TripleThreat wrote:Nalod wrote:Sorry, I believe in due process and think the NFL should be in concert with the legal system and basically catogorize infractions to suspensions. A felony is a felany and based on its class is how it gets punished, same for the League. Mistemeaner as well. Be fair.
One of the reasons that the NFL far outstrips both MLB and the NBA and keeps the NHL far far far from the pack is that the game appeals to the female audience. I'm not saying there aren't women who like baseball or basketball or hockey, but the market share is a whole different ballgame.
Women, in America, watch television disproportionately more than men on the average.
Women, in most American married households, and even in most non married households, are usually the primary decision makers for consumer purchases.
The reason the NFL bends the knee Game Of Thrones style to women and feminists and the female audience is because they collectively have a lot of purchasing power and they have a strong lobby from a political standpoint. The NFL spends a full month wearing pink on the field for breast cancer. However every single male in this forum will likely get prostate cancer if they live long enough. But the NFL could give a flying **** about prostate cancer.
The NFL is pretending it hasn't seen his recently released film, while it probably has. Now it has to react to show it's "doing something" about the issue.
Modern American society isn't that complicated in terms of "sacred cows", you simply cannot say anything negative at all, even about issues of merit, regarding
- African Americans
- Homosexual
- Women in general
- Jews
- Liberals
Without being immediately attacked and having a powerful lobby threaten your sponsors.
Because that is exactly what will happen. Feminist lobbyists will reach out to the NFL and say we will contact and protect all of your sponsors and tell them we will encourage all women to never buy Product X again, and see if we can't find some nice tidy class action law suit to start, unless you give us what we want. Money, jobs, influence.
This is not about "fair", it's about money. If women had zero buying power and zero lobbying power in this country, you'd see Hooters are the national sponsor for the NFL.
Roger Goodell, in his defense, and not to his defense, has to consider precedent. If you ban Player X for doing this at this point, you can't wildly ban Player Y for something close to that type of behavior later. He brought some of this on himself by being totally punitive in his punishments the past few years. You keep bringing down the hammer, people expect you to keep it up. But to see it from his side, this was not exactly fully charted territory for the league and discipline. He has to do enough to lend the perception of discipline but not so much he hurts the on field product ( hence the drug policy is changing, too many players are getting suspended, it hurts the product to have that many guys get suspended for half a season or the full year. Again, it's about money)
When Jeremy Lin had a bad game, Jason Whitlock said in Twitter that some girl would "feel two inches of pain tonight", feeding into the negative stereotype of Asian men and their physical endowment. If Whitlock was white or Asian and Lin was black, he would have been fired. Instead he had to apologize and got a little suspension. Chris Paul said a while back he'd prefer to play for a black coach. Didn't ruffle too many feathers. Imagine if Chris Paul was white and said he wanted to play for a white coach?
If a team cuts a heterosexual player for Michael Sam, it's called progress.
If a team won't sign Michael Sam because they don't want the media circus, they must be bigots and racist and horrible human beings and they should lose their jobs and suffer and burn in hell.
Unfortunately IMHO, one of the traits of our current American over feminized liberal political correct establishment is the lack of forgiveness implied. How can you extort money and jobs and influence when you do things like show tolerance and forgive?
That's the world we live in right now , guys, if the Titanic sinks and you don't give up your seat in a lifeboat to a woman, you are coward and a pig. But you still have to buy her an engagement ring and get on your knee if you want to get married. Why shouldn't she buy you an engagement ring? Why shouldn't she woo you and lavish you with gifts on Valentines Day? Why shouldn't she ask you out instead of waiting for some guy to ask her out. Why can't she open the door for you? Offer you a jacket when you are cold?
Sometimes you are wrong because you did something wrong, but sometimes you are wrong simply for being a man in today's society.
I don't condone what Ray Rice did. I think it was vile and stupid and weak. But for anyone to think actual forgiveness or tolerance would come of this, I don't know what to say. This is just another money/power/influence grab by some folks out there looking for the next big entity with cash to burn to leverage out. The sad thing is, I doubt many of these feminist groups actaully care about Janay Parker. They just want to know what they can get out of the NFL so that they don't lobby against the NFL's sponsors.
The people who demand tolerance the most are the least likely to give it. An irony of life.
Yeah, it's getting so you can't even beat up a random gay person, smash your wife's face in or lynch a black person anymore- hard times.