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BigDaddyG
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7/12/2014  6:00 PM
C'mon Cleanthony. You gotta dunk that.
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7/12/2014  6:07 PM
Good learning experience for Early. Great make for Larkin staying within the offense. The SL Knicks are really sticking to the Triangle and it paid off in the end with better shots. These kids still have a lot to learn but I like what i've seen from our kids. Good talent to continue to develop.
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7/12/2014  6:10 PM
Lot of room to improve, especially in terms of staying in front on D and not leaving his feet on fakes, but Larkin is a competitor. You see some glimpses of him being a gamer and an idea of how quick he is, and you know that the guy has a place in the league.

Wonder how Phil sees him and what the Knicks can do to maximize his talents.

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Clean
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7/12/2014  6:11 PM
nixluva wrote:Good learning experience for Early. Great make for Larkin staying within the offense. The SL Knicks are really sticking to the Triangle and it paid off in the end with better shots. These kids still have a lot to learn but I like what i've seen from our kids. Good talent to continue to develop.

I love how when the play at the end failed but they got the rebound they did not look lost. Every single player went right back into the triangle offense without hesitation or anyone being confused. This is system basketball fellas!! No more end of the game confusion like last season.

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7/12/2014  7:59 PM
Clean wrote:
nixluva wrote:Good learning experience for Early. Great make for Larkin staying within the offense. The SL Knicks are really sticking to the Triangle and it paid off in the end with better shots. These kids still have a lot to learn but I like what i've seen from our kids. Good talent to continue to develop.

I love how when the play at the end failed but they got the rebound they did not look lost. Every single player went right back into the triangle offense without hesitation or anyone being confused. This is system basketball fellas!! No more end of the game confusion like last season.

When we were complaining about the horrid play of the Knicks last year, this is what we were talking about. If you know what you're doing as a team, you don't have guys out there winging it and making huge mistakes at the end of games like we did last year.

This year our team will be prepared and they'll have some idea of what to do in close situations. it won't be just stand there and stare at Melo.

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7/12/2014  9:05 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:I hope Eny is watching. This is the closest Bobby Brown will ever come to a Knicks uniform lol

Don't be cruel

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7/12/2014  10:15 PM
Man, Larkin is QUICK. Wow. Quick feet, quick to recover, quick to cut his man off and quick hands on D.

I think Tyler's a train wreck -- we can do much better here. Sorry but I don't see it with this guy at all. Not overly impressed with THJ either to be honest. Dude's a gunner and a good transition player but what else? Absolutely no game off the dribble at all. Can't create his own shot for ****. You get up into this dude and it's over.

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7/12/2014  10:44 PM
Finestrg wrote:Man, Larkin is QUICK. Wow. Quick feet, quick to recover, quick to cut his man off and quick hands on D.

I think Tyler's a train wreck -- we can do much better here. Sorry but I don't see it with this guy at all. Not overly impressed with THJ either to be honest. Dude's a gunner and a good transition player but what else? Absolutely no game off the dribble at all. Can't create his own shot for ****. You get up into this dude and it's over.

Tyler is not a very smart player. He looks like he's thinking too much. His skill level is off the chain though. I can't give up on him yet. I think he will steadily improve as this goes on. But he does look bad on hand 1.

thjr still not contributing to the game outside of shooting and transition. He doesn't pass he can't defend he doesn't rebound.

A little disappointed with both guys so far.

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7/12/2014  10:45 PM
Finestrg wrote:Man, Larkin is QUICK. Wow. Quick feet, quick to recover, quick to cut his man off and quick hands on D.

I think Tyler's a train wreck -- we can do much better here. Sorry but I don't see it with this guy at all. Not overly impressed with THJ either to be honest. Dude's a gunner and a good transition player but what else? Absolutely no game off the dribble at all. Can't create his own shot for ****. You get up into this dude and it's over.

I'm starting to agree with you on Tyler he needs to work on his balance and ball control still love his jumper.. But dude is still raw and young ... As for thjr I completely disagree he's a five way scorer. He hits open j's,drives to the hoop, gets to the line,best transition player on the team, he dose create his own shot 10 of his points today were created by his own ability 3 driving to the hoop from the 3 point line one turn around Jordan like jumper and a runner that turned into a and 1... Also playing like a man vs boys in the sl so far.Thjr is a future all star... If jr was not on the team and thjr started he would be a 20 plus per game player.

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7/12/2014  10:48 PM
Finestrg wrote:Man, Larkin is QUICK. Wow. Quick feet, quick to recover, quick to cut his man off and quick hands on D.

I think Tyler's a train wreck -- we can do much better here. Sorry but I don't see it with this guy at all. Not overly impressed with THJ either to be honest. Dude's a gunner and a good transition player but what else? Absolutely no game off the dribble at all. Can't create his own shot for ****. You get up into this dude and it's over.


You have to relax with the overcritical stuff when it comes to THJ. He's not perfect, but he has talent and we need to allow him to continue to develop. We're still waiting for JR to figure out that driving to the hole isn't illegal. With the Triangle offense the emphasis isn't on individual creativity. That's the plus for our team. They don't have to force it. Just let the game come to them and leave the hero stuff for Melo. Stick to the system just like the Spurs did. THJ, Early etc, will have just enough dribble drive to be effective, while not being over reliant on it. No more pounding the ball.
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7/12/2014  10:49 PM
fitzfarm wrote:
Finestrg wrote:Man, Larkin is QUICK. Wow. Quick feet, quick to recover, quick to cut his man off and quick hands on D.

I think Tyler's a train wreck -- we can do much better here. Sorry but I don't see it with this guy at all. Not overly impressed with THJ either to be honest. Dude's a gunner and a good transition player but what else? Absolutely no game off the dribble at all. Can't create his own shot for ****. You get up into this dude and it's over.

I'm starting to agree with you on Tyler he needs to work on his balance and ball control still love his jumper.. But dude is still raw and young ... As for thjr I completely disagree he's a five way scorer. He hits open j's,drives to the hoop, gets to the line,best transition player on the team, he dose create his own shot 10 of his points today were created by his own ability 3 driving to the hoop from the 3 point line one turn around Jordan like jumper and a runner that turned into a and 1... Also playing like a man vs boys in the sl so far.Thjr is a future all star... If jr was not on the team and thjr started he would be a 20 plus per game player.

I didn't realize but as currently constructed the Knicks only have 2 roster spots available and they haven't used the 3.2 mle yet. Berman said today that they also have their bi-annual 2.2 exception. Not sure that Tyler makes the team unless there is A trade.
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7/12/2014  10:50 PM
fitzfarm wrote:
Finestrg wrote:Man, Larkin is QUICK. Wow. Quick feet, quick to recover, quick to cut his man off and quick hands on D.

I think Tyler's a train wreck -- we can do much better here. Sorry but I don't see it with this guy at all. Not overly impressed with THJ either to be honest. Dude's a gunner and a good transition player but what else? Absolutely no game off the dribble at all. Can't create his own shot for ****. You get up into this dude and it's over.

I'm starting to agree with you on Tyler he needs to work on his balance and ball control still love his jumper.. But dude is still raw and young ... As for thjr I completely disagree he's a five way scorer. He hits open j's,drives to the hoop, gets to the line,best transition player on the team, he dose create his own shot 10 of his points today were created by his own ability 3 driving to the hoop from the 3 point line one turn around Jordan like jumper and a runner that turned into a and 1... Also playing like a man vs boys in the sl so far.Thjr is a future all star... If jr was not on the team and thjr started he would be a 20 plus per game player.

Thjr can't be an all star averaging 1 assist and 1 rebound a game....at the sane time Derozen had the sane problem but got better every year and now he's a legit multi threat player.

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7/12/2014  10:54 PM
Cleanathony can shoot it... Looking like Shep in the movie Above the rim
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7/12/2014  10:55 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:
Finestrg wrote:Man, Larkin is QUICK. Wow. Quick feet, quick to recover, quick to cut his man off and quick hands on D.

I think Tyler's a train wreck -- we can do much better here. Sorry but I don't see it with this guy at all. Not overly impressed with THJ either to be honest. Dude's a gunner and a good transition player but what else? Absolutely no game off the dribble at all. Can't create his own shot for ****. You get up into this dude and it's over.

I'm starting to agree with you on Tyler he needs to work on his balance and ball control still love his jumper.. But dude is still raw and young ... As for thjr I completely disagree he's a five way scorer. He hits open j's,drives to the hoop, gets to the line,best transition player on the team, he dose create his own shot 10 of his points today were created by his own ability 3 driving to the hoop from the 3 point line one turn around Jordan like jumper and a runner that turned into a and 1... Also playing like a man vs boys in the sl so far.Thjr is a future all star... If jr was not on the team and thjr started he would be a 20 plus per game player.

I didn't realize but as currently constructed the Knicks only have 2 roster spots available and they haven't used the 3.2 mle yet. Berman said today that they also have their bi-annual 2.2 exception. Not sure that Tyler makes the team unless there is A trade.

Also, Brown might not make it either.
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7/12/2014  11:05 PM
EnySpree wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:
Finestrg wrote:Man, Larkin is QUICK. Wow. Quick feet, quick to recover, quick to cut his man off and quick hands on D.

I think Tyler's a train wreck -- we can do much better here. Sorry but I don't see it with this guy at all. Not overly impressed with THJ either to be honest. Dude's a gunner and a good transition player but what else? Absolutely no game off the dribble at all. Can't create his own shot for ****. You get up into this dude and it's over.

I'm starting to agree with you on Tyler he needs to work on his balance and ball control still love his jumper.. But dude is still raw and young ... As for thjr I completely disagree he's a five way scorer. He hits open j's,drives to the hoop, gets to the line,best transition player on the team, he dose create his own shot 10 of his points today were created by his own ability 3 driving to the hoop from the 3 point line one turn around Jordan like jumper and a runner that turned into a and 1... Also playing like a man vs boys in the sl so far.Thjr is a future all star... If jr was not on the team and thjr started he would be a 20 plus per game player.

Thjr can't be an all star averaging 1 assist and 1 rebound a game....at the sane time Derozen had the sane problem but got better every year and now he's a legit multi threat player.

He's only 22 those parts of his game will come ... The 22 year old can score in five different ways which makes me realize he's the best scorer and shooter in his draft class..

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7/12/2014  11:10 PM
fitzfarm wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:
Finestrg wrote:Man, Larkin is QUICK. Wow. Quick feet, quick to recover, quick to cut his man off and quick hands on D.

I think Tyler's a train wreck -- we can do much better here. Sorry but I don't see it with this guy at all. Not overly impressed with THJ either to be honest. Dude's a gunner and a good transition player but what else? Absolutely no game off the dribble at all. Can't create his own shot for ****. You get up into this dude and it's over.

I'm starting to agree with you on Tyler he needs to work on his balance and ball control still love his jumper.. But dude is still raw and young ... As for thjr I completely disagree he's a five way scorer. He hits open j's,drives to the hoop, gets to the line,best transition player on the team, he dose create his own shot 10 of his points today were created by his own ability 3 driving to the hoop from the 3 point line one turn around Jordan like jumper and a runner that turned into a and 1... Also playing like a man vs boys in the sl so far.Thjr is a future all star... If jr was not on the team and thjr started he would be a 20 plus per game player.

Thjr can't be an all star averaging 1 assist and 1 rebound a game....at the sane time Derozen had the sane problem but got better every year and now he's a legit multi threat player.

He's only 22 those parts of his game will come ... The 22 year old can score in five different ways which makes me realize he's the best scorer and shooter in his draft class..


Agree on THJ. Caldwell Pope showed improvement in Orlando, but I think THJ is proving to be the best shooter in a weak class. If Stacey King can play in this system then I'm confident Tyler will pick it up.
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7/12/2014  11:16 PM
I think thjr will be the 6th man off the bench this year 16 per 3.9 boards and 3.1 assists very Reggie miller like for his second year
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7/12/2014  11:19 PM
Semi ot Clyde is doing the Philly Utah game on nba tv interesting to see him speak for other teams
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7/12/2014  11:22 PM
Stacy King bitch!
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7/12/2014  11:24 PM
fitzfarm wrote:I think thjr will be the 6th man off the bench this year 16 per 3.9 boards and 3.1 assists very Reggie miller like for his second year

He hasn't shown he can get the rebounds and assists yet. Besides if you think he can do that than we need to get rid of Stump or JR...shump has value. This is a never ending argument for me.

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