Great point as well. Would put this as the 2nd problem. Most the players aren't very good so seems to me he's trying to catch lightning in a bottle with all these lineups.

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11/10/2014  10:03 AM
F500ONE wrote:Non player main issue I'll say our offense

At least for this team is a problem and I'll state


The other lingering issue here


I'm going side bar but check this out

This act of his has gotten way past old


Notice what was said right after the team went 2-1


http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/11816094/carmelo-anthony-says-new-york-knicks-had-bad-energy-last-season

The energy is different this season, Anthony said. And that is one reason the team is off to a 2-1 start.

Carmelo Anthony said the Knicks' energy is different this season, and that's one reason the team has started 2-1.

"I think just overall, not pointing anything out, but just overall from day one last year the energy was just not right," Anthony said after practice on Monday. "This year, you could just feel the total difference stepping into this gym, talking to guys, talking to the staff, talking to the players. Everybody has a newfound energy so it's just a lot different now."


Fast Forward 4gms later and 4 consecutive losses

This is part of what was said after today's loss



Every since Little Debbie opened his mouth

Front running like he usually does, we've lost and had


Maybe our worst stretch of play since

Phil knowing he has him here for 4yrs why doesn't Phil


Call him out for what he is and demand he man up and change

How he plays once and for all otherwise they need to discuss his future here


We don't have any PLAYER LEADERSHIP

I agree that Melo is not a "vocal" leader, which I do believe is what keeps him from being a superstar player. He is way too passive on the court, Phil and Fisher need to start calling him out for that. There are times when he is sleepwalking on the court, which should not be tolerated.

When your best player is not willing to do the small stuff, it is hard for others to follow. He needs to be a lot more demanding on the court, and he also needs to spearhead our defense; specifically in second half of games. Giving that he commands max money, if the Knicks are going to be successful, he has to put in the time and effort. Get in the gym earlier than most and work later. Accountability needs to start with him. When the young guys observe his efforts, they will take notes.

Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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11/10/2014  11:08 AM
I love when so many posters think they have the solutions as if it were that easy.
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11/10/2014  12:31 PM
Knicks1969 wrote:
F500ONE wrote:Non player main issue I'll say our offense

At least for this team is a problem and I'll state


The other lingering issue here


I'm going side bar but check this out

This act of his has gotten way past old


Notice what was said right after the team went 2-1


http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/11816094/carmelo-anthony-says-new-york-knicks-had-bad-energy-last-season

The energy is different this season, Anthony said. And that is one reason the team is off to a 2-1 start.

Carmelo Anthony said the Knicks' energy is different this season, and that's one reason the team has started 2-1.

"I think just overall, not pointing anything out, but just overall from day one last year the energy was just not right," Anthony said after practice on Monday. "This year, you could just feel the total difference stepping into this gym, talking to guys, talking to the staff, talking to the players. Everybody has a newfound energy so it's just a lot different now."


Fast Forward 4gms later and 4 consecutive losses

This is part of what was said after today's loss



Every since Little Debbie opened his mouth

Front running like he usually does, we've lost and had


Maybe our worst stretch of play since

Phil knowing he has him here for 4yrs why doesn't Phil


Call him out for what he is and demand he man up and change

How he plays once and for all otherwise they need to discuss his future here


We don't have any PLAYER LEADERSHIP

I agree that Melo is not a "vocal" leader, which I do believe is what keeps him from being a superstar player. He is way too passive on the court, Phil and Fisher need to start calling him out for that. There are times when he is sleepwalking on the court, which should not be tolerated.

When your best player is not willing to do the small stuff, it is hard for others to follow. He needs to be a lot more demanding on the court, and he also needs to spearhead our defense; specifically in second half of games. Giving that he commands max money, if the Knicks are going to be successful, he has to put in the time and effort. Get in the gym earlier than most and work later. Accountability needs to start with him. When the young guys observe his efforts, they will take notes.

We didn't hire him because of his leadership qualities, his job is to score, rebound and pass at and elite level.

The knicks need to hire a leader (and trust me, there's not that many in the NBA). You're only going to get leadership from veterans.

Right Now our leadership should come from Fisher, and until he figures it out consistently, the team will lack confidence when the pressure is on.

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11/10/2014  12:50 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/10/2014  12:50 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:
F500ONE wrote:Non player main issue I'll say our offense

At least for this team is a problem and I'll state


The other lingering issue here


I'm going side bar but check this out

This act of his has gotten way past old


Notice what was said right after the team went 2-1


http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/11816094/carmelo-anthony-says-new-york-knicks-had-bad-energy-last-season

The energy is different this season, Anthony said. And that is one reason the team is off to a 2-1 start.

Carmelo Anthony said the Knicks' energy is different this season, and that's one reason the team has started 2-1.

"I think just overall, not pointing anything out, but just overall from day one last year the energy was just not right," Anthony said after practice on Monday. "This year, you could just feel the total difference stepping into this gym, talking to guys, talking to the staff, talking to the players. Everybody has a newfound energy so it's just a lot different now."


Fast Forward 4gms later and 4 consecutive losses

This is part of what was said after today's loss



Every since Little Debbie opened his mouth

Front running like he usually does, we've lost and had


Maybe our worst stretch of play since

Phil knowing he has him here for 4yrs why doesn't Phil


Call him out for what he is and demand he man up and change

How he plays once and for all otherwise they need to discuss his future here


We don't have any PLAYER LEADERSHIP

I agree that Melo is not a "vocal" leader, which I do believe is what keeps him from being a superstar player. He is way too passive on the court, Phil and Fisher need to start calling him out for that. There are times when he is sleepwalking on the court, which should not be tolerated.

When your best player is not willing to do the small stuff, it is hard for others to follow. He needs to be a lot more demanding on the court, and he also needs to spearhead our defense; specifically in second half of games. Giving that he commands max money, if the Knicks are going to be successful, he has to put in the time and effort. Get in the gym earlier than most and work later. Accountability needs to start with him. When the young guys observe his efforts, they will take notes.

We didn't hire him because of his leadership qualities, his job is to score, rebound and pass at and elite level.

The knicks need to hire a leader (and trust me, there's not that many in the NBA). You're only going to get leadership from veterans.

Right Now our leadership should come from Fisher, and until he figures it out consistently, the team will lack confidence when the pressure is on.

Most players who get paid max money are

Asked and Expected to lead, especially when they are the lone meteor on the team


But you're right we need to find a Giant SIRIUS to help our dwarf meteor

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11/10/2014  1:27 PM
Everyone knows the Knicks true leader is Amare. More Amare less Melo. Amare is finally healthy and ready to produce at a high level. I have said this before that this team goes as Amare goes. Melo's impact is marginal at best. Need to put the best scoring option on the floor more and get him more shots.
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11/10/2014  1:34 PM
Vmart wrote:Everyone knows the Knicks true leader is Amare. More Amare less Melo. Amare is finally healthy and ready to produce at a high level. I have said this before that this team goes as Amare goes. Melo's impact is marginal at best. Need to put the best scoring option on the floor more and get him more shots.

I could not disagree more if you're being serious. How can a player as selfish and clueless as amare possibly be a leader at this stage of his career?

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11/10/2014  1:36 PM
How can he be a leader when Amare doesn't understand half the game, by his own admission no less?! That's crazy.
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11/10/2014  1:36 PM
Vmart wrote:Everyone knows the Knicks true leader is Amare. More Amare less Melo. Amare is finally healthy and ready to produce at a high level. I have said this before that this team goes as Amare goes. Melo's impact is marginal at best. Need to put the best scoring option on the floor more and get him more shots.

Guess the team is going to the disabled list then? I don't understand why people love Amare so much. All people talk about on here is max money deals yet for unknown reasons the Amare deal is neglected and people actually seem ok with it. While is offensive production has been solid, minus the 1 or 2 dribbles off his foot each game, he has been a hot mess at the defensive end. I think they should give him more minutes, but he has to pick it up on defense for them to do that.

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11/10/2014  1:37 PM
Dagger wrote:
Vmart wrote:Everyone knows the Knicks true leader is Amare. More Amare less Melo. Amare is finally healthy and ready to produce at a high level. I have said this before that this team goes as Amare goes. Melo's impact is marginal at best. Need to put the best scoring option on the floor more and get him more shots.

I could not disagree more if you're being serious. How can a player as selfish and clueless as amare possibly be a leader at this stage of his career?

yeah ... smh

this is typical knick fans clueless.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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11/10/2014  2:07 PM
Amare is the embodiment of hard work. While everyone sites his defense I beg to differ with those that call out his defense. This entire team is a defensive mess. Get Amare in there and he will get this team 22-10 on 55% shooting. That's valuable high efficiency play that cannot be wasted. You can hate on Amare but you can not deny that teams will have to game plan for him.
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11/10/2014  2:08 PM
Vmart wrote:Amare is the embodiment of hard work. While everyone sites his defense I beg to differ with those that call out his defense. This entire team is a defensive mess. Get Amare in there and he will get this team 22-10 on 55% shooting. That's valuable high efficiency play that cannot be wasted. You can hate on Amare but you can not deny that teams will have to game plan for him.

the game plan is:

If Amare is guarding you, point left and go right.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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