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GustavBahler
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10/4/2014  7:48 PM
F500ONE wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
F500ONE wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
F500ONE wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:After some words that I'm pretty sure Melo wishes he could take back, he says some things I find it encouraging like not wanting to always being the focal point of the offense. Also like that he will play SF next season. Less wear and tear.


"I didn't want to have to do it night in and night out," Anthony explained. "I wanted some nights when somebody else can pick up the load.


Should have learned to develop trust

Over the yrs in your teammates


And inspire them to do more

I guess after 13yrs and shooting to your


Hearts content it starts sinking in

As for not trusting his teammates, Im pretty sure I was one of the first if not the first person on this board to point that out so I agree with you. There were times however as a Knick when his teammates did absolutely nothing to earn that trust and Melo carrying the load was the only way we won games. We'll see what happens next season.


Wholeheartedly disagree other way around

The team trusted him to close out games


Past 2 seasons, never giving up in his ability to do so

The results were catastrophic failure


What were the stats again Melo in the clutch

Wasn't this part of his calling card while in Denver


Also what he did in Denver can't be transposed

As if he's done this for the Knicks///// see above


He's put in almost status quo

For Melo standards while here


Part of the problem was Melo leading the league in minutes, or coming in second. By the time the 4th quarter came around he didn't have enough left in the tank. It didn't help that Woodson's only play late in the game was clear out and dump the ball to Melo, not even any misdirection to keep the defense guessing. If his teammates had stepped up more at times last season he wouldn't have had to log so many minutes. Like I said, I agree that Melo took too much on his plate at times, but there were also times when it was necessary, like when a lead was becoming insurmountable and Melo was sharing the rock but his teammates weren't doing anything with it.

Maybe he should have trusted his

Teammates to close out games


Since he put in yeoman's work for the 2 1/2 qrts

Glad to know we've been paying him lavish salary


For 4 and half yrs to only do 1 thing he's supposedly

Best Pure at 60% of the time he's on the court


Woodson was drawing up the same plays

2012-2013 to 2013-2014


Play darts without the blindfold on is my advice


Woodson is the one who wanted Melo to close out games. Put that on the coach who made that his game plan, not the player who followed it. You're blaming Melo for logging more minutes than anyone in the league, save for one person, with a bad shoulder to boot, and faulting him for not providing peak performance for 4 quarters in spite of this. Nothing about his teammates who made that necessary. I have criticized Melo plenty of times, but all you do is throw darts at him regardless.

We get it you don't like him. Makes having a conversation with someone who believes that everything he does is wrong pointless. Just change your name when you wear out your welcome again, I guess.

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10/4/2014  7:55 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
F500ONE wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
F500ONE wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
F500ONE wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:After some words that I'm pretty sure Melo wishes he could take back, he says some things I find it encouraging like not wanting to always being the focal point of the offense. Also like that he will play SF next season. Less wear and tear.


"I didn't want to have to do it night in and night out," Anthony explained. "I wanted some nights when somebody else can pick up the load.


Should have learned to develop trust

Over the yrs in your teammates


And inspire them to do more

I guess after 13yrs and shooting to your


Hearts content it starts sinking in

As for not trusting his teammates, Im pretty sure I was one of the first if not the first person on this board to point that out so I agree with you. There were times however as a Knick when his teammates did absolutely nothing to earn that trust and Melo carrying the load was the only way we won games. We'll see what happens next season.


Wholeheartedly disagree other way around

The team trusted him to close out games


Past 2 seasons, never giving up in his ability to do so

The results were catastrophic failure


What were the stats again Melo in the clutch

Wasn't this part of his calling card while in Denver


Also what he did in Denver can't be transposed

As if he's done this for the Knicks///// see above


He's put in almost status quo

For Melo standards while here


Part of the problem was Melo leading the league in minutes, or coming in second. By the time the 4th quarter came around he didn't have enough left in the tank. It didn't help that Woodson's only play late in the game was clear out and dump the ball to Melo, not even any misdirection to keep the defense guessing. If his teammates had stepped up more at times last season he wouldn't have had to log so many minutes. Like I said, I agree that Melo took too much on his plate at times, but there were also times when it was necessary, like when a lead was becoming insurmountable and Melo was sharing the rock but his teammates weren't doing anything with it.

Maybe he should have trusted his

Teammates to close out games


Since he put in yeoman's work for the 2 1/2 qrts

Glad to know we've been paying him lavish salary


For 4 and half yrs to only do 1 thing he's supposedly

Best Pure at 60% of the time he's on the court


Woodson was drawing up the same plays

2012-2013 to 2013-2014


Play darts without the blindfold on is my advice


Woodson is the one who wanted Melo to close out games. Put that on the coach who made that his game plan, not the player who followed it. You're blaming Melo for logging more minutes than anyone in the league, save for one person, with a bad shoulder to boot, and faulting him for not providing peak performance for 4 quarters in spite of this. Nothing about his teammates who made that necessary. I have criticized Melo plenty of times, but all you do is throw darts at him regardless.

We get it you don't like him. Makes having a conversation with someone who believes that everything he does is wrong pointless. Just change your name when you wear out your welcome again, I guess.

No others are at fault

The key is, Melo is not blameless


I'm happy Tyson and Felton aren't here

And Woodson to a lesser degree, although


Woodson should have remained a defensive coach

Clippers have him located in the correct lane


It's the same thing the Jets are currently struggling with


In Rex Ryan, some guys it's pretty obvious what their

Strengths and Weaknesses are


We can't do anything about Melo at this point

Hopefully Phil addresses remaining faulty players

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10/4/2014  7:56 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/4/2014  7:57 PM
dk7th wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
F500ONE wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:After some words that I'm pretty sure Melo wishes he could take back, he says some things I find it encouraging like not wanting to always being the focal point of the offense. Also like that he will play SF next season. Less wear and tear.


"I didn't want to have to do it night in and night out," Anthony explained. "I wanted some nights when somebody else can pick up the load.


Should have learned to develop trust

Over the yrs in your teammates


And inspire them to do more

I guess after 13yrs and shooting to your


Hearts content it starts sinking in

As for not trusting his teammates, Im pretty sure I was one of the first if not the first person on this board to point that out so I agree with you. There were times however as a Knick when his teammates did absolutely nothing to earn that trust and Melo carrying the load was the only way we won games. We'll see what happens next season.

yeah it must suck for melo to not have the tools to make others around him better, the proper conditioning to close out games, and the leadership skills necessary for leading a team. boo fvck1n hoo mr. 124 million

lets blame the coaches, lets blame the players.

is melo responsible for any of his failures, ever? what abut failings? does he have any?

geezus here we go again

Here we go again? Riiight. I have criticized melo plenty of times. I can see what he does right at times and what he does wrong. You choose only to focus on what he does wrong. Who is being objective here? Sure isn't you.

Did melo have the proper conditioning to lead the league minutes (or come 2nd) with a bad shoulder, and carry the offense when his team couldn't do jack? No he didn't. Lets break out the guillotine.

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10/4/2014  8:18 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
dk7th wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
F500ONE wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:After some words that I'm pretty sure Melo wishes he could take back, he says some things I find it encouraging like not wanting to always being the focal point of the offense. Also like that he will play SF next season. Less wear and tear.


"I didn't want to have to do it night in and night out," Anthony explained. "I wanted some nights when somebody else can pick up the load.


Should have learned to develop trust

Over the yrs in your teammates


And inspire them to do more

I guess after 13yrs and shooting to your


Hearts content it starts sinking in

As for not trusting his teammates, Im pretty sure I was one of the first if not the first person on this board to point that out so I agree with you. There were times however as a Knick when his teammates did absolutely nothing to earn that trust and Melo carrying the load was the only way we won games. We'll see what happens next season.

yeah it must suck for melo to not have the tools to make others around him better, the proper conditioning to close out games, and the leadership skills necessary for leading a team. boo fvck1n hoo mr. 124 million

lets blame the coaches, lets blame the players.

is melo responsible for any of his failures, ever? what abut failings? does he have any?

geezus here we go again

Here we go again? Riiight. I have criticized melo plenty of times. I can see what he does right at times and what he does wrong. You choose only to focus on what he does wrong. Who is being objective here? Sure isn't you.

Did melo have the proper conditioning to lead the league minutes (or come 2nd) with a bad shoulder, and carry the offense when his team couldn't do jack? No he didn't. Lets break out the guillotine.

Also Clyde said he is was in supreme condition last year during a game. You have to watch the games to catch gems like that.
I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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10/4/2014  8:19 PM
Newsday covered the same conversation Melo had with the the press as espn. I like this quote from Melo'
"It makes me a better player, makes everybody a better player, makes us smarter, makes us make the right decisions. I think we're going to surprise a lot of people with the way we play."
I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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10/5/2014  3:07 AM
CrushAlot wrote:Newsday covered the same conversation Melo had with the the press as espn. I like this quote from Melo'
"It makes me a better player, makes everybody a better player, makes us smarter, makes us make the right decisions. I think we're going to surprise a lot of people with the way we play."

Crush how dare you post full quotes that sound reasonable and positive!!! Who do you think you are? We now have a leadership team full of champions showing our players exactly how they prepared for the season and the culture needed to win. Why should that matter as long as we have Melo it can't possibly work cuz well ... He says dumb stuff!!!

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10/5/2014  7:19 AM
CrushAlot wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
dk7th wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
F500ONE wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:After some words that I'm pretty sure Melo wishes he could take back, he says some things I find it encouraging like not wanting to always being the focal point of the offense. Also like that he will play SF next season. Less wear and tear.


"I didn't want to have to do it night in and night out," Anthony explained. "I wanted some nights when somebody else can pick up the load.


Should have learned to develop trust

Over the yrs in your teammates


And inspire them to do more

I guess after 13yrs and shooting to your


Hearts content it starts sinking in

As for not trusting his teammates, Im pretty sure I was one of the first if not the first person on this board to point that out so I agree with you. There were times however as a Knick when his teammates did absolutely nothing to earn that trust and Melo carrying the load was the only way we won games. We'll see what happens next season.

yeah it must suck for melo to not have the tools to make others around him better, the proper conditioning to close out games, and the leadership skills necessary for leading a team. boo fvck1n hoo mr. 124 million

lets blame the coaches, lets blame the players.

is melo responsible for any of his failures, ever? what abut failings? does he have any?

geezus here we go again

Here we go again? Riiight. I have criticized melo plenty of times. I can see what he does right at times and what he does wrong. You choose only to focus on what he does wrong. Who is being objective here? Sure isn't you.

Did melo have the proper conditioning to lead the league minutes (or come 2nd) with a bad shoulder, and carry the offense when his team couldn't do jack? No he didn't. Lets break out the guillotine.

Also Clyde said he is was in supreme condition last year during a game. You have to watch the games to catch gems like that.

I don't understand how people can know how many minutes he put in and still say he was in bad condition. The guy looked like he was close to death at the end of the Bobcats 60pt game, but fu*k him for not trying harder.

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10/5/2014  8:40 AM
GetThePipe wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
dk7th wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
F500ONE wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:After some words that I'm pretty sure Melo wishes he could take back, he says some things I find it encouraging like not wanting to always being the focal point of the offense. Also like that he will play SF next season. Less wear and tear.


"I didn't want to have to do it night in and night out," Anthony explained. "I wanted some nights when somebody else can pick up the load.


Should have learned to develop trust

Over the yrs in your teammates


And inspire them to do more

I guess after 13yrs and shooting to your


Hearts content it starts sinking in

As for not trusting his teammates, Im pretty sure I was one of the first if not the first person on this board to point that out so I agree with you. There were times however as a Knick when his teammates did absolutely nothing to earn that trust and Melo carrying the load was the only way we won games. We'll see what happens next season.

yeah it must suck for melo to not have the tools to make others around him better, the proper conditioning to close out games, and the leadership skills necessary for leading a team. boo fvck1n hoo mr. 124 million

lets blame the coaches, lets blame the players.

is melo responsible for any of his failures, ever? what abut failings? does he have any?

geezus here we go again

Here we go again? Riiight. I have criticized melo plenty of times. I can see what he does right at times and what he does wrong. You choose only to focus on what he does wrong. Who is being objective here? Sure isn't you.

Did melo have the proper conditioning to lead the league minutes (or come 2nd) with a bad shoulder, and carry the offense when his team couldn't do jack? No he didn't. Lets break out the guillotine.

Also Clyde said he is was in supreme condition last year during a game. You have to watch the games to catch gems like that.

I don't understand how people can know how many minutes he put in and still say he was in bad condition. The guy looked like he was close to death at the end of the Bobcats 60pt game, but fu*k him for not trying harder.


He had the same look steph Curry had when he played a back to back against the Pacers and then the Knicks. Still have to play the game.
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10/5/2014  9:09 AM
GustavBahler wrote:After some words that I'm pretty sure Melo wishes he could take back, he says some things I find it encouraging like not wanting to always being the focal point of the offense. Also like that he will play SF next season. Less wear and tear.

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/11640612/carmelo-anthony-new-york-knicks-roster-we-have

GREENBURGH, N.Y. -- Carmelo Anthony believes the triangle system will alleviate some of the pressure on him to carry the New York Knicks but he admits he will have to wait until president Phil Jackson can find the team more help.

While Anthony believes he will benefit from Jackson and coach Derek Fisher's system, the Knicks star knows that this current roster can use some more talent.

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AP Photo/Mike GrollCarmelo Anthony is seeing the benefit of the triangle system.

"For this season, right now, we have what we have," Anthony said when asked if he feels he has the help he is looking for. "We're going to deal with that. That was a big discussion with me and Phil -- that was one of my things."

During free agency, Anthony told Jackson that he wanted and needed help. Anthony spurned the Chicago Bulls, Houston Rockets, Dallas Mavericks and Los Angeles Lakers to re-sign with the Knicks to the tune of five years, $124 million.

He put his trust in Jackson that the Knicks president will be able to find him more help when the team has cap space next summer.

"I didn't want to have to do it night in and night out," Anthony explained. "I wanted some nights when somebody else can pick up the load. Right now, with the way we're playing [in training camp], I don't have to do everything. But we haven't played one game. ... So we'll see what happens."

The Knicks star does think that the triangle will help him win while alleviating the burden of carrying the load like he has in the past.

"It will be less pressure on me," Anthony said of playing in the system. "I can see that now in training camp. I feel that. I can see what we're able to do with the little bit of time we've been together this week. I see other guys' roles and how they're implemented into the system and what they're capable of doing."

"I think it'll be easier," he added. "It's still going to be a dogfight [this season], but I think it'll be a little bit easier where everybody is not keying in and focusing on me every single time down the court. Now you put the pressure on everybody else, have to guard their man and there's movement. It's a good thing."

Anthony does think that this current roster has enough power forwards and that he will play small forward this season in the triangle after playing a lot at the four in the last two seasons.

"We got too many," he said of the power forwards on the Knicks roster. "I don't need to go down there and battle. For what?"

"If it comes down to it, I'll go back there, but I doubt it," Anthony added. "They're going to move me down there. ... I think in this system more than anything playing on the wing is where I like to be -- playing in the post is where I like to be -- and the way we play we're all over the court, so you never know where you're going to get the ball."

This is probably the most important part of the article.

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10/5/2014  10:00 AM
What a way to toss teammates under the bus...again. as a fan i can say this team lacks talent...but the star player shouldnt be saying that publicly.
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10/5/2014  10:33 AM
I read that statement "we have what we have" and the first thing that goes through my mind is is oh boy. Melo really needs to STFU, he really has to learn leadership, your not going to win teammates with verbiage like that, essentially he is throwing everyone on the team under the bus and absolving himself and separating himself from the others. And then I think probably covering up for Melo. That he just doesn't know what he is saying. He thinks he is being clever, like I said before he needs to step away from branding. Focus on team and basketball. Enough with interviews he is simply not good at interviews. He doesn't realize his words have meaning they can be positive or negative.

I Wish Melo would just stop with the interviews. Don't be brand be bland. It's very easy to say positive things about you teammates regardless of what you think. Say good things build them up.

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10/5/2014  10:36 AM    LAST EDITED: 10/5/2014  10:37 AM
Vmart wrote:I read that statement "we have what we have" and the first thing that goes through my mind is is oh boy. Melo really needs to STFU, he really has to learn leadership, your not going to win teammates with verbiage like that, essentially he is throwing everyone on the team under the bus and absolving himself and separating himself from the others. And then I think probably covering up for Melo. That he just doesn't know what he is saying. He thinks he is being clever, like I said before he needs to step away from branding. Focus on team and basketball. Enough with interviews he is simply not good at interviews. He doesn't realize his words have meaning they can be positive or negative.

I Wish Melo would just stop with the interviews. Don't be brand be bland. It's very easy to say positive things about you teammates regardless of what you think. Say good things build them up.

he is not capable of that. he has disturbing mental issues there is no doubt. arod has similar issues. it's not fair that they are both in new york.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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Vmart wrote:I read that statement "we have what we have" and the first thing that goes through my mind is is oh boy. Melo really needs to STFU, he really has to learn leadership, your not going to win teammates with verbiage like that, essentially he is throwing everyone on the team under the bus and absolving himself and separating himself from the others. And then I think probably covering up for Melo. That he just doesn't know what he is saying. He thinks he is being clever, like I said before he needs to step away from branding. Focus on team and basketball. Enough with interviews he is simply not good at interviews. He doesn't realize his words have meaning they can be positive or negative.

I Wish Melo would just stop with the interviews. Don't be brand be bland. It's very easy to say positive things about you teammates regardless of what you think. Say good things build them up.

Or maybe YOU need to learn to shut STFU! If everything he says annoys you, why do you keep reading what he says?

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10/5/2014  11:52 AM
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Vmart wrote:I read that statement "we have what we have" and the first thing that goes through my mind is is oh boy. Melo really needs to STFU, he really has to learn leadership, your not going to win teammates with verbiage like that, essentially he is throwing everyone on the team under the bus and absolving himself and separating himself from the others. And then I think probably covering up for Melo. That he just doesn't know what he is saying. He thinks he is being clever, like I said before he needs to step away from branding. Focus on team and basketball. Enough with interviews he is simply not good at interviews. He doesn't realize his words have meaning they can be positive or negative.

I Wish Melo would just stop with the interviews. Don't be brand be bland. It's very easy to say positive things about you teammates regardless of what you think. Say good things build them up.

Or maybe YOU need to learn to shut STFU! If everything he says annoys you, why do you keep reading what he says?

I'm a Melo supporter. But I support the Knicks first statement made like this doesn't do the team any good. As a guy who supports his talent it annoys me to see a player basically hurt his own talent level this has an affect on the team. Aren't we as fans concerned about the Knicks as a team.

Let me just STFU let's hope Melo can do the same.

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Vmart wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
Vmart wrote:I read that statement "we have what we have" and the first thing that goes through my mind is is oh boy. Melo really needs to STFU, he really has to learn leadership, your not going to win teammates with verbiage like that, essentially he is throwing everyone on the team under the bus and absolving himself and separating himself from the others. And then I think probably covering up for Melo. That he just doesn't know what he is saying. He thinks he is being clever, like I said before he needs to step away from branding. Focus on team and basketball. Enough with interviews he is simply not good at interviews. He doesn't realize his words have meaning they can be positive or negative.

I Wish Melo would just stop with the interviews. Don't be brand be bland. It's very easy to say positive things about you teammates regardless of what you think. Say good things build them up.

Or maybe YOU need to learn to shut STFU! If everything he says annoys you, why do you keep reading what he says?

I'm a Melo supporter. But I support the Knicks first statement made like this doesn't do the team any good. As a guy who supports his talent it annoys me to see a player basically hurt his own talent level this has an affect on the team. Aren't we as fans concerned about the Knicks as a team.

Let me just STFU let's hope Melo can do the same.

I did kind of wince when I first read his comments, as I've never been a fan of players telling the rest of their team that they're above them (see Hardens comments a few weeks ago), but I think I don't get too wound up about what he says because I've learned to accept Melo just isn't a leader- he isn't going to say anything profound, or wise or anything that motivates his team. Some good players just don't have leadership abilities, there's no shame in that. It means from time to time he'll say and do stuff that will irritate, not out of malice or anything, just because he doesn't always think about the impact that stuff might have on his teammates.

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10/5/2014  12:02 PM
I respect honesty...I like a player who tells it like it is, good or bad..I'm a big Yankee fan but just couldn't get Jeter...I watched him from his rookie campaign and have no clue who he really is..Some people like that kind of thing..Some people don't mind being lied to or like seeing a player pretend to be something he is not...Red pill or blue pill??..
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10/5/2014  1:01 PM
holfresh wrote:I respect honesty...I like a player who tells it like it is, good or bad..I'm a big Yankee fan but just couldn't get Jeter...I watched him from his rookie campaign and have no clue who he really is..Some people like that kind of thing..Some people don't mind being lied to or like seeing a player pretend to be something he is not...Red pill or blue pill??..

Some? Have you paid any attention? Jeter's like the most popular human in the world right now!
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10/5/2014  1:17 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
holfresh wrote:I respect honesty...I like a player who tells it like it is, good or bad..I'm a big Yankee fan but just couldn't get Jeter...I watched him from his rookie campaign and have no clue who he really is..Some people like that kind of thing..Some people don't mind being lied to or like seeing a player pretend to be something he is not...Red pill or blue pill??..

Some? Have you paid any attention? Jeter's like the most popular human in the world right now!

I am a very big Yankee fan but I never really bought into Jeters personality.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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10/5/2014  3:28 PM
dk7th wrote:
Vmart wrote:I read that statement "we have what we have" and the first thing that goes through my mind is is oh boy. Melo really needs to STFU, he really has to learn leadership, your not going to win teammates with verbiage like that, essentially he is throwing everyone on the team under the bus and absolving himself and separating himself from the others. And then I think probably covering up for Melo. That he just doesn't know what he is saying. He thinks he is being clever, like I said before he needs to step away from branding. Focus on team and basketball. Enough with interviews he is simply not good at interviews. He doesn't realize his words have meaning they can be positive or negative.

I Wish Melo would just stop with the interviews. Don't be brand be bland. It's very easy to say positive things about you teammates regardless of what you think. Say good things build them up.

he is not capable of that. he has disturbing mental issues there is no doubt. arod has similar issues. it's not fair that they are both in new york.


Yeah he's probably somewhere Trademarking and Patenting

"Olympic Melo" and "MeloLite"


Once secured he'll look for Distribution and Licensing

Melo: 'We have what we have'

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