Michael Beasley? Didn't he play well with Minnesota? We're they running the triangle at the time?

fitzfarm wrote:

Knicksfan wrote:People seem to have their favorite roster arrangement. Mine is more traditional:

C - Dalembert, Aldrich
PF- Amare, Bargnani
SF- Carmelo, Cleanthony
SG- Smith, THJ, Shumpert, Ellington
PG- Calderon, Prigioni, Larkin

Something definitely has to be done at SG. Who should go?

PF and C are super thin and Tyler isn't the answer. Who could be?

I like your line up but I think Aldrich beats out Sammy. At this stage of Sammy's career Aldrich is the better rebounder and rim protector as well as superior passing skills which is important for the triangle

Cole hasn't earned that respect yet. Dalembert has been 10pts/10rebs/2blks when playing starters minutes. Cole has never done that yet. He's just finally getting his shot with the knicks. I understand you liking coles game but you can't pretend dalembert hasn't had a solid NBA career.

EnySpree wrote:

fitzfarm wrote:

Knicksfan wrote:People seem to have their favorite roster arrangement. Mine is more traditional:

C - Dalembert, Aldrich
PF- Amare, Bargnani
SF- Carmelo, Cleanthony
SG- Smith, THJ, Shumpert, Ellington
PG- Calderon, Prigioni, Larkin

Something definitely has to be done at SG. Who should go?

PF and C are super thin and Tyler isn't the answer. Who could be?

I like your line up but I think Aldrich beats out Sammy. At this stage of Sammy's career Aldrich is the better rebounder and rim protector as well as superior passing skills which is important for the triangle

Cole hasn't earned that respect yet. Dalembert has been 10pts/10rebs/2blks when playing starters minutes. Cole has never done that yet. He's just finally getting his shot with the knicks. I understand you liking coles game but you can't pretend dalembert hasn't had a solid NBA career.

Oh no I like Sammy a lot and his career is solid, I just feel he would be better suited as a back up at this point in his career. Aldrich although hasn't posted those numbers yet in his very young career he really is ready to post those numbers this year.. I see Aldrich averaging 12/12/2+ ...I believe cole actually averaged a double double the last few games last year as well as getting one covering for Tyson's flu. Aldrich is the real deal he is just finally getting a shot.. But the talent was always there being drafted 11 th overall and buried behind cousins and Thompson he never got a shot...at this point in Sammy's career Aldrich is the better rebounder and rim protector, as well as a superior passer. Look up his highlights with the j hawks cole was the best defensive center in college at the time... Also the ball is attracted to this guy

Knicksfan wrote:

fitzfarm wrote:

Knicksfan wrote:People seem to have their favorite roster arrangement. Mine is more traditional:

C - Dalembert, Aldrich
PF- Amare, Bargnani
SF- Carmelo, Cleanthony
SG- Smith, THJ, Shumpert, Ellington
PG- Calderon, Prigioni, Larkin

Something definitely has to be done at SG. Who should go?

PF and C are super thin and Tyler isn't the answer. Who could be?

I like your line up but I think Aldrich beats out Sammy. At this stage of Sammy's career Aldrich is the better rebounder and rim protector as well as superior passing skills which is important for the triangle

Could happen, but I wonder if Fisher will go the experience route at first. It will probably be "whoever wins starting nods and Melo", in which case Aldrich could start from the beginning. Dalembert isn't done, though, and he was really excited about being in NY.

Agreed it might take time but I do see cole taking over the starting role eventually if not from the beginning.

EnySpree wrote:

fitzfarm wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

fitzfarm wrote:

Knicksfan wrote:People seem to have their favorite roster arrangement. Mine is more traditional:

C - Dalembert, Aldrich
PF- Amare, Bargnani
SF- Carmelo, Cleanthony
SG- Smith, THJ, Shumpert, Ellington
PG- Calderon, Prigioni, Larkin

Something definitely has to be done at SG. Who should go?

PF and C are super thin and Tyler isn't the answer. Who could be?

I like your line up but I think Aldrich beats out Sammy. At this stage of Sammy's career Aldrich is the better rebounder and rim protector as well as superior passing skills which is important for the triangle

Cole hasn't earned that respect yet. Dalembert has been 10pts/10rebs/2blks when playing starters minutes. Cole has never done that yet. He's just finally getting his shot with the knicks. I understand you liking coles game but you can't pretend dalembert hasn't had a solid NBA career.

Oh no I like Sammy a lot and his career is solid, I just feel he would be better suited as a back up at this point in his career. Aldrich although hasn't posted those numbers yet in his very young career he really is ready to post those numbers this year.. I see Aldrich averaging 12/12/2+ ...I believe cole actually averaged a double double the last few games last year as well as getting one covering for Tyson's flu. Aldrich is the real deal he is just finally getting a shot.. But the talent was always there being drafted 11 th overall and buried behind cousins and Thompson he never got a shot...at this point in Sammy's career Aldrich is the better rebounder and rim protector, as well as a superior passer. Look up his highlights with the j hawks cole was the best defensive center in college at the time... Also the ball is attracted to this guy

At this point you can't say Cole is a better anything than dalembert. You just can't. Saying Cole can average 12/12/2 is better numbers than Tysons ever had in his career. Cole is that good right now after never doing that consistently in his career? That's a reach big time. You are basically calling Cole an all star. He's not that guy yet and hasn't earned that praise yet. He Prove me wrong but at this stage Cole is lucky the knicks even gave him a shot.

There's this stigma with dalembert like he's been a bum his whole career but he's put up better numbers than Tyson chandler his whole career. That's a fact. Yet Sam all gets no respect. I think that's a shame

Agreed I do like Sammy a lot and think he is a upgrade from Tyson way over rated Chandler ... I also think cole is a huge upgrade over Tyson even though he hasn't gotten a chance ..there's a reason Phil signed cole so quickly after his beastly showing in the summer league. Cole played better then Tyson last year in limited action ... If we didn't have the worst coach in the league last year who repeatly called Tyson (arguably the most over rated player in the league) was his best defensive player .( which is just laughable) Fishers going to give cole his shot... And when he post double doubles like he did at the end of last year and when he started for Tyson's flu... Fisher is going to play this kid big minutes..I really don't think 12/12/and 2 + is far fetched ... Cole is going to blossom this year

fitzfarm wrote:Sammy might start in the beginning but I see cole taking over as starter... No knock on Sammy I really like him and think the 2 could form a really nice tandem at the 5 spot..

Honestly, I see a lot of small ball lineups with Barge and STAT at center. Dalembert will probably start, but I don't see him finishing out most nights.

2013-14 Stats: 53 games played, 6.8 points, 5.8 rebounds, 0.7 assists, 17.4 PER

Injury forced Jeff Adrien out of the rotation in Charlotte last season and mediocrity in Milwaukee made the undersized power forward a forgotten name.

Defensively Adrien is solid. In Charlotte, the Hornets posted a defensive rating of 96.8 when Adrien was on the floor; 101.6 when off. The sample size is small–Adrien only played 271 minutes with the Hornets–but in the previous season with the Hornets, the defensive rating improved by 8 points when Adrien stepped on the floor.

And while that’s a plus, Adrien’s true impact comes on the boards. Despite his height, Adrien has proved to be one of the best rebounders in the NBA these last two seasons. With Adrien on the floor, the Bobcats improved their offensive rebound percentage by nearly 10 points (19.8% to 27.2%). With the Bucks, both the offensive rebound percentage (27.4% to 30.9%) and defensive rebound percentage (69.3% to 73.7%) increased.

After a short stay in Brooklyn, Paul Pierce is heading to the Washington Wizards.

Sources close to the process told ESPN.com on Saturday that Pierce has committed to sign a two-year, $11 million deal with the Wizards, who moved swiftly to find a title-tested replacement for Trevor Ariza after Ariza struck an agreement earlier in the day to join the Houston Rockets.

The contract, sources said, has a player option after this season that will allow Pierce, 36, to return to free agency next summer if he chooses.

newyorknewyork wrote:Jeff Adrien

2013-14 Stats: 53 games played, 6.8 points, 5.8 rebounds, 0.7 assists, 17.4 PER

Injury forced Jeff Adrien out of the rotation in Charlotte last season and mediocrity in Milwaukee made the undersized power forward a forgotten name.

Defensively Adrien is solid. In Charlotte, the Hornets posted a defensive rating of 96.8 when Adrien was on the floor; 101.6 when off. The sample size is small–Adrien only played 271 minutes with the Hornets–but in the previous season with the Hornets, the defensive rating improved by 8 points when Adrien stepped on the floor.

And while that’s a plus, Adrien’s true impact comes on the boards. Despite his height, Adrien has proved to be one of the best rebounders in the NBA these last two seasons. With Adrien on the floor, the Bobcats improved their offensive rebound percentage by nearly 10 points (19.8% to 27.2%). With the Bucks, both the offensive rebound percentage (27.4% to 30.9%) and defensive rebound percentage (69.3% to 73.7%) increased.

I like Adrien as well. He'd be perfect for a 3year6mm contract. If we need the cap space next year its an easy contract to get rid of. He's under rated tough team orientated and productive per minute on both ends of the court

newyorknewyork wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:Jeff Adrien

2013-14 Stats: 53 games played, 6.8 points, 5.8 rebounds, 0.7 assists, 17.4 PER

Injury forced Jeff Adrien out of the rotation in Charlotte last season and mediocrity in Milwaukee made the undersized power forward a forgotten name.

Defensively Adrien is solid. In Charlotte, the Hornets posted a defensive rating of 96.8 when Adrien was on the floor; 101.6 when off. The sample size is small–Adrien only played 271 minutes with the Hornets–but in the previous season with the Hornets, the defensive rating improved by 8 points when Adrien stepped on the floor.

And while that’s a plus, Adrien’s true impact comes on the boards. Despite his height, Adrien has proved to be one of the best rebounders in the NBA these last two seasons. With Adrien on the floor, the Bobcats improved their offensive rebound percentage by nearly 10 points (19.8% to 27.2%). With the Bucks, both the offensive rebound percentage (27.4% to 30.9%) and defensive rebound percentage (69.3% to 73.7%) increased.

I like Adrien as well. He'd be perfect for a 3year6mm contract. If we need the cap space next year its an easy contract to get rid of. He's under rated tough team orientated and productive per minute on both ends of the court

He fills a need, good guy to pair up with Amare or Andrea doing the things they don't & vise versa.

He could become a poor mans Rodman. Which would be interesting. Adrien has 11.5 rebs per 36 minutes which is pretty good.