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Shumpert vs. THJ


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mreinman
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who has the brighter future?

I think that they are both way overrated (shump less since he has already crashed).

THJ is streaky and Shump rarely has any streaks.

Shump plays very solid defense while THJ was trained by Amare.

THJ maybe the worst rebounding guard that I have ever seen. In order to get so few rebounds you would need to put on handcuffs and a blind fold and also party with JR the night before.

We can still dream about THJ but our dreams will probably turn into a nightmare like the rest of them.

Btw, Barkley thinks that THJ will be great. He does not stop saying that even if the conversation is about cows.

Kenny: "hey chuck, I bought two cows yesterday"
Chuck: "thas great kenn-eh ... that tim har-away jew-yor zzz-gonna be a great player"

Shumpert
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mreinman
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11/5/2014  10:21 PM
TPercy wrote:Honestly, Josh Smith is better than these guys combined.

terrible joke

so here is what phil is thinking ....
AUTOADVERT
Splat
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11/5/2014  10:22 PM
mreinman wrote:THJ has 1 rebound this season!!!

It was a big rebound!

I've got a fever and the only prescription is more cowbell!
F500ONE
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11/5/2014  10:22 PM
But THJR had a good TS% tonight, what about the TS?

And had better contributions at the 2


Vs all guards this preseason yet it didn't matter

Angendas are always strong

mreinman
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11/5/2014  10:24 PM
F500ONE wrote:But THJR had a good TS% tonight, what about the TS?

And had better contributions at the 2


Vs all guards this preseason yet it didn't matter

Angendas are always strong

read what I wrote. He is feast or famine with his shots. When have I ever said otherwise.

Where is my agenda? Worry about your own agenda ... you are making no sense.

What about TS? Are you a little challenged?

so here is what phil is thinking ....
mreinman
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11/5/2014  10:24 PM
F500ONE wrote:But THJR had a good TS% tonight, what about the TS?

And had better contributions at the 2


Vs all guards this preseason yet it didn't matter

Angendas are always strong

oh ...

preseason?

that

is

great

so here is what phil is thinking ....
mreinman
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11/5/2014  10:25 PM
btw, his TS was 66 being that it interests you.

next game it will be 25.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
Splat
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11/5/2014  10:25 PM
THJ = NEW MELO
I've got a fever and the only prescription is more cowbell!
mreinman
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11/5/2014  10:27 PM
Splat wrote:THJ = NEW MELO

maybe when he gets his second rebound next month we can group them.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
mreinman
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11/5/2014  10:29 PM
is there a reason why shump keeps hitting the back of the rim on his dunk attempts?

he did it again tonight.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
Splat
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11/5/2014  10:38 PM
mreinman wrote:is there a reason why shump keeps hitting the back of the rim on his dunk attempts?

he did it again tonight.

He needs to watch Deep Throat. The key to not choking is to RELAX

I've got a fever and the only prescription is more cowbell!
newyorknewyork
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11/5/2014  10:56 PM
F500ONE wrote:
mreinman wrote:I am not crazy about either of them and never have been fickle about this.

Neither am I but I have the

Eye test and the quotes to back this up


How this fan base has Heads-Tails on this


"Oh No We Can't Trade THJR for Kyle Lowry

They Can Have Felton and Shump but not THJR..."


lol

There was a point in time when fans didn't want to trade Frye for Garnettt. What can we say, we love rookies.

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11/5/2014  11:42 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/5/2014  11:46 PM
2 completely different players that play the same position

Apples

or

Oranges

Is the Better Fruit?


Answer: Bananas


I don't see Tim Hardaway becoming a good defender like Klay Thompson can be
However, Iman Shumpert already a solid defender but still has a lot of developing to do

Can Iman become a Courtney Lee/Tony Allen type defender with better OFFENSE?
If Iman can become a similar player to what Avery Bradley is developing in to, he will get a decent pay day
However, he might need another year or 2 of hard training/working as he his development was hindered by his injury and Woodson's lack of system and playing him out of position

Tim Hardaway JR, looks like he wants to develop to a JR Smith/Jamal Crawford type player, a 6th man role of instinct OFFENSE
Because he is locked in to his rookie contract for a couple more years, he likely holds much more trade value
With our lack of asset's, he surely is a player that teams would have interest in with a trade, hopefully even overpay a bit

In the end, it depends on fit/role/system and the players that are on the team
Also Iman is heading to RFA this summer while Tim Hardaway JR is locked in for a couple more years so it is hard to determine right now, as Iman's value could increase greatly in the market with players
However, his trade value is lower and does not match his value to his contributions on the court

In either situation, I don't think ANY of our SG's are a must keep, as players G/F's like Gereld Green/Danny Green/KJ McDaniels are headed to UFA this summer
Jeff Green is a player that would cost much more

As for Briggs post on CA playing PF
Some cheap fixes would be Shawnee Williams that can play both SF/PF
Matt Barnes for the vet min as a veteran tough SF
If we want to spend a bit, maybe Thad Young/Rudy Gay trade for Josh Smith *either with AB, or Calderon and change in the summer*

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11/5/2014  11:44 PM
Oh snap! He played the fruit question!
I've got a fever and the only prescription is more cowbell!
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11/5/2014  11:59 PM
Timmy is my boy, gotta stick with him. He proved his value tonight.
Dagger
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11/6/2014  12:03 AM
mreinman wrote:THJ has 1 rebound this season!!!

He hasn't played many minutes, be objective. Yes his rebounding is piss poor, but I'm not sure he's played 40 min yet...

Splat
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11/6/2014  3:38 AM
Dagger wrote:
mreinman wrote:THJ has 1 rebound this season!!!

He hasn't played many minutes, be objective. Yes his rebounding is piss poor, but I'm not sure he's played 40 min yet...

That's nothing. I had a game on the TV and the announcers mentioned Kyrie had gone 7 quarters without an assist. I mean wow

I've got a fever and the only prescription is more cowbell!
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11/6/2014  5:02 AM
Shumpert is a perfect compliment to Melo. This makes him more valuable than THJ or JR. He is pretty damn good defensively and has been shooting a very high % this season. If he can pass the ball a little better, he will be a perfect person to bring on the court with Melo.
A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.
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11/6/2014  9:06 AM
Grab a damn rebound Timmy. You think accidentally the basketball would fall in his lap. Stop cherry picking.
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11/6/2014  9:19 AM
Silverfuel wrote:Shumpert is a perfect compliment to Melo. This makes him more valuable than THJ or JR. He is pretty damn good defensively and has been shooting a very high % this season. If he can pass the ball a little better, he will be a perfect person to bring on the court with Melo.

I'm getting tired of this being said of our players

Maybe this is part of the reason we haven't been that good

F500ONE
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11/6/2014  9:28 AM
Why is it okay to criticize THJR

For not grabbing rebounds in his 2nd yr 4gms in


But it was okay for Shumpert to

Not develop a consistent jump shot 4yrs and counting

Shumpert vs. THJ

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