NardDogNation wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:I wonder how the talking heads would handle the hope solo domestic charge if she was still in the limelight.

What happened?

she was arrested for a domestic violence charge for allegedly attacking her sister and young nephew. SHe is also Married to Jeremy Stevens(former NFL TE) who had his own issue with domestic violence.

As an adult man I have experienced a lot and I know enough now to leave these bitches alone as soon as is clear i might feel compelled to knock her out. The problem is these athletes never got the experience needed to sift through these garbage women. They see the physical beauty and can't handle it.

Guys need to learn this the hard way.

2 cases....Chris Brown and Rihanna. It's a fact that she ****s everybody. Not to mention she is really slick with her mouth. Chris tried to turn a whore with money into wife material. She was ****ing his friends, NBA players, music industry guys...what can you expect?

Ochocinco headbutt his wife after she found condoms in his car. He ducked up but if you see his wife on the reality show basketball wives, she is so loud ignorant and confrontational. I have no doubt that she was acting crazy and probably was hitting him and belittling his manhood. He headbutt her....that to me shows that she was in his face. He didn't put his hands on her. I think in the heat of the moment trying to get her off him he headbutt her. They had no prior history of domestic violence....

now could you say these women provoked these men? Yes...but there is a but...

like I said guys need to stop falling in love with these bitches and find themselves a real woman. The phrase you can't turn a whore into a house wife stands true. Stop chasing women just because they are gorgeous. Some of these guys never had that experience or the male figure to school them to be men.

After this then you can call bulls hit on the whole real men don't hit women. Real women don't act like men. Confront a man like a man and get knocked out. That's how real men are.

Now sociopaths that have mental issues that beat women have nothing to do with what I'm saying.

BRIGGS wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Hitting a women is never warranted unless there is a letimately threat, weapons in self defense. The point is people need to start respecting other people again. Giving winning Carte Blanche to hit a man is not the answer. Where I think Stephen messed up is saying something along the lines of Hit and you get hit back in a bigger way. Unfortunately that is not the answer.

Stephen is a bit chauvinistic. You can tell by the way he describes his interactions with women. He doesn't believe in sweating women and putting them on a pedestal. He feels he shouldn't have to. Suffice to say he thinks very highly of himself.

He grew up with nothing but sisters. He said his sisters would never lay their hands on their men. I doubt he'd truly advocate hitting women

Provocation--I think it is possible for a man to put his hands on a woman given the right provocation. We may not think it is right but a second interaction that involves provocation could end up in that result. For instance--what if your wife/girlfriend said she just kissed another man and for two seconds you grab her by the neck and squeeze just enough to let her know that what she just said in that instance was not only a shock but incredibly hurtful and the mans system reacted in that way. I have never personally punched kicked etc.. a female but I certainly once or twice grabbed my ex wife aggressively that she knew about it--and it came from a provocation that I did not expect. There is something to provocation especially when it comes with intent or shock that can make another person react like they would not normally. If this is what he was getting at--than I agree with him. I dont agree you should hit anyone--but given a circumstance a provocation can bring out a response that may have some violence attached to it.

How would you feel if you said something that hurt me so I grabbed your neck and squeezed? And then I said it was your fault because you made me get angry?

People can provoke you but how you respond to that is 100% your responsibility.

smackeddog wrote:

EnySpree wrote:I'll say this.... Every guy says they will never hit a woman and that real men don't hit women.... They say it because they never been in contact with some of these class less bitches that are out there. Watch basketball wives, mob wives, jersey shore or any of these shows and tell me if you fell in love with one of these bitches that you would not be compelled to knock one of them out?

As an adult man I have experienced a lot and I know enough now to leave these bitches alone as soon as is clear i might feel compelled to knock her out. The problem is these athletes never got the experience needed to sift through these garbage women. They see the physical beauty and can't handle it.

Guys need to learn this the hard way.

2 cases....Chris Brown and Rihanna. It's a fact that she ****s everybody. Not to mention she is really slick with her mouth. Chris tried to turn a whore with money into wife material. She was ****ing his friends, NBA players, music industry guys...what can you expect?

Ochocinco headbutt his wife after she found condoms in his car. He ducked up but if you see his wife on the reality show basketball wives, she is so loud ignorant and confrontational. I have no doubt that she was acting crazy and probably was hitting him and belittling his manhood. He headbutt her....that to me shows that she was in his face. He didn't put his hands on her. I think in the heat of the moment trying to get her off him he headbutt her. They had no prior history of domestic violence....

now could you say these women provoked these men? Yes...but there is a but...

like I said guys need to stop falling in love with these bitches and find themselves a real woman. The phrase you can't turn a whore into a house wife stands true. Stop chasing women just because they are gorgeous. Some of these guys never had that experience or the male figure to school them to be men.

After this then you can call bulls hit on the whole real men don't hit women. Real women don't act like men. Confront a man like a man and get knocked out. That's how real men are.

Now sociopaths that have mental issues that beat women have nothing to do with what I'm saying.

Jesus- lay off the misogyny! Some women are horrible just like some men are horrible- I'd say instead of calling women bitches maybe consider why you keep getting involved with women who you don't actually like as people.

I'm not calling women bitches. Some "women" can't be called any other thing. I'm married. My wife is a real woman. I'm lucky to have her. I had to learn to avoid these bitches to get to this point.

Misogyny had nothing to do with it. No offense to any women reading but like I said in not calling any woman a bitch. I'm calling bitches what they are. Real people would respect that.

BRIGGS wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Hitting a women is never warranted unless there is a letimately threat, weapons in self defense. The point is people need to start respecting other people again. Giving winning Carte Blanche to hit a man is not the answer. Where I think Stephen messed up is saying something along the lines of Hit and you get hit back in a bigger way. Unfortunately that is not the answer.

Stephen is a bit chauvinistic. You can tell by the way he describes his interactions with women. He doesn't believe in sweating women and putting them on a pedestal. He feels he shouldn't have to. Suffice to say he thinks very highly of himself.

He grew up with nothing but sisters. He said his sisters would never lay their hands on their men. I doubt he'd truly advocate hitting women

Provocation--I think it is possible for a man to put his hands on a woman given the right provocation. We may not think it is right but a second interaction that involves provocation could end up in that result. For instance--what if your wife/girlfriend said she just kissed another man and for two seconds you grab her by the neck and squeeze just enough to let her know that what she just said in that instance was not only a shock but incredibly hurtful and the mans system reacted in that way. I have never personally punched kicked etc.. a female but I certainly once or twice grabbed my ex wife aggressively that she knew about it--and it came from a provocation that I did not expect. There is something to provocation especially when it comes with intent or shock that can make another person react like they would not normally. If this is what he was getting at--than I agree with him. I dont agree you should hit anyone--but given a circumstance a provocation can bring out a response that may have some violence attached to it.

Exactly! I use to date a psycho that would try to goad other men into fighting me so that I could prove my love to her. One time she almost got my ass kicked by 3 dudes at a basketball tournament that I was in, who were all above 6"3' and each were no less than 210lbs. It got to the point where she'd even start hitting over dudes to rile them up for me to jump in.

The last time it happened while we were together, I just decided to let the situation go and if she got hit...then she got hit, which sent her into a fury against me. As I turned to walk away she sucker punched me so hard that she broke my glasses to the point where they couldn't be repaired and then proceeded to continue to talk **** for 5 or so minutes. I remember being so mad that I grabbed her and pinned her against the locker by her arms and told her that she'd regret putting her hands on me ever again like that. A few weeks later, she told me that she attended some "Take Back the Night" rally sponsored by some dumbass feminist club. To show their solidarity with the cause, they asked any woman who had "been assaulted by a man" to stand up and talk about it. Do you know this dumb **** stood up and referenced that situation when all I did was restrain her? I immediately ended all communication with her and realized the inherent trouble that a girl like that is.

The reality is that it's not the first time I've actually been punched by a girl. One bi-polar chick, punched me in the face because I had the audacity to not escort her to the college cafeteria. But it's okay as a mutual friend said because "she was having a rough day". I've also had several instances where drunk chicks tried shoving me to try to clear a path in a bar/party/lounge etc. They do **** like that because they realize there are no consequences for their actions and because these Dr.Phil types will cover for their nonsense.

Didn't Dione Sander's wife kick his ass? No I know as big as Dione is he could have responded but Iguess he knew that if he did his sports tv commentator career would be over so he just took a beating.

alwaysaknick wrote:what constitutes a provocation reasonably?

Forget women for a moment. A provocation can occur when any entity severly steps over the line of reasonable action. If a good buddy of yours says something way out of bounds about your wife keeps reiterating after you tell him stop or someone else says stop that might be constituted a provocation that might have a violent tale to it. Everyone has a point of no return.

If your wife cheats on you and then when you find out she is loud, physically violent and is saying things like "your Dicks too little" "I need a real man" "you ain't ****" "I'm gonna take the kids from you and have my new man raise them" "what you gonna hit me? You don't have the balls to hit me. You ain't gonna do **** you ain't a real man" all this as she hits you with things, mushes your face, slaps you, etc all at the same time.

It's wrong, you will regret it, and you will probably go to jail but you might end up seriously hurting anyone if this is the situation.

men need their fathers and strong make figures and family to guide them through these situations. Men always lose. No matter what

1 in 5 woman report being victims of sexual assaults in College Campuses today....
http://www.globalresearch.ca/rampant-sexual-violence-against-women-and-rape-on-college-campuses-across-america/5391303

Obviously there are instances where men are victimized, but that is a small amount of cases compared to the rampant victimization of women.
Excusing brutality against women in any public case only makes it that much more difficult for a future victim to come forward for fear of reprisal and lack of any type of justice.

Look at the story below where 3 frat guys in a college actually recorded raping a woman and in the end they got to graduate while she lost her financial aid and had to drop out....
http://issuehawk.com/igor/2014/06/20/college-allowed-3-frat-guys-who-raped-and-filmed-young-girl-to-graduate-while-she-lost-her-financial-aid.html

This is a big problem in America that rarely gets any media attention because of our male dominated society...