TFK, your philosophy of evaluating talents are completely flawed, when you want to establish your own opinions you realize it, but when you want don't agree with the evaluation you use it against it
Especially when it is towards younger players, especially rookies, and rookie contracts
I will just name a couple of scenarios where I can prove your system is flawed
I think we all understand that STAT's/NUMBERS can be completely misleading
A reason why I feel Melo was overvalued here in NYK because of Woodson giving every shot/opportunity to Melo to generate STAT's and playing favorites for SET lineups/plays/roatations
What you say is more of a system that measures "VALUE" more than evaluating talent especially for GMs/Trades *etc* itself...
If you measure talents judged on NUMBERS, PLAYING TIME, and playing over other contracts were true,
Vucevic (which did not play at all in his rookie year)
Tobias Harris prior to going to Orlando where he got the opportunity to display his talents
Lin (prior to Linsanity)
Now on Houston, comparing Lin with Harden/Patrick Beverely instead but when either Harden/Beverely was out, Lin has shown his abilities
Fields and Novak's up and downs, depending on HOW THEY WERE UTILIZED and WHAT SYSTEM they played with along with the talents/philosophy of the team...
Gereld Green from Nets to Pacers where he got NO PT and didn't fit in the philosophy and wasn't utilized to his strengths but as soon as he was traded to Sun's he was very productive
Miles Plumlee who couldn't play behind Hibbert, Mahimi, David West, and he showed what he do when given the opportunity to play
Most importantly for the players from Pacer's to Suns, playing with a PG that pushes the tempo, with the ability to penetrate and finish, in addition to the capability of facilitating/initiating an OFFENSE/creating for others, also with other players that can play DEF and space the floor
Also for Bledsoe, who didn't have much of a role on the Clippers behind CP3, but when given the chance displayed his abilities
For Knicks,
Chandler was a BAD FIT with this roster
When either STAT/AB/Tyler/Alrich all played at C, the team played completely different because of their mobility/ability to score
Kmart's versatility and ability to DEFEND/REBOUND/even some post ups/finish/facilitate/ playing better PnR's/HELP DEFENSE etc, was the glue to Chandler/Iman with the rest of the team, with only Tyler only able to come close but he played much better at C
As I said earlier, Melo's STAT's were manipulated from the start, with Woodson's system or lack off
Tyler is another play with Alrich, who didn't get much opportunities to play and was given up by a few teams but they have shown they can play vital roles if given the chance
Why Tyler never got a chance for an expanded role, with Alrich, and Copeland despite showing their abilities? (Look back in the Tyler thread and see that he does EVERYTHING much better, allowing the team the play a different way with his abilities from athleticism/mobility/ability to finish/rebound/score/shoot, OFF REBOUND/challenge shots etc...
Why was Novak not utilized with double screens and the combination of player movement/screens off and off the ball/ and addition to penetration and MOVING THE BALL despite all the success that was shown when utilized correctly that helped him with that contract he has now?
Iman was horrible utilized and not developed to his strengths on a poor system with Woodson, in addition to his injury that set him back, he surely is NOT a SF
I am not saying that all these players all will be better than they are ranked, I am saying that they are better than their numbers, playing many other factors from coach/systems/ development/ roster and even others factors playing a role in the evaluation of talents