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RonRon
Posts: 25531 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/22/2002 Member: #246 |
8/24/2014 8:47 PM LAST EDITED: 8/24/2014 8:52 PM
Nix, you are extremly optimistic
You had the same positive thinking when explaining how Kidd/AB would do well for CA 1- Yes Kidd helped with his veteran leadership but he was a horrible player after his hot start, his value was OFF THE COURT, despite his age you just couldn't understand that 2- AB was never succesful at PF, where you kept going over videos/explainations on how was going to be successful, he displayed he was useful at times at Center though, at times with Kmart as the PF, even at times with STAT 3- For AB to work at PF, he must play with with a mobile athletic C that can also score in a variety of ways, play good/great 1v1 and TEAM DEF, and is versatile, the KEY BEING MOBILE/ATHLETIC No matter what you say, everyone can agree that SF CA would never work because of their defensive, weakness's, and rebounding issues in a playoff game vs contenders |
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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
8/24/2014 10:18 PM
RonRon wrote:Nix, you are extremly optimistic My point wasn't so much that PF was the most important thing, but rather that Bargs should be used as a PnP big. One thing that you aren't really getting is that the positions are not that important at a certain point. Like STAT playing C is really just in terms of his offensive game, because he can play low post. Bargs playing C was really only when he was on Defense against other C's, which he did at a good level. On Offense Bargs still played his usual PnP game. It's not like he was posting up like a normal C when he was in there. It's all relative. STAT can't defend C's like Bargs and Bargs can't post like STAT. Get it now? I agree with you on having both in there on Defense. It's hard to imagine that being a good combination, but I never suggested that. I'm not here to defend STAT and Bargs as a combo defensively. You just made that up in your own mind cuz I never said that would be ideal. Instead I did post stats that showed Bargs played well at C with KMart in there and in a lineup with CA, Shump and JR but not KMart. Bargs guarded the Center and KMart played center field in the paint with his help defense. If STAT and Bargs was to work defensively Bargs would have to guard the C and STAT would have to guard the PF spot. Both would have to do a better job trying to protect the paint. It may be that they play together out of necessity and they'll have to make it work. In most cases i'd expect that they would want to pair Jason, Dalembert or Acy with one of them to help give the interior D more range on help. Here is a stretch of games that you can see Bargs playing C. There are more games where he was effective at C and the team won. It's not hard to see that this team could play well defensively even with Bargs on the floor. It's really about lineup and coaching. It's also important to make sure Bargs is involved since he plays harder when he's getting touches. Still if you want to get a better idea of how Bargs was playing just watch more of the videos this guy has posted which have all the plays he was involved in. IMO with better coaching I can see a way Bargs can be more productive. |