TripleThreat wrote:NardDogNation wrote:
Dude, I understand the perspective of their being little incentive for a man to marry but your line of reasoning is one of the most ludicrous I've seen. The concept of marriage is cringe-worthy to me but at the end of the day, I want a family and a HEALTHY two-parent household is the best model to raise children in. Not to mention, there are obvious financial incentives....so long as the relationship lasts and the added benefit of not having to die alone. Most sane men won't sacrifice that because of the off chance that you might end up having to knock her on her ass.And people don't hire minorities because of ascetics. One would think that their credentials and ability to further the companies goals would have some impact in the hiring process, would it not? Not hiring minorities because of the propensity for scandal is every bit as ridiculous as not hiring a Caucasian male because of the possibility he might rape a co-worker or embezzle money from the company.
If you actually want me to give a more expansive answer, it's that I am saying more agents and advisers would see the incentives in place to tell high profile American professional athletes to ignore the idea of marriage and children and settling down while their careers are active.
Most pro sports careers in America are very very short. I think the average NFL player is a bit under four seasons and the average NFL player in the top three rounds of the draft is something like six seasons.
On the end of agents and directors of player development on pro teams ( essentially the retired veterans hired to manage and keep rookies out of trouble) will see the incentive to push this. A young rookie player without a wife and kids is simply a much easier guy to manage. Agents don't have to worry about the demands of a wife of a player or a mother in law or having to try to find jobs for the wive's friends or cousins or whatnot.
I think a lot of athletes might take the stance - Why bother. Just focus on the career. Pay to bang out a hot chick every now and then. And just focus on playing good ball. If you get caught, it's a hooker, it's embarrassing, but you could beat or rape or throw a hooker off a bridge, and at the end of the day, society still sees her as a hooker. Even other women don't come running to the support of hookers. I'm not saying anyone should beat or rape or hurt any woman, nor any hooker, I am saying for a young pro athlete with a lot to lose, esp considering public perception and political correctness, it might be a safer bet than getting married, having the woman decide it's time to cash out, then smash her face into a brick wall and say you tried to kill her.
People are shaped by their experiences and perceptions. When Notre Dame fired Tyrone Willingham as football coach, there was a firestorm of bad PR and negative press. One of the black female regents even shaved her head in protest. Do you think Notre Dame ever wants to go through again? So what's the incentive to hire a black head coach when you feel two candidates might be on equal footing?
The NFL Rookie Symposium is essentially coaches and players, some former, telling rookies on how to avoid the 12 million ways someone can try to destroy your career and get you sued and get you on the cover of TMZ, and the other 12 million ways you can self inflict that on yourself and your franchise.
The marriage rate in America has declined now for a very long time, year after year. Fewer incentives for many people, esp men, to get married. How much more is that hyper realized by a young millionaire high profile athlete? I'm not saying all young players will do it, I simply am saying Ray Rice and other situations start to become cautionary tales that agents and advisers and team personnel and coaches will start to impart on players more and more.
You're looking at the rare instances where athletes have had public falling-outs with their significant other and are trying to generalize them. Not all women are Anna Benson or the whores commonly found on Basketball Wives. Also, let's not forget that Ray Rice brought this **** on himself. I don't buy the nonsense that his fiancé is some doey-eyed, Mother Teresa like person, given the fact she smacked him before they got on the elevator and stepped up to hit Ray again when the skirmish first started BUT he shouldn't have put himself in that situation anyway. At the same time, I refuse to co-op these ridiculous PC-narratives that get spun by the media. I just had to deal with Ray Lewis stand on his moral soap box to recycle the same tired lines about domestic abuse. And yes, that's the same Ray Lewis who regularly sounded like a psychopath throughout his career and may have even killed a dude.....that Ray Lewis....standing on a soap box.
As for the pro-not-hiring-minority-angle you're trying to work, I don't buy it. The fact is that there is possibility for scandal regardless of who you hire. I could just as easily point to something like the Jerry Sandusky scandal or Bernie Madoff scandal as reasons employers might be hesitant to hire Caucasians.