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NardDogNation
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10/3/2014  5:25 PM
Nalod wrote:Maybe you should slow down instead of blaming the system, judges, white chicks and take ownership in it!

Your speeding and you keep getting pulled like your a victim!

municipalities need the revenue. Of course the Judges are in on it! The municipalities pay their salary!!!
The Laywers get clients, the court clerks get paid, etc etc..........

Your a smart fellow and you know all this but still you speed? You continue to do the activity then expect a different result?
Slow down, not because its the law, or the right thing to do, but because you have better things to do with your money!!!

The system can go and suck a big black dick. I was in control of both myself and my vehicle and at no point did I pose a danger to myself or others on the road. With the ridiculous **** that they permit in this knuckledragging state, my "speeding" should be the least of their concerns.

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NardDogNation
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10/3/2014  5:33 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/3/2014  5:34 PM
Nalod wrote:
arkrud wrote:I was driving 97 on Turnpike NJ in 55 mile zone...
Get stopped and officer told me if I will not go to court he will give me "Did not obey NJ turnpike traffic signs". This was 2 points and $110 at a time (3 years back).
I stopped right away, confessed to all officer said and was very polite.
So I agreed to not go to court. He told me to slow down and have a nice day.
Since then I am not driving faster that 10-15 miles over the limit and try to stay in the pack.
Also I am always watching for cups and never try to cut the distance to next car packs too fast.
So no tickets since... good willing...
also get stopped locally driving 65 in 35 mile zone... We talked with officer about Rangers game and that the Knicks sucks.
He gave me a ticket for not having insurance paper with me ($65)... and let me go.
Be nice man and they will be nice to you.

I usually just tell the truth and not act hostile or upset. Few months ago I got pulled and told the guy I was heading to a buisness function and as running late. He said "hang on, we'll get you their in time". He checked I was clean (no points, warrents) and let me off with a warning.

I always:

PUll over so they are safe, it relax's them if they don't have to be too close to traffic.
Open my windows so when they approach the car they can see who is in it, and my hands on the wheel.
I let him/her know I do not carry any weapons and my wallet is in my jacket,and registration is in the box. This way he understands my movements.

Cops get killed in stops and are nervous. They might be pricks and arrogant but sometimes they are good people as well and have families to go home to. IN any event I want them to do me a favor and I can dictate (sometimes) how the stop is going to go.

Its interesting that I follow your protocol to the letter and have yet to meet so generous an officer. Hell, the ******* that most recently pulled me over was threatening to draw on me because I had the audacity to let him know that I was reaching for my wallet, in my back pocket with my right hand before actually doing so. So **** him and **** his profession. Police officers only have the 10th most dangerous job in the country and it wasn't like anyone forced them into it. Maybe he should've focused more on not being a high school burnout and aspire to more than $38,000/yr, trying to be some fake-ass Rambo.

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10/3/2014  9:19 PM
It's hard to resist, but just don't speed. I never go above more than 10 over anymore. Hell, I drive like an old lady now half the time.
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10/3/2014  10:19 PM
NardDogNation wrote:
Nalod wrote:
arkrud wrote:I was driving 97 on Turnpike NJ in 55 mile zone...
Get stopped and officer told me if I will not go to court he will give me "Did not obey NJ turnpike traffic signs". This was 2 points and $110 at a time (3 years back).
I stopped right away, confessed to all officer said and was very polite.
So I agreed to not go to court. He told me to slow down and have a nice day.
Since then I am not driving faster that 10-15 miles over the limit and try to stay in the pack.
Also I am always watching for cups and never try to cut the distance to next car packs too fast.
So no tickets since... good willing...
also get stopped locally driving 65 in 35 mile zone... We talked with officer about Rangers game and that the Knicks sucks.
He gave me a ticket for not having insurance paper with me ($65)... and let me go.
Be nice man and they will be nice to you.

I usually just tell the truth and not act hostile or upset. Few months ago I got pulled and told the guy I was heading to a buisness function and as running late. He said "hang on, we'll get you their in time". He checked I was clean (no points, warrents) and let me off with a warning.

I always:

PUll over so they are safe, it relax's them if they don't have to be too close to traffic.
Open my windows so when they approach the car they can see who is in it, and my hands on the wheel.
I let him/her know I do not carry any weapons and my wallet is in my jacket,and registration is in the box. This way he understands my movements.

Cops get killed in stops and are nervous. They might be pricks and arrogant but sometimes they are good people as well and have families to go home to. IN any event I want them to do me a favor and I can dictate (sometimes) how the stop is going to go.

Its interesting that I follow your protocol to the letter and have yet to meet so generous an officer. Hell, the ******* that most recently pulled me over was threatening to draw on me because I had the audacity to let him know that I was reaching for my wallet, in my back pocket with my right hand before actually doing so. So **** him and **** his profession. Police officers only have the 10th most dangerous job in the country and it wasn't like anyone forced them into it. Maybe he should've focused more on not being a high school burnout and aspire to more than $38,000/yr, trying to be some fake-ass Rambo.

Hmmmm. I have my Bachelors Degree, and as far as the 38k I make about three times that, not to mention in a few years I can retire and enjoy my free health care and 50% pay for the rest of my life at the ripe old age of 44.

I understand people being upset about receiving an expensive summons (Ive gotten a few myself), but considering you are a habitual offender I don't understand why you would expect a break. How about you STOP SPEEDING and OBEY THE LAW and then maybe you wont have to be fined.

And if the way you conduct yourself in this thread is any indication of how you treated this man who is DOING HIS JOB then Im shocked that he didnt tag with more violations.

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Nalod
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10/4/2014  8:02 AM
Nard, your distain must be written all over your face no matter how you try.

Stay angry, it will work in your favor one day. Until then, slow down.

NardDogNation
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10/4/2014  1:31 PM
izybx wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
Nalod wrote:
arkrud wrote:I was driving 97 on Turnpike NJ in 55 mile zone...
Get stopped and officer told me if I will not go to court he will give me "Did not obey NJ turnpike traffic signs". This was 2 points and $110 at a time (3 years back).
I stopped right away, confessed to all officer said and was very polite.
So I agreed to not go to court. He told me to slow down and have a nice day.
Since then I am not driving faster that 10-15 miles over the limit and try to stay in the pack.
Also I am always watching for cups and never try to cut the distance to next car packs too fast.
So no tickets since... good willing...
also get stopped locally driving 65 in 35 mile zone... We talked with officer about Rangers game and that the Knicks sucks.
He gave me a ticket for not having insurance paper with me ($65)... and let me go.
Be nice man and they will be nice to you.

I usually just tell the truth and not act hostile or upset. Few months ago I got pulled and told the guy I was heading to a buisness function and as running late. He said "hang on, we'll get you their in time". He checked I was clean (no points, warrents) and let me off with a warning.

I always:

PUll over so they are safe, it relax's them if they don't have to be too close to traffic.
Open my windows so when they approach the car they can see who is in it, and my hands on the wheel.
I let him/her know I do not carry any weapons and my wallet is in my jacket,and registration is in the box. This way he understands my movements.

Cops get killed in stops and are nervous. They might be pricks and arrogant but sometimes they are good people as well and have families to go home to. IN any event I want them to do me a favor and I can dictate (sometimes) how the stop is going to go.

Its interesting that I follow your protocol to the letter and have yet to meet so generous an officer. Hell, the ******* that most recently pulled me over was threatening to draw on me because I had the audacity to let him know that I was reaching for my wallet, in my back pocket with my right hand before actually doing so. So **** him and **** his profession. Police officers only have the 10th most dangerous job in the country and it wasn't like anyone forced them into it. Maybe he should've focused more on not being a high school burnout and aspire to more than $38,000/yr, trying to be some fake-ass Rambo.

Hmmmm. I have my Bachelors Degree, and as far as the 38k I make about three times that, not to mention in a few years I can retire and enjoy my free health care and 50% pay for the rest of my life at the ripe old age of 44.

I understand people being upset about receiving an expensive summons (Ive gotten a few myself), but considering you are a habitual offender I don't understand why you would expect a break. How about you STOP SPEEDING and OBEY THE LAW and then maybe you wont have to be fined.

And if the way you conduct yourself in this thread is any indication of how you treated this man who is DOING HIS JOB then Im shocked that he didnt tag with more violations.

All you've done for me is to articulate the very concept of wasteful spending and the ills of Big Government. But thank you for your service of harassing the general public, pulling over speeding cars and busting dumb high school kids as well as non-violent minorities for minor drug possession.

But in all seriousness, I don't know you and you may in fact be one of the very few decent cops out there. In my experiences though, as a person with a clean record (other than the speeding tickets), you are a rare few. Unfortunately for you though, I'm also big on profiling so you'll have to bare the burden of the corrupt that populate your profession.

NardDogNation
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10/4/2014  1:38 PM
Nalod wrote:Nard, your distain must be written all over your face no matter how you try.

Stay angry, it will work in your favor one day. Until then, slow down.

I like to think I have an excellent poker face; there have been people I have despised for years who confide in me like a friend. But even if my disdain was apparent, does that give him the right to circumvent any semblance of professionalism and prep to draw on me? Why is it that the guy who isn't salaried, who doesn't have a weapon, has to maintain his cool but the jerk-off that's armed to the "T" and is salaried can get away with murder, literally? The very first question he asked me was if I had a gun. I indicated that I didn't and somehow my telling him that my wallet was in my back pocket was enough for him to be suspicious enough to do a minor flipout? Imagine if his job was actually dangerous!

Nalod
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10/4/2014  3:44 PM
You don't like cops. They sense it.

I have had cops pull me over in my bmw, and me a bald middle age man in a suit and the cop had his hand on the the gun still holstered.

I do ask to get my wallet. I wait until given permission. That still don't mean he is safe as even the bad guys are polite.
IM sure they are profiling, and looking for the "conspiracy militia white guy" as well.
Everybody has guns these days. Don't take it personal.

NardDogNation
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10/4/2014  5:44 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/4/2014  6:06 PM
Nalod wrote:You don't like cops. They sense it.

I have had cops pull me over in my bmw, and me a bald middle age man in a suit and the cop had his hand on the the gun still holstered.

I do ask to get my wallet. I wait until given permission. That still don't mean he is safe as even the bad guys are polite.
IM sure they are profiling, and looking for the "conspiracy militia white guy" as well.
Everybody has guns these days. Don't take it personal.

No, I don't like cops. I'm an ******* (albeit an affable one) but I don't hide behind a shield and a gun to be one. And no, not all cops are bad men but they certainly cover for one another at the very least, which stains the whole bunch in my purview. Last I checked, enabling or aiding a criminal is a crime (aka an accessory) and cops do that for each other time and again; like when one of them sexually assaulted a personal friend of mine in her own home while his partner stood lookout (she was only 17); or when one of them tried hooking up with my then-16 year old girlfriend; or like when one of them decided to bash my brother's head in with a baton because he shared the same color skin as some generic suspect; or when one of the douches, who I knew from my neighborhood, executed a Brooklyn kid despite not being a threat. They either are dirty or they cover for the dirty ones. So no, I don't like any of them and I know quite a few personally.

That being said, I may be completely in the wrong by the law of the letter in my most recent case. But the burden of proof lies with the prosecution, not the defendant. So I say, let them burn through thousands of tax dollars trying an otherwise frivolous case. They'll have to work for my money this time. And considering the ridiculous amount of **** they get away with, its time an average citizen gets over on the system.

P.S., I told him I was reaching for my wallet only AFTER he said he needed to see ID. Before that point both my hands were on my steering wheel, in clear view, because I know how "threatening" the color of my skin inherently makes me. You can ask Levar Johnson about that.

I also think I need to clarify the fact that he had his hand on his gun as he approached my vehicle, which is standard and understandable. But we were well into our conversation after he brought his hand back to his gun, ready to draw because I had the audacity to let him know I was reaching for my wallet after he instructed me to do so.

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