He don't get fired, he leaves when he is done.

We read they are installing a new offense and it will take time. Lets fire him and install another offense mid season.

Thats not gonna happen.

gunsnewing wrote:No he will be fired this year or will "resign/retire"

Reece is definitely getting fired

0-2 and its panic city. WHat was your expectation for the season? What is the potential for the team?
The new offense, is it still a work in progress?

dk7th wrote:

Nalod wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:No he will be fired this year or will "resign/retire"

Reece is definitely getting fired

0-2 and its panic city. WHat was your expectation for the season? What is the potential for the team?
The new offense, is it still a work in progress?

to hear bradshaw in the postgame, it just sounds like another slow start and they'll figure it out. i am inclined to agree. they were up against the best run defense yesterday so you have to figure the rushing will be better. turnovers and special teams proved they are not a playoff team yet. parcells always stressed that playoff games are won on turnovers an special teams.

I don't follow them close enought to know what the roster turn over looks like and if its a "rebuild". We let Tuck go. The running game is weak. New offense.

I would imagine Coughlin knows the gig. IF its a rebuild and he's got the engergy and desire they'll let him stay. Has Reese really blundered? Are Giants rebuilding?
Coughlin is a 2 time Superbowl winner and enroute to HOF. You don't fire guys like that, they step down when they done.

Any superfans really have a take on the roster contruction and expectation?

We lack too much talent to compete

OFF LINE
lockdown CB's, with one being able to match up vs the BIG WR's 1v1
RB
2 TE's to play together that are versatile enough to block and/or catch on high % like Ballard and Travis Beckum did? I forgot their names the last time we beat the Pat's, they were very under rated

I have never though Eli was ELITE and now I think he is on the bottom end of QB's
However, he got hot, made some great throws at the right time, and his recievers/TE's produced with our DEF together
We had a healthy roster and it just worked out well with the momentum gained

I don't think these players "BELIEVE" whether it is on the players or the coach, it is irrelevent at this point
I am new to football and do not understand it with the cap at all, with the value of each picks each year but we need lots of changes, not sure when the Giant's "2015, compared to Knick's"
But they need to rebuild their roster with the cap and draft picks, while trading everyone but Cruz, not sure if Eli has any good value but we should trade him if we can, it is business

RonRon wrote:There comes a time that change is needed
Whether it is his fault or not, someone should be held accountable after another change of an OFFENSIVE COACH leading to the same result
We simply lack talent and need to rebuild, after winning 2 rings, I think it is a change best for both parties

We lack too much talent to compete

OFF LINE
lockdown CB's, with one being able to match up vs the BIG WR's 1v1
RB
2 TE's to play together that are versatile enough to block and/or catch on high % like Ballard and Travis Beckum did? I forgot their names the last time we beat the Pat's, they were very under rated

I have never though Eli was ELITE and now I think he is on the bottom end of QB's
However, he got hot, made some great throws at the right time, and his recievers/TE's produced with our DEF together
We had a healthy roster and it just worked out well with the momentum gained

I don't think these players "BELIEVE" whether it is on the players or the coach, it is irrelevent at this point
I am new to football and do not understand it with the cap at all, with the value of each picks each year but we need lots of changes, not sure when the Giant's "2015, compared to Knick's"
But they need to rebuild their roster with the cap and draft picks, while trading everyone but Cruz, not sure if Eli has any good value but we should trade him if we can, it is business

Sorry to say, but I view this entire post as misguided. You should watch football for a few more years. The Giants have abundant talent, particularly on the defensive side of the ball. We have lock-down corners in ARC and PA. We have elite safeties, a solid LB corps and a terrific D-line.

The talent problems on NYG mainly revolve around the OFF LINE. And while Eli may not be elite, he is a PROVEN winner, with two hard-won SuperBowl titles for us in the past 8 years. We're not rebuilding anything. The Coughlin era is tied to Eli. Reese needs to rebuild our O-line and we will be back in contention. BTW, losing Snee had a huge impact on our offense, since he was (arguably) the best player on the team.

jrodmc wrote:

Nalod wrote:Eli is not elite. He just has two Superbowl rings.

Very average Qb's can win rings.
Two is a different story.

Only 23 QB's in the HOF from the modern era.
ONly mupliple winner NOT in is Jim Plunkett. Jim was a very good QB, so is Eli. not Elite.

Guys with more than one superbowl wins....

I tend to disagree.

By distilling your list, you get:

Tom Brady 3-2
John Elway 2-3
Terry Bradshaw 4-0
Joe Montana 4-0
Roger Staubach 2-2
Troy Aikman 3-0
Bob Griese 2-1
Ben Roethlisberger 2-1
Bart Starr 2-0*
Jim Plunkett 2-0
Eli Manning 2-0

Plunkett and Big Ben are the only questionable names on your list. Some analysts say Rothlisberger may have had some of the worst performances ever in a Super Bowl.

You might just be wrong on Plunkett, though:

In his first game as a starter, he completed eleven of fourteen passes with a touchdown and no interceptions. Plunkett guided Oakland to nine victories in eleven games and a playoff berth as a wild card. Plunkett led the Raiders to four playoff victories, including the first-ever victory by a wild card team in the Super Bowl, defeating the Philadelphia Eagles 27–10 in Super Bowl XV. Throwing for 261 yards and three touchdowns, Plunkett was named the game's MVP; subsequently, Plunkett has the distinction of being the first minority to quarterback a team to a Super Bowl victory and the only Latino to be named Super Bowl MVP. In addition to this, he became the second of four players to win the Heisman Trophy and Super Bowl MVP, Roger Staubach before him, and Marcus Allen and Desmond Howard after him.

The guy came off the bench twice during regular seasons and won Super Bowls and an MVP. Pretty elite.

That's some pretty elite company Eli's got there.

Plunkett is not in the HOF is he? That was my point. Two time winner don't make him elite.
Only 23 Qb's are in. For sure we have Brady and Payton in this era.
Its not just about the game, but Big Ben is 2-1 but has played in 3. Jim Kelly got to 4 but no wins. He is no in.Fran took Minny three times but never win. he IS in.
Pro Football don't just let anyone in! Marino and Fouts put up gaudy numbers which got them in.but never got to the game.
Craig Morton got two teams to the Superbowl but no wins.

Hey, Im all for Eli being in. I looked at another list and appears Jim Kelly is in.

In the end of the day Robert Horry is not comparable to Jordan, nor is Bill Russell
Using Jordan because he started the 5 is better than 1 BS

Jordan has hurt our chances of becoming contenders even after retirement, off the court with those comments

As if Lebron isn't tough enough, he is looking to get as many rings as possible, at least to tie or beat out Kobe, targeting 5-6 or more before he retires
His ability to attract talent, from ALL STARs, solid role players (Mike Miller), vet min players, make other players better, while all taking less will a challenge

mreinman wrote:

RonRon wrote:Rings can not be used as a measure of greatness
It doesn't justify talent

In the end of the day Robert Horry is not comparable to Jordan, nor is Bill Russell
Using Jordan because he started the 5 is better than 1 BS

Jordan has hurt our chances of becoming contenders even after retirement, off the court with those comments

As if Lebron isn't tough enough, he is looking to get as many rings as possible, at least to tie or beat out Kobe, targeting 5-6 or more before he retires
His ability to attract talent, from ALL STARs, solid role players (Mike Miller), vet min players, make other players better, while all taking less will a challenge

in his two runs, he was the greatness (unlike Trent Dilfer).

He still is...he has a "winner within" attitude. You get that from childhood, not from having a great arm. He has an indomitable spirit and a QB's acumen for winning close games. Once he gets a handle on Benny's plays, and tightens up with Cruz, he gwine pwn muffahs. Watch and learn.

Giants missed the playoffs 4 out of the last 5 season
This would be 5 of 6 for those keeping score
Not even the Knicks & yankees are that inept