BTW, its not just "Melo" all by his lonesome. Jordan had a wing man who was a 6-8 lock down perimeter defender. A hell of a luxury BTW. The rest of the team was damn good! They won 55 games without him during his"Sabatical".
Also, does anyone not find the fact the GOAT walked away to play minor league baseball a big freaking weird?

Does Tim Duncan Snarl, cheat on his wive, hit his kids, rape, or get arrested? Nope. Did Jabbar? Could anyone wipe the smile off Magics face? Isiah would kiss him in the finals. Not everyone is a SOB.
Melo is a prolific scorer and his knick team's have been a bit thin on the talent side.

I really don't think Melo and the knicks have been in a position to excel.

5 games into the new era and we are freaking out cuz he had a few bad games? This season might be a throw away as they try to ingrain the Triangle and the culture of movement.

Nalod wrote:Jordan was a sociopath. The media was kind to him and it all worked. Somehow he was protected. Kobe has similar tendencies but was far more insecure.

BTW, its not just "Melo" all by his lonesome. Jordan had a wing man who was a 6-8 lock down perimeter defender. A hell of a luxury BTW. The rest of the team was damn good! They won 55 games without him during his"Sabatical".
Also, does anyone not find the fact the GOAT walked away to play minor league baseball a big freaking weird?

Does Tim Duncan Snarl, cheat on his wive, hit his kids, rape, or get arrested? Nope. Did Jabbar? Could anyone wipe the smile off Magics face? Isiah would kiss him in the finals. Not everyone is a SOB.
Melo is a prolific scorer and his knick team's have been a bit thin on the talent side.

I really don't think Melo and the knicks have been in a position to excel.

5 games into the new era and we are freaking out cuz he had a few bad games? This season might be a throw away as they try to ingrain the Triangle and the culture of movement.

Cue the:
1) Poor Melo, he had no help / he makes no one better around him posts.
1a) Melo had a DPOY/SMOTY sub-posts

2) Melo, the fake WB New Yorker posts

3) Melo's salary versus Duncan's salary economic analysis posts by those who live in a world with actual mortgage payments and jobs without agents and the price of gas. Littered with dollar's per playoff win statistics.

4) Melo, the coach-killing, self-defecating, self-destructive-prophecy-fulfiller why the team around him always sux posts.

Nalod wrote:Jordan was a sociopath. The media was kind to him and it all worked. Somehow he was protected. Kobe has similar tendencies but was far more insecure.

BTW, its not just "Melo" all by his lonesome. Jordan had a wing man who was a 6-8 lock down perimeter defender. A hell of a luxury BTW. The rest of the team was damn good! They won 55 games without him during his"Sabatical".
Also, does anyone not find the fact the GOAT walked away to play minor league baseball a big freaking weird?

Does Tim Duncan Snarl, cheat on his wive, hit his kids, rape, or get arrested? Nope. Did Jabbar? Could anyone wipe the smile off Magics face? Isiah would kiss him in the finals. Not everyone is a SOB.
Melo is a prolific scorer and his knick team's have been a bit thin on the talent side.

I really don't think Melo and the knicks have been in a position to excel.

5 games into the new era and we are freaking out cuz he had a few bad games? This season might be a throw away as they try to ingrain the Triangle and the culture of movement.

Kobe had shaq ... not too shabby.

I would be content if the knicks were losing and at the same time I see signs that Melo (and to a smaller extent Amare) was showing signs of ridding himself of bad habits.

What I don't want to see no matter how few games is Melo missing and looking off wide open teammates so that he can get "his shots".

If we are losing/tanking/rebuilding, let it be a learning and improving experience.

fishmike wrote:Melo. God the microscopic looking up his arse gets old but here's some perspective.

12 years in the league
7x all NBA
7x all star
5x POMonth
18x POWeek

1 losing season (thanks

Now list the BEST players he's played with:
Billups: Went to WFC
Iverson: past his prime, but did have his most EFF% year shooting the ball next to another scorer (.568 TS%)
Amare: hahaha
Nene/KMart: See Billups
bla bla bla

Go ahead and circle jerk and name the rest.

He's a HOF scorer. If we can ever get a couple real players around him we will see the deep playoff runs. If the best guys he plays with in the next couple of years are Marc Gasol and Jose Calderon I expect more of the same results.. winning records and early exits.

He chose this. He could be playing with a cast of characters named Rose, Gibson, Noah, Gasol and Butler.

HIS DAMN CHOICE, so spare us the tears for him not having a good team around him.

He has gotten what he wanted. Money. If winning was his number one priority, he'd be in Chicago.

mreinman wrote:

Splat wrote:

fishmike wrote:Melo. God the microscopic looking up his arse gets old but here's some perspective.

12 years in the league
7x all NBA
7x all star
5x POMonth
18x POWeek

1 losing season (thanks

Now list the BEST players he's played with:
Billups: Went to WFC
Iverson: past his prime, but did have his most EFF% year shooting the ball next to another scorer (.568 TS%)
Amare: hahaha
Nene/KMart: See Billups
bla bla bla

Go ahead and circle jerk and name the rest.

He's a HOF scorer. If we can ever get a couple real players around him we will see the deep playoff runs. If the best guys he plays with in the next couple of years are Marc Gasol and Jose Calderon I expect more of the same results.. winning records and early exits.

He chose this. He could be playing with a cast of characters named Rose, Gibson, Noah, Gasol and Butler.

HIS DAMN CHOICE, so spare us the tears for him not having a good team around him.

He has gotten what he wanted. Money. If winning was his number one priority, he'd be in Chicago.

Very few nobles are gonna leave 50 million on the table.

Hey, that's totally fine, but you don't get to have your cake and eat it too in this case. He chose money over legacy and there is no defense for the silly idea that he couldn't have had better teammates. He is the product of his own desires.

Splat wrote:

fishmike wrote:Melo. God the microscopic looking up his arse gets old but here's some perspective.

12 years in the league
7x all NBA
7x all star
5x POMonth
18x POWeek

1 losing season (thanks

Now list the BEST players he's played with:
Billups: Went to WFC
Iverson: past his prime, but did have his most EFF% year shooting the ball next to another scorer (.568 TS%)
Amare: hahaha
Nene/KMart: See Billups
bla bla bla

Go ahead and circle jerk and name the rest.

He's a HOF scorer. If we can ever get a couple real players around him we will see the deep playoff runs. If the best guys he plays with in the next couple of years are Marc Gasol and Jose Calderon I expect more of the same results.. winning records and early exits.

He chose this. He could be playing with a cast of characters named Rose, Gibson, Noah, Gasol and Butler.

HIS DAMN CHOICE, so spare us the tears for him not having a good team around him.

He has gotten what he wanted. Money. If winning was his number one priority, he'd be in Chicago.

Ha Ha Ha Fishmike using double standard reasoning

Tries to be somewhat balanced with Shump's career

But had many bad things to say about him, why because he doesn't like him

He adores Carmelo though absolutely head over heels in love

Notice he left off

Camby - DPOY
Miller - Stellar Career what is he Top 10 in assist All-Time
Tyson - DPOY
Smith - 6MOY

He lists Melo's meaningless accomplishments and fails to

Acknowledged the guys above he played with who have awards and a niche in the league too

Amar'e made All-Stars and All-NBA teams too as did Iverson-Billups

All-NBA teams look if you're not on the 1st Teams or consistently making the 2nd Team

Then who cares really, why has he missed those teams for nearly half a career

I mean gosh it goes 3 Teams deep

mreinman wrote:

Splat wrote:

fishmike wrote:Melo. God the microscopic looking up his arse gets old but here's some perspective.

12 years in the league
7x all NBA
7x all star
5x POMonth
18x POWeek

1 losing season (thanks

Now list the BEST players he's played with:
Billups: Went to WFC
Iverson: past his prime, but did have his most EFF% year shooting the ball next to another scorer (.568 TS%)
Amare: hahaha
Nene/KMart: See Billups
bla bla bla

Go ahead and circle jerk and name the rest.

He's a HOF scorer. If we can ever get a couple real players around him we will see the deep playoff runs. If the best guys he plays with in the next couple of years are Marc Gasol and Jose Calderon I expect more of the same results.. winning records and early exits.

He chose this. He could be playing with a cast of characters named Rose, Gibson, Noah, Gasol and Butler.

HIS DAMN CHOICE, so spare us the tears for him not having a good team around him.

He has gotten what he wanted. Money. If winning was his number one priority, he'd be in Chicago.

Very few nobles are gonna leave 50 million on the table.

Actually he wouldn't left that much

He could have went to Houston for $90 if we're discussing better teams

So none of those teams increase the offers via S&T

To get money for Chubba The Gut

Conversely it shows those other teams didn't think

He was worth your $50mil difference to contact Phil and go all in

F500ONE wrote:

Splat wrote:

fishmike wrote:Melo. God the microscopic looking up his arse gets old but here's some perspective.

12 years in the league
7x all NBA
7x all star
5x POMonth
18x POWeek

1 losing season (thanks

Now list the BEST players he's played with:
Billups: Went to WFC
Iverson: past his prime, but did have his most EFF% year shooting the ball next to another scorer (.568 TS%)
Amare: hahaha
Nene/KMart: See Billups
bla bla bla

Go ahead and circle jerk and name the rest.

He's a HOF scorer. If we can ever get a couple real players around him we will see the deep playoff runs. If the best guys he plays with in the next couple of years are Marc Gasol and Jose Calderon I expect more of the same results.. winning records and early exits.

He chose this. He could be playing with a cast of characters named Rose, Gibson, Noah, Gasol and Butler.

HIS DAMN CHOICE, so spare us the tears for him not having a good team around him.

He has gotten what he wanted. Money. If winning was his number one priority, he'd be in Chicago.

Camby - DPOY
Miller - Stellar Career what is he Top 10 in assist All-Time
Tyson - DPOY
Smith - 6MOY

Here where I call bullsh1t and again you are killing your credible arguments with this stupidity.

Camby was a good defender but a horrible offensive player

Miller ... a stellar career? Seriously?

Tyson - DPOY? Do you know why he was DPOY?

Smith?? Never mind

Iverson?? Iverson? Really? Check what he did in the playoffs before throwing his name out there.

His best team and only one with a viable "other" option was with CB and they got to the WCF and had very little chance of beating the lakers though they gave them a scare.

BALANCE!!

I call out Melo all the time but I try not to make claims that make zero sense. I hate these biased arguments.

Denver won 57 games without him and fizzled in the playoffs without him. Maybe in the end its a "George Karl thing"? Can coach a gaudy record but team not geared to playoff runs?

NCAA chip showed some grit.

I think the real blame is on expectations to those Mooby nut hugging hero worshipping lovers who took the starphuch probe and ran with it thinking Melo was the savior.
Hate the Mooby worshipper?

WHile I don't think Melo deserved any of the Iconic savior treatment thrusted upon him, I don't think he deserves the scorn of hate from some of you. Seems like some of you got some other issues other than Melo's shooting %.

Right now only Lebron can elevate a team on his back. Not even Durant can do that. Seems the Melo haters are very impressionable to the likes of Isola and other Media midgets who sell headlines.
I don't love Melo, but the hate is really not warranted.