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7/25/2014  3:52 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/25/2014  3:58 PM
knicks1248 wrote:Really dude, what you believe and the facts maybe way off.


So you believe the other 3 options were for more than $124mil?

Are you saying there was an option larger than 5yrs $129mil and he turned it down
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7/25/2014  3:55 PM
gunsnewing wrote:Melo being Melo. How many times has this guy had to eat his dumb words

I enjoyed how he went around the horn and back to the Bulls

Can we understand this to mean he was using every team for leverage against us


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dk7th wrote:
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nyk4ever wrote:i am in no way getting on melo about taking the money he took (because i would do the same exact thing he did) but why is he saying he doesn't care about money? if he truly didn't care about money he would have taken less than what he did and to give the team more wiggle room to sign players.
context. Meaning the money wasnt the factor in him choosing between NY/Chi. Meaning he would have taken a haircut to be in Chi, and was more than willing to do so because he liked that situation enough, so he's 100% correct in saying he didnt care about the money, it was about being where he wanted to be.

I worked for a large bank for 8 years. First 6 years were great. The last 2 were awful. When I was looking for a new job I was more than willing to take a paycut. So money didnt matter... being in a better sitation did. When I started interviewing for my new I knew it was a great spot. When I talked to a few folks I knew who worked there they confirmed that. Does that mean I take whatever they give? No... I declined the first verbal offer. So yea.. I didnt care about money but I still made sure I got good value.

People really need to get over the money. He's max guy. He got several max offers. Its the NBA and the pro sports world. This notion that he should take some big pay cut so fans "feel better" about having him on the team is idiotic. Not for nothing he did take what? a 5% pay cut? Im sure all you guys who make $50k donated $2500 to charity or might be willing to give that back to help their employer right? Its so easy to manage other people's money. Silly.

Folks need to let it go. If Melo stinks next year then go spew hate. Fine. Thats comes with the territory. When he isnt performing then fine. Lets see Melo with Fish in the triangle. Let see the team next year and Melo's fit and role. Pretty much done with this dead horse.

it was a 3.89% paycut and for someone who claims to have worked with money the notion of powers of ten and orders of magnitude seems to elude you.

50 thousand donating 4% leaves a man with 48k.
24.8 million donating 4% leaves melo with 23,808,000 million.

the man has 48,000 left.
melo has 23,808,000 left.

are you claiming that they both sacrificed equally?

talk about silly.

No, actually Melo sacrificed more.

Nice of you to join... thanks tfk for waking him up

ok this tells me all i need to know about you.

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7/25/2014  4:04 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/25/2014  4:05 PM
fishmike wrote:
dk7th wrote:
fishmike wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:i am in no way getting on melo about taking the money he took (because i would do the same exact thing he did) but why is he saying he doesn't care about money? if he truly didn't care about money he would have taken less than what he did and to give the team more wiggle room to sign players.
context. Meaning the money wasnt the factor in him choosing between NY/Chi. Meaning he would have taken a haircut to be in Chi, and was more than willing to do so because he liked that situation enough, so he's 100% correct in saying he didnt care about the money, it was about being where he wanted to be.

I worked for a large bank for 8 years. First 6 years were great. The last 2 were awful. When I was looking for a new job I was more than willing to take a paycut. So money didnt matter... being in a better sitation did. When I started interviewing for my new I knew it was a great spot. When I talked to a few folks I knew who worked there they confirmed that. Does that mean I take whatever they give? No... I declined the first verbal offer. So yea.. I didnt care about money but I still made sure I got good value.

People really need to get over the money. He's max guy. He got several max offers. Its the NBA and the pro sports world. This notion that he should take some big pay cut so fans "feel better" about having him on the team is idiotic. Not for nothing he did take what? a 5% pay cut? Im sure all you guys who make $50k donated $2500 to charity or might be willing to give that back to help their employer right? Its so easy to manage other people's money. Silly.

Folks need to let it go. If Melo stinks next year then go spew hate. Fine. Thats comes with the territory. When he isnt performing then fine. Lets see Melo with Fish in the triangle. Let see the team next year and Melo's fit and role. Pretty much done with this dead horse.

it was a 3.89% paycut and for someone who claims to have worked with money the notion of powers of ten and orders of magnitude seems to elude you.

50 thousand donating 4% leaves a man with 48k.
24.8 million donating 4% leaves melo with 23,808,000 million.

the man has 48,000 left.
melo has 23,808,000 left.

are you claiming that they both sacrificed equally?

talk about silly.

No, actually Melo sacrificed more.

I hope Melo succeeds and proves he's worthy of his contract.

That said, Melo did not sacrifice more. Melo's sacrifice would be comparable to a similar percentage deduction from an average salary of 50,000 only if the prices of goods changed depending on how wealthy you are. Since everything costs the same to all people the 50,000 guy will feel that 2,000 lost a lot more than Melo will feel 1,000,000. He already has multi-generational money, everything else is surplus.
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7/25/2014  4:04 PM
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knicks1248 wrote:Really dude, what you believe and the facts maybe way off.


So you believe the other 3 options were for more than $124mil?

Are you saying there was an option larger than 5yrs $129mil and he turned it down

why discuss facts? We know there was a max deal because Phil said there was and he took less. Obviously not enough less for some folks to feel OK about.

Context. Perspective.

A man you have never met and know little to nothing about upsets you so because he accepted a contract offered to him, but in your mind it was too much, so you blast the guy as selfish, me first, dumb, etc etc etc

Think about it.. Today I will spin my wheels bitching on the internet because a professional athete took the money offered to him. Of all the things going on with this org this is what has the juice for you guys? If your not emotional about it, step back and look at what's being said its pretty funny.

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7/25/2014  4:06 PM
Phil " Melo kinda did what we asked of him"
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7/25/2014  4:08 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/25/2014  4:35 PM
Okay ThisIsMelo.com said this////

A few years ago I dreamed of coming back to New York City, the place of my birth, and on February 23, 2011 that became a reality. This organization has supported me and in return, I want to stay and build here with this city and my team. At this pivotal juncture in my career, I owed it to myself and my family to explore all of the options available to me. Through it all, my heart never wavered.

During this journey I met with some quality organizations who have amazing talent and leadership. I thank them for their consideration, belief in my talent, and opportunity to imagine the possibilities.

I will always remember this chapter in my life. In the end, I am a New York Knick at heart. I am looking forward to continuing my career in Orange & Blue, and to working with Phil Jackson, a champion who builds championship teams. Madison Square Garden is the mecca of basketball and I am surrounded by the greatest fans in the world.


But Today


"It was overwhelming," Anthony said. "It was stressful in the final days, one of the hardest decisions I've ever had to make."

Anthony said, though, it ultimately came down to New York and Chicago.

"I was flip-flopping," he admitted. "It was hard. It was Chicago, but then after I met with L.A., it was L.A. But it came back to Chicago -- and was pretty much always Chicago or New York. That's a situation where I could have walked in now to an opportunity to compete for the next however many years."


Who never Wavers but Flip-Flops?

This wasn't a good day for him nor his supporters
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7/25/2014  4:10 PM
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knicks1248 wrote:Really dude, what you believe and the facts maybe way off.


So the other 3 options were for more than $124mil?

Are you saying there was an option larger 5yrs $129mil and he turned it down

No, and Im not even going to assume what the options were..when the cap gets to be 80 mill in 2 yrs, what difference is a couple mill going to make.

Also, It's hard to even determine what this guy was/is thinking, First he said he loves playing in NY, then he said he was testing the FA market because he never has, then he said money doesn't mean jack, then he said it was a toss between the bulls and knicks.

Here's the real killer, He said he wants to win and was ready to vouch for Woodson, despite that being the #1 reason you weren't winning, he also said he was tired of being THAT GUY who always has to take the last 10 shots. Now he's sayinh he believes in Phil..

Dude You believed in woodsons iso ball, so now I 'm just confuse

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7/25/2014  4:16 PM
There's nothing wrong with wanting to get paid the most you can, but I don't know why athletes can't be honest and just say that they want to get paid AND win- just be honest, I'm fine with that, no need for bull****ting!
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7/25/2014  4:19 PM
fishmike wrote:
dk7th wrote:
fishmike wrote:
dk7th wrote:
fishmike wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:i am in no way getting on melo about taking the money he took (because i would do the same exact thing he did) but why is he saying he doesn't care about money? if he truly didn't care about money he would have taken less than what he did and to give the team more wiggle room to sign players.
context. Meaning the money wasnt the factor in him choosing between NY/Chi. Meaning he would have taken a haircut to be in Chi, and was more than willing to do so because he liked that situation enough, so he's 100% correct in saying he didnt care about the money, it was about being where he wanted to be.

I worked for a large bank for 8 years. First 6 years were great. The last 2 were awful. When I was looking for a new job I was more than willing to take a paycut. So money didnt matter... being in a better sitation did. When I started interviewing for my new I knew it was a great spot. When I talked to a few folks I knew who worked there they confirmed that. Does that mean I take whatever they give? No... I declined the first verbal offer. So yea.. I didnt care about money but I still made sure I got good value.

People really need to get over the money. He's max guy. He got several max offers. Its the NBA and the pro sports world. This notion that he should take some big pay cut so fans "feel better" about having him on the team is idiotic. Not for nothing he did take what? a 5% pay cut? Im sure all you guys who make $50k donated $2500 to charity or might be willing to give that back to help their employer right? Its so easy to manage other people's money. Silly.

Folks need to let it go. If Melo stinks next year then go spew hate. Fine. Thats comes with the territory. When he isnt performing then fine. Lets see Melo with Fish in the triangle. Let see the team next year and Melo's fit and role. Pretty much done with this dead horse.

it was a 3.89% paycut and for someone who claims to have worked with money the notion of powers of ten and orders of magnitude seems to elude you.

50 thousand donating 4% leaves a man with 48k.
24.8 million donating 4% leaves melo with 23,808,000 million.

the man has 48,000 left.
melo has 23,808,000 left.

are you claiming that they both sacrificed equally?

talk about silly.

No, actually Melo sacrificed more.

Nice of you to join... thanks tfk for waking him up

ok this tells me all i need to know about you.

I love Knicks AND pulp fiction.

no it tells me you have little notion of cost/price vis a vis value/worth and that you are more than likely unethical.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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7/25/2014  4:19 PM
smackeddog wrote:There's nothing wrong with wanting to get paid the most you can, but I don't know why athletes can't be honest and just say that they want to get paid AND win- just be honest, I'm fine with that, no need for bull****ting!

That's what ticks me off, it's clear he took the ceremonial paycut so he could spout this bull****
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7/25/2014  4:19 PM
Don't say anything regarding the contract. He must think we are as stupid as he is
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7/25/2014  4:20 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/25/2014  4:21 PM
Actually the fans that will fill the garden and personally thank him for resigning with us are either related to Stephen A Smith or they ARE as stupid as Melo
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7/25/2014  4:26 PM
This is business and Malo is selling his brand to the world.
And the world is not only NY fans but many other interested parties.
Fans for sure will contribute their part in tickets, shirts, and snickers...
But the business endorsements/partnerships are more valuable.
We heard same stuff before every season and this is irrelevant to how Melo or team will perform.
Our all society is build on lies which makes money.
Truth is priceless and profitless.
"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
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7/25/2014  4:28 PM
arkrud wrote:This is business and Malo is selling his brand to the world.
And the world is not only NY fans but many other interested parties.
Fans for sure will contribute their part in tickets, shirts, and snickers...
But the business endorsements/partnerships are more valuable.
We heard same stuff before every season and this is irrelevant to how Melo or team will perform.
Our all society is build on lies which makes money.
Truth is priceless and profitless.

Melo must really have conditioning problems if he's accepting candy bars as payment now!
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7/25/2014  4:34 PM
Dagger wrote:
arkrud wrote:This is business and Malo is selling his brand to the world.
And the world is not only NY fans but many other interested parties.
Fans for sure will contribute their part in tickets, shirts, and snickers...
But the business endorsements/partnerships are more valuable.
We heard same stuff before every season and this is irrelevant to how Melo or team will perform.
Our all society is build on lies which makes money.
Truth is priceless and profitless.

Melo must really have conditioning problems if he's accepting candy bars as payment now!

Hmmm... instant business idea...

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gunsnewing wrote:He seems to think New Yorkers are as dumb as he is

Excited to see this low IQ inefficient chucker lead this team. KISM keep it simple Melo. Passing is too complicated

He may say dumb things and do things you don't like but repeatedly stating that he is inefficient is just wrong. I am not sure that you understand what that means /////

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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7/25/2014  5:21 PM
fishmike wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:i am in no way getting on melo about taking the money he took (because i would do the same exact thing he did) but why is he saying he doesn't care about money? if he truly didn't care about money he would have taken less than what he did and to give the team more wiggle room to sign players.
context. Meaning the money wasnt the factor in him choosing between NY/Chi. Meaning he would have taken a haircut to be in Chi, and was more than willing to do so because he liked that situation enough, so he's 100% correct in saying he didnt care about the money, it was about being where he wanted to be.

I worked for a large bank for 8 years. First 6 years were great. The last 2 were awful. When I was looking for a new job I was more than willing to take a paycut. So money didnt matter... being in a better sitation did. When I started interviewing for my new I knew it was a great spot. When I talked to a few folks I knew who worked there they confirmed that. Does that mean I take whatever they give? No... I declined the first verbal offer. So yea.. I didnt care about money but I still made sure I got good value.

People really need to get over the money. He's max guy. He got several max offers. Its the NBA and the pro sports world. This notion that he should take some big pay cut so fans "feel better" about having him on the team is idiotic. Not for nothing he did take what? a 5% pay cut? Im sure all you guys who make $50k donated $2500 to charity or might be willing to give that back to help their employer right? Its so easy to manage other people's money. Silly.

Folks need to let it go. If Melo stinks next year then go spew hate. Fine. Thats comes with the territory. When he isnt performing then fine. Lets see Melo with Fish in the triangle. Let see the team next year and Melo's fit and role. Pretty much done with this dead horse.


The problem is....this is something melo brought up all on his own, just like announcing he was opting out before the seaon which proved to be a distraction.

Basically if he said nothing and let his letter that was on his website speak and thats it, they'd be no issues. but Melo cant resist sticking his foot in his mouth....once again.

If he truly was being where he wanted to be, then his decision wouldnt have taken so long, matter of fact he wouldnt have opted out.

Money was the reason, the main reason, the only reason.
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7/25/2014  5:45 PM
mreinman wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:He seems to think New Yorkers are as dumb as he is

Excited to see this low IQ inefficient chucker lead this team. KISM keep it simple Melo. Passing is too complicated

He may say dumb things and do things you don't like but repeatedly stating that he is inefficient is just wrong. I am not sure that you understand what that means /////

Oh I know what it means. Melos postseason shooting is atrocious and when he isn't facing weaker teams in the regular season
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7/25/2014  5:53 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
mreinman wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:He seems to think New Yorkers are as dumb as he is

Excited to see this low IQ inefficient chucker lead this team. KISM keep it simple Melo. Passing is too complicated

He may say dumb things and do things you don't like but repeatedly stating that he is inefficient is just wrong. I am not sure that you understand what that means /////

Oh I know what it means. Melos postseason shooting is atrocious and when he isn't facing weaker teams in the regular season


i definitely agree his performance in the playoffs for the Knicks has been quite subpar.
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