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BigDaddyG
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7/15/2014  10:12 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/15/2014  10:13 PM
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BigDaddyG wrote:The dude has been a very midrange shooter for most of hi career, with last year being the exception. His rebounding is pathetic, but at least he gets the occasional block. It's an aight signing. Three white centers on the same team. Is that one of Phil's things?

Lol, don't think Shaq was very white, so probably not.


Yeah, but he had Slavo medvedenko, Travis Knight, Chris mihm, Greg Foster and mark Madsen, who sometimes plays center. And sometimes Pau.
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7/15/2014  10:26 PM
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7/15/2014  10:28 PM
I think the point is prior to Shaq there was less emphasis on the center in the triangle, because the offense survives without a back to the basket, low post player. Instead your center is playing more high post, is setting picks, hitting jumpers, moving the ball. Shaq's great passing ability created a bit of a triangle tweak, but in Chicago the empahsis was on the two wing guys and C was more of an after thought.
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7/15/2014  10:42 PM
He's much more of a PF than a C.
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7/15/2014  10:52 PM
BRIGGS wrote:He's much more of a PF than a C.

Really? I read somewhere that he started at C for the Pelicans before getting injured. He's a true 7-footer and active.

With Amar'e, Bargnani, Aldrich, Dalembert and Smith as a probable PF/C rotation, who would you start where and how many minutes would you play them?

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7/15/2014  11:11 PM
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BRIGGS wrote:He's much more of a PF than a C.

Really? I read somewhere that he started at C for the Pelicans before getting injured. He's a true 7-footer and active.

With Amar'e, Bargnani, Aldrich, Dalembert and Smith as a probable PF/C rotation, who would you start where and how many minutes would you play them?

I think what you have is a bunch of guys who can play 4/5 and will play 1/2 games--rotate to stay healthy and fresh--and have the ability to take some games off. We have guys who can score rebound defend--were very reasonable inside IF they can all hold up.

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7/15/2014  11:38 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
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BRIGGS wrote:He's much more of a PF than a C.

Really? I read somewhere that he started at C for the Pelicans before getting injured. He's a true 7-footer and active.

With Amar'e, Bargnani, Aldrich, Dalembert and Smith as a probable PF/C rotation, who would you start where and how many minutes would you play them?

I think what you have is a bunch of guys who can play 4/5 and will play 1/2 games--rotate to stay healthy and fresh--and have the ability to take some games off. We have guys who can score rebound defend--were very reasonable inside IF they can all hold up.


Dalembert's contributions are going to be crucial. He's the only legitimate rim protector we have and we're going to need that with Pablo and Calderon guarding the perimeter. But Sam is going to have to cut down on the turnovers and play a little smarter so he won't be a liability offensively.
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7/15/2014  11:50 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Knicksfan wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:He's much more of a PF than a C.

Really? I read somewhere that he started at C for the Pelicans before getting injured. He's a true 7-footer and active.

With Amar'e, Bargnani, Aldrich, Dalembert and Smith as a probable PF/C rotation, who would you start where and how many minutes would you play them?

I think what you have is a bunch of guys who can play 4/5 and will play 1/2 games--rotate to stay healthy and fresh--and have the ability to take some games off. We have guys who can score rebound defend--were very reasonable inside IF they can all hold up.


Dalembert's contributions are going to be crucial. He's the only legitimate rim protector we have and we're going to need that with Pablo and Calderon guarding the perimeter. But Sam is going to have to cut down on the turnovers and play a little smarter so he won't be a liability offensively.

Someone wrote about the Aldridge signing and said Cole's #'s project out as an elite shot blocker.
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7/15/2014  11:56 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/15/2014  11:56 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Knicksfan wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:He's much more of a PF than a C.

Really? I read somewhere that he started at C for the Pelicans before getting injured. He's a true 7-footer and active.

With Amar'e, Bargnani, Aldrich, Dalembert and Smith as a probable PF/C rotation, who would you start where and how many minutes would you play them?

I think what you have is a bunch of guys who can play 4/5 and will play 1/2 games--rotate to stay healthy and fresh--and have the ability to take some games off. We have guys who can score rebound defend--were very reasonable inside IF they can all hold up.


Dalembert's contributions are going to be crucial. He's the only legitimate rim protector we have and we're going to need that with Pablo and Calderon guarding the perimeter. But Sam is going to have to cut down on the turnovers and play a little smarter so he won't be a liability offensively.

Someone wrote about the Aldridge signing and said Cole's #'s project out as an elite shot blocker.

We signed Lamarcus Aldridge! 2015 championship here we come baby! Oh never mind, you mean Cole Aldrich lol
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7/16/2014  12:00 AM
Phil must have read Eny's smash mouth thread.

I like this signing. Added some size, and that jumper can really help space the floor. So now we still have the 3.6 million left to use on a single player?
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7/16/2014  12:02 AM
MaTT4281 wrote:Phil must have read Eny's smash mouth thread.

I like this signing. Added some size, and that jumper can really help space the floor. So now we still have the 3.6 million left to use on a single player?

Isnt it a trade excemption?

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7/16/2014  12:04 AM
Knicksfan wrote:Isnt it a trade excemption?

Yes, and maybe my understanding of it is off - can't we use the trade exception to sign a single FA? Or is it solely for filler on trades in place of matching salary?
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7/16/2014  12:36 AM
plus phil said during the last game that he think CENTER is amare's best position (probably was when he was in his prime at phx). so i expect him to the play the 5 as well
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7/16/2014  3:12 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/16/2014  3:23 AM
Not terrible. I had a few bigs ahead of him on my wish list, but not a bad signing at all. He's big, he'll compete, he can hit a jumper, he'll lay a hard foul on someone, not terrible offensively...Decent move.

Is that it? Are we still in the market for another big? Another post-up 4-man? Another rebounder? Another SF for the depth chart? Another younger ball-handler (better option over Pablo)? Do we try to alleviate the glut at 2G? I'd think long and hard about just dumping Wayne Ellington. This dude's not getting his due -- one of my favorite pieces we got back in the deal with Dallas...Probably the best shooter on the squad now, better than Calderon imo. Marc Berman's talking about the guy like he's an afterthought -- this guy's a very representative 2G in my eyes. Here's hoping we can move one of our other SGs for something and keep this guy...Just read Phil's shopping JR..
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7/16/2014  3:25 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/16/2014  3:27 AM
Finestrg wrote:Not terrible. I had a few bigs ahead of him on my wish list, but not a bad signing at all. He's big, he'll compete, he can hit a jumper, he'll lay a hard foul on someone, not terrible offensively...Decent move.

Is that it? Are we still in the market for another big? Another post-up 4-man? Another rebounder? Another SF for the depth chart? Another younger ball-handler (better option over Pablo)? Do we try to alleviate the glut at 2G? I'd think long and hard about just dumping Wayne Ellington. This dude's not getting his due -- one of my favorite pieces we got back in the deal with Dallas...Probably the best shooter on the squad now, better than Calderon imo. Marc Berman's talking about the guy like he's an afterthought -- this guy's a very representative 2G in my eyes. Here's hoping we can move one of our other SGs for something and keep this guy...Just read Phil's shopping JR..

Calderon is an elite 3pt shooter in the league, no way is scrub Ellington better than him. Hardaway is a better shooter than Ellington as well. I think he is an afterthought, his only redeeming quality I'd that he somewhat knows the triangle.
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7/16/2014  4:27 AM
Brings us up to 16 players if Thanasis Antetokounmpo makes the team (but not including Shannon Brown). Phil said he wanted a backup SF to spell Melo. It's odd that he said he viewed Amar'e as a C, because that leaves us with him, Cole, Jason Smith, and Dalambert. I guess the plan is to play Bargs at PF.

I miss the old 7ft white scrubs that were all the rage in the 90s, so I like this signing as it takes me back!

Jason Smith's number of games played the past 2 years is scary- 51 and 31, but he seems like a solid enough signing for the 15th man on the roster.
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7/16/2014  4:31 AM
smackeddog wrote:Brings us up to 16 players if Thanasis Antetokounmpo makes the team (but not including Shannon Brown). Phil said he wanted a backup SF to spell Melo. It's odd that he said he viewed Amar'e as a C, because that leaves us with him, Cole, Jason Smith, and Dalambert. I guess the plan is to play Bargs at PF.

I miss the old 7ft white scrubs that were all the rage in the 90s, so I like this signing as it takes me back!

Jason Smith's number of games played the past 2 years is scary- 51 and 31, but he seems like a solid enough signing for the 15th man on the roster.

If Phil's really in the market for a backup SF to slide in behind Melo and Early, I like Devin Ebanks or DeQuan Jones.
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7/16/2014  5:37 AM
MaTT4281 wrote:Phil must have read Eny's smash mouth thread.

I like this signing. Added some size, and that jumper can really help space the floor. So now we still have the 3.6 million left to use on a single player?

Whoop whoop! Lol

one thing about Jason Smith is he doesn't need motivation to bring energy. He's always been a high energy player. Phil made good on that comment. He wants guys to already have it in then to bring it.

Now I don't think we need him tackling dudes full court, but we have a guy that is not afraid to play the game. He will put the hammer down if need be.

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7/16/2014  5:39 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/16/2014  5:40 AM
Btw they used the tax payers exemption.....we still have the Dallas trade exemption and yes we can spend that on a player for the umpteenth time muthasucka
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7/16/2014  7:40 AM
This guy fits nicely. Shoots the mid-range very well. Gets rebounds and blocks shots.

IF he stays healthy of course. At the very least, he can rotate with Cole to backup Dalembert.

Phil is balancing the roster and getting guys who can shot mid range very well. I also agree with him that Bargs will play well in the triangle.
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