GustavBahler wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:Something doesn't make sense. It's reported that Melo was offered the max but he would take less. Something is missing bc if he was offered the max, he should take it. If the Knicks don't care about the cap space, why should he? I'm sure Melo loves the team and is a dammed decent guy but I would never do that if I were him. I am just talking about his point of view though. If I were the Knicks, I would never offer him a max contract.

Phil probably explained multiple scenarios. One with him taking the max and another with him taking a smaller salary. Phil probably showed the potential options he would have if Melo took less.

So while the max is on the table, he probably gave Melo something to think about.

I agree, thats probably what happened.

I may be way off but here's what I think may be happening. The Knicks have not made any offers to Melo. Instead Phil had discussed various scenarios with him of how the team would be built at various price levels for him. Then he has asked Melo to come back worth what he thinks is the right price for himself and the best approach to build a contender. We are not committed to anything yet but we haven't taken anything of the table either. Once Melo comes back we can agree to what he wants, make a counter offer or move on.

meloshouldgo wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:Something doesn't make sense. It's reported that Melo was offered the max but he would take less. Something is missing bc if he was offered the max, he should take it. If the Knicks don't care about the cap space, why should he? I'm sure Melo loves the team and is a dammed decent guy but I would never do that if I were him. I am just talking about his point of view though. If I were the Knicks, I would never offer him a max contract.

Phil probably explained multiple scenarios. One with him taking the max and another with him taking a smaller salary. Phil probably showed the potential options he would have if Melo took less.

So while the max is on the table, he probably gave Melo something to think about.

I agree, thats probably what happened.

I may be way off but here's what I think may be happening. The Knicks have not made any offers to Melo. Instead Phil had discussed various scenarios with him of how the team would be built at various price levels for him. Then he has asked Melo to come back worth what he thinks is the right price for himself and the best approach to build a contender. We are not committed to anything yet but we haven't taken anything of the table either. Once Melo comes back we can agree to what he wants, make a counter offer or move on.

I think that's a pretty reasonable scenario. Melo and Phil are not stupid and putting all the cards on the table is the right approach so both sides understand what the possibilities are at different price points.

newyorknewyork wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:Something doesn't make sense. It's reported that Melo was offered the max but he would take less. Something is missing bc if he was offered the max, he should take it. If the Knicks don't care about the cap space, why should he? I'm sure Melo loves the team and is a dammed decent guy but I would never do that if I were him. I am just talking about his point of view though. If I were the Knicks, I would never offer him a max contract.

Phil probably explained multiple scenarios. One with him taking the max and another with him taking a smaller salary. Phil probably showed the potential options he would have if Melo took less.

So while the max is on the table, he probably gave Melo something to think about.

I agree, thats probably what happened.

I may be way off but here's what I think may be happening. The Knicks have not made any offers to Melo. Instead Phil had discussed various scenarios with him of how the team would be built at various price levels for him. Then he has asked Melo to come back worth what he thinks is the right price for himself and the best approach to build a contender. We are not committed to anything yet but we haven't taken anything of the table either. Once Melo comes back we can agree to what he wants, make a counter offer or move on.

Sounds more like wishful thinking on your part.

You are probably right. But this is a team that announced they would match Lin for any amount on a press conference (at least tge wooden headed head coach did) and then didn't even make him an offer. So anything is possible.

gunsnewing wrote:Wow that took way too much effort lol

not really. for some reason "order of magnitude" or what is more commonly known as "powers of ten" eludes people, especially Carmelo Anthony.

so i took a different route to show what an absurd amount of money he makes.

GustavBahler wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:Something doesn't make sense. It's reported that Melo was offered the max but he would take less. Something is missing bc if he was offered the max, he should take it. If the Knicks don't care about the cap space, why should he? I'm sure Melo loves the team and is a dammed decent guy but I would never do that if I were him. I am just talking about his point of view though. If I were the Knicks, I would never offer him a max contract.

Phil probably explained multiple scenarios. One with him taking the max and another with him taking a smaller salary. Phil probably showed the potential options he would have if Melo took less.

So while the max is on the table, he probably gave Melo something to think about.

I agree, thats probably what happened.

I may be way off but here's what I think may be happening. The Knicks have not made any offers to Melo. Instead Phil had discussed various scenarios with him of how the team would be built at various price levels for him. Then he has asked Melo to come back worth what he thinks is the right price for himself and the best approach to build a contender. We are not committed to anything yet but we haven't taken anything of the table either. Once Melo comes back we can agree to what he wants, make a counter offer or move on.

Sounds more like wishful thinking on your part.

You are probably right. But this is a team that announced they would match Lin for any amount on a press conference (at least tge wooden headed head coach did) and then didn't even make him an offer. So anything is possible.

I think you're both right that Phil tried to subtly steer Melo towards taking less (with his Zen magic), that it would be in his best interest as a player who wants a ring to do so. We should know soon enough if it worked.

Papabear Says

Melo did say he would take less during the all-star break. So if he takes less he is keeping to his word. I never heard anything different. Phil Jackson was the one who put fire on Melo's words. I think Phil got his PR together and him and Melo is on the same page. It will be a wonderful thing seeing Melo back with the Knicks with that smile of his and a clear path to a championship mastermind by the Zen master.

Major impact huh?

anrst wrote:Simmons tweeting that the lakers had "major impact" on melo

Major impact huh?

Simply doesn't work in cap to allocate that much to any player, let alone volume shooter who chose not to play for prior coach with 'pass the ball system' (MDA), and, i doubt will change his game for this regime.

Even the Yankees - operating without any cap - damaged by long term 'max' contracts for players (CC, Jeter, Arod, Tex) who aren't playing, or, are fractions of their former selves.

Amazing sport the NBA - where folks view contracts expiring as a major asset. NYK history - hamstrung by Houston's deal, then, Amare's, to once again offer contract which will likely be as unproductive as those - makes no sense.

THey went for it, and I give Dolan credit - thought pairing Melo and Amare - and Tyson - would be our version of Big Three - but for host of reasons (including, when Amare was healthy, he and Melo seemingly unable to be on court together since each couldnt (wouldn't?) play in theother's preferred offensive system), it didn't work. Tyson gone, Stat contract done soon - extending Melo for 5 years a mistake, in my view.....