I think Phil probably made the right choice. I dont think the Bulls were really gonna offer us anything compelling in an S&T and I don't see how we were gonna lock up a better player than Melo

Nalod wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

Nalod wrote:

fishmike wrote:ok... Ill admit. I just wanted to start a thread with 'Mooby' in it. Actually didnt realize the no trade part had come out yet.

If you must, do a google of "Moses and golden calf and find a graphic" then caption it......

Knicks resign Carmelo Anthony and fans rejoice!!!

Or

Phil Jax seen here offering Melo not 5 contract offers but in fact TEN via simple tablet!

Perhaps take a different twist where Moses is not depicted as PhilJax, but as a Melo hater:

Knick hater TDK seen visually upset with Melos new contract. Again.

Ah. Now I get the Mooby reference. Was wondering about that one. Obscure but fitting.

google Mooby, its from the movie "Dogma" and pertains to the golden calf satire used as a corporate mascot. It was clever.
Nalod hated "coming home" and the worship that Melo received. While I am no Melo hater, I really was turned off by the hero worship he recieved. At the same time he is not deserving of the hate by detractors.
Melo is not the Knicks but often depicted as "Melo don't advance", not "Knicks don't advance".
I trust phil's intentions to build not "around" melo but "With" melo. Thats my view, nothing more.

Yeah. No need to Google. Once I saw those pics you posted it was obvious what is was. The golden statue to the false deity. Perfect actually.

I do think dislike for Melo or the issues he brings are also frequently misrepresented as hatred. I don't hate him, but I definitely don't think of him as a true knick and I think he is here only for the money. Since the Knicks are paying him its mostly not his fault, but could he have voluntarily done something different? Sure he could. But like I posted before, he had multiple options and he chose the money above all else. So yes I think it's fair to criticize him for being greedy.

He is not a "real knick" as he has yet to have his defining moment. Bernard King had a nice run here and some gaudy numbers. King had a far more dubious past in the league before he was a knick so it was the low expectation and outperformce that made him beloved.

I dare to think how the media would have treated Ewing even more than they did with his guarantees, selfish attitude and threats to leave via free agency. Sure he was a "Warrior" and gave it his all but he hid injuries and slowed the ball down. It was said he would not push it as the offense would score without him and he wanted his touches! While Don Nelson legacy lacks a ring, in 1996 he was bought in and wanted to play uptempo ball. When Ewing faught this he basically lost and was fired. JVG was installed as coach and he even faught the uptempo desire of Grunfeld when given Camby. If not for ewings Wrist injury we might not have seen that. When ewing returned he had to play a bit more uptempo and did OK but it was argued we were better with Camby.

My point, Melo is blamed for things beyond his reach and naturally we pile it on the highest paid player. Melo to me plays very hard, plays hurt, and while his defense is suspect so is more than half the league. IF the effort went more toward defense his offense would suffer. Its not talked about but stars that get fouls have to come out of the game.

Winning always makes everyone look better.

Should jax not paid him? Not given him a trade clause? Not signed him at all?

Easy to say "No Melo" but as mentioned, who then? Abstract concepts are easy to suggest but being over the cap its not like his hold would have given us a chance to sign a star player this year, and really there were none to be had!

smackeddog wrote:Like he needed a no trade cause with that contract! If we stink it up next season and fail in the 2015 offseason, he'll demand a trade anyways- this is a non issue.

LOL what if WE WANT TO TRADE HIM

BK had an ego the size of Everest, which was weird at the time, given his immediate past troubles. He could have stayed here and managed something special with Ewing, but he went elsewhere, for whatever reason. Afraid he wasn't going to be the man, money, etc, etc. Don't forget, he didn't think Bird in the middle of his prime would start over him if he went to the Celtics. That be some stones.

The one-way player thing has been repeated so often, it's worse than the Mooby worship. The stats don't bear it out, no matter what the rest of the league is doing. Is he Mr. Lockdown Elite Defender? No, but let's stop with the Melo trips over half court getting back on D, when he actually remembers to do so schtick; it's beneath childish at this point. Could he give more effort consistently? sure. Let's see what happens now that the magic Triangle is going to assure he doesn't have carry the load on O.

Nalod wrote:...if we have other real MVP's on a team with Melo and we win 50 plus games!!!
Then might we dare to ask: "Did Melo make others better that year"?
Uh oh! Here it comes..................

Instigator!
Or we might be saying after two or three 50-win seasons; "See, Melo finally got consistent, quality help around him!"