StarksEwing1 wrote:To be honest im very excited for the youth on this team more than anything. Happy melo is back but calling 122 million for a 30 year old a fair contract is a bit much. More like very generous contract(on phil's part) since thats more money than most players including top players liek lebron and durant

You really are just full of nothingness post. A 5 year deal is worth more than a 2 year, so I guess it's technically correct.

Knicksfan wrote:

knickscity wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:I wonder how Amare & Andrea will work in the triangle this coming season. Our rebounding and front court defense is pretty limited.

They wont be Knicks on opening night, neither one.

If we have to give up assets to do that, Id rather let them expire.

The backcourt is extremely crowded as well when you add JR Pablo and Jose.

Bargs imo will be traded first to any team with a decent big with passing ability.

I also dont think the Philly deal for Amare is dead....just dormant.

knickscity wrote:

Knicksfan wrote:

knickscity wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:I wonder how Amare & Andrea will work in the triangle this coming season. Our rebounding and front court defense is pretty limited.

They wont be Knicks on opening night, neither one.

If we have to give up assets to do that, Id rather let them expire.

Depends on what you call an asset. Just using the youth alone....Shump T-hard, Thanasis, Larkin, Early, Ellington, Cole....thats alot of youth that I seriously doubt Phil keeps on the roster.

The backcourt is extremely crowded as well when you add JR Pablo and Jose.

Bargs imo will be traded first to any team with a decent big with passing ability.

I also dont think the Philly deal for Amare is dead....just dormant.

I'm sure teams will be tripping over themselves to trade a talented big man to us in exchange for Bargnani.

Vmart wrote:

Anji wrote:

Vmart wrote:I still think this team goes as far as Amare takes them. Its Amare's contract year and he is going to break out. Big question is will he be a Knick?

I Might have imagined this, but I thought there was talk of the sixers being willing to part with Thaddeus in a Amare deal That's what I would want. Melo at the 3/4 and Thad at the 3/4.

I see Amare playing Center this year more than PF. Amare's best years came when he was primarily a center, it creates a lot of mismatches. I can see Melo at the 3/4 this year. I'm not going to sleep on Bargs to me he seems like a systems type and will thrive in the triangle. Some players need a system to follow and be comfortable in. It is also his contract year so his effort will be off the charts.

I agree with this. Bargs and amare are system players. And for those that have seen More Than A Game (the lebron doc) he's a system guy.

I can easily see bargs not performing in ISO/melo ball.

Bargs can pass and is a more athletic pau gasol.

I'm really pumped.

Vmart wrote:

Anji wrote:

Vmart wrote:I still think this team goes as far as Amare takes them. Its Amare's contract year and he is going to break out. Big question is will he be a Knick?

I Might have imagined this, but I thought there was talk of the sixers being willing to part with Thaddeus in a Amare deal That's what I would want. Melo at the 3/4 and Thad at the 3/4.

I see Amare playing Center this year more than PF. Amare's best years came when he was primarily a center, it creates a lot of mismatches. I can see Melo at the 3/4 this year. I'm not going to sleep on Bargs to me he seems like a systems type and will thrive in the triangle. Some players need a system to follow and be comfortable in. It is also his contract year so his effort will be off the charts.

It be nice to have more than small forward too....

mreinman wrote:

Vmart wrote:I still think this team goes as far as Amare takes them. Its Amare's contract year and he is going to break out. Big question is will he be a Knick?

yeah - Amare is gonna kill it this year!

I vote for A.Bargnani. I think he is really going to excel under D.Fisher

We have our cap situation in order. We have picks now and going forward. We have young assets still in place. We have a united front office. YES the Knicks are back. If a fan can't see the difference between how we're setup now compared to the recent past they really are lost. This is better than Walsh/MDA with Dolan interfering. This is better than Grunwald/Woodson with Dolan interfering. Phil is putting things in place and has a real plan for rebuilding this franchise that you can see already. This doesn't guarantee a title, but at least we're making smart moves now.

Bonn1997 wrote:You just state as if it is a fact that making him the highest paid player on the planet is a fair contract?!

5 years of mediocrity are headed the knicks way.. but hey, at least carmelo got paid and as we know for most fans, that is the MOST important thing.. good luck NY.

dk7th wrote:

Knixkik wrote:Now that we are resigning melo to what looks to be a fair contract there is a lot of good stuff falling into place for this team.

1. We have our franchise guy to start with. It will always be a debate how good he really is but he's our franchise player and seems to be the first real mainstay on this team since Ewing that brings a real identity to this team.

2. Phil has it covered. His first trade with the Knicks showed what he can do. He saw an opportunity and was in position of power with that deal, instead of the other way around which is typically the case. Most of us wanted a draft pick for tyson. Phil sold high and got rid of Felton at the same time. He added assets and unloaded dead weight at the same time. His approach to melo's free agency was also solid and netted a good outcome.

3. We are building back the pipeline of youth and assets. No more jokes with this team about trading every pick and having no young talent to develop or for future deals. Hardway jr, shumpert, larkin, early, and a couple of players stashed overseas represent a nice start to the future.

4. Cap space is right around the corner. We will have huge flexibility to add to an established core of vets and youth.

5. A real system and good culture. There is an identity with this team to build on top of.

Keep in mind we aren't a contender but there are at least a ton of things to get excited about to keep us going. We have a ton of opportunities moving forward.

1) the contract is not fair to the knicks it's outrageous.
2) one hopes that the team's identity is based on system basketball, and not merely one underachieving one-way player-- franchise guy? please
3) fifteen months and an entire season is not right around the corner.
4) a team culture is good only if players buy into it. primadonnas have a hard time buying in. they believe they ARE the culture as you have already unfortunately alluded to in (2).

i am resigned to being indifferent unless there is something truly miraculous coming up this year but the more likely event is that we will witness shouldergate.

all you have to do is take a look around the east... the heat just got deng... add in wade and bosh along with granger and mcroberts and the are a sure fire playoff team..if wade is healthy they can be a problem

cleveland for sure is a playoff team with lebron.. so I ask, looking at the east, one team is going to drop out of the playoffs considering the cavs will be in? where does that leave us with pretty much the same team, maybe worse than last year? where does that leave us next year, and the year after with the same guy sucking up a large portion of the salary cap.. as you said.. shoulder gate is here to rule..... LOL