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tj23
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6/25/2014  11:36 PM
EnySpree wrote:Big tings a gwon....

So this Chris Broussard rumor that we all laughed at as being something he made up makes sense....

Houston could trade Harden to NY for Melo.....then Lebron could sign with Houston straight up.

All they have to do is get rid of Lin the same way they got rid of Asik....

Also could these second round picks, Larkin and Wellington be flipped to Houston to make this all work?

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What's their cap situation now? Sorry to be a downer but isn't it possible Houston flat out signs Melo and flips Harden for LBJ or even with a completely different team just for a pick(s)? Do they have to match salaries?
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6/25/2014  11:47 PM
tj23 wrote:
EnySpree wrote:Big tings a gwon....

So this Chris Broussard rumor that we all laughed at as being something he made up makes sense....

Houston could trade Harden to NY for Melo.....then Lebron could sign with Houston straight up.

All they have to do is get rid of Lin the same way they got rid of Asik....

Also could these second round picks, Larkin and Wellington be flipped to Houston to make this all work?

In Phil we trust mother****ers


What's their cap situation now? Sorry to be a downer but isn't it possible Houston flat out signs Melo and flips Harden for LBJ or even with a completely different team just for a pick(s)? Do they have to match salaries?

yeah Harden could be traded for Lebron or Melo.....they could also just sign Lebron or Melo and Keep Harden.

if Bosh and Wade both opt in then the salaries would have to match. If Bosh opts out then I guess it doesn't. I can't see Wade opting out.

now that I'm thinking about it, Bosh could fit in Houston as well if he decides to opt out.

interesting **** going on

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6/26/2014  12:14 AM
Knicks, Rockets Could Discuss Carmelo For Harden Sign-And-Trade
Jun 25, 2014 2:08 PM EDT

In a radio appearance, Chris Broussard reported that the Houston Rockets and New York Knicks could agree upon a sign-and-trade of Carmelo Anthony for James Harden.

The Rockets could then sign LeBron James with anticipated cap space created by trading away Omer Asik and Jeremy Lin in order to form a Big 3 with Anthony and Dwight Howard.

James and Anthony have reported interest in playing together.

Harden was a first-team All-NBA selection, but there have been questions on whether his game fits with Howard.

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6/26/2014  12:18 AM
The Rockets only have about 7 million in space minus a cap hold for their own first rounder. This alone doesn't make them a Melo threat.
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6/26/2014  3:02 AM
I'm pretty sure that if the Pelicans wanted Tyson they could've gotten him. They clearly wanted Asik, who is younger than Tyson and cheaper. It's not just who we want to get but what other teams want for their roster as well. Who knows what the Pelicans thought of Tyson at this point in his career. Just cuz he has the bigger name doesn't mean he has the bigger value in the eyes of other teams.
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6/26/2014  4:46 AM
It's an interesting trade for both teams but isn't a draft pick low for Asik? Earlier--and granted these trades didn't happen--Houston was asking 3 picks, 2 picks, half of Anthony, Ilyasova. Even if Houston overvalued Asik earlier, one average draft pick seems like a steal for Asik.
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6/26/2014  5:07 AM
Pick 18 in this deep draft is good value for asik
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6/26/2014  5:59 AM
All the money Pelicans spent last off season and they still have the money to eat 15 mil in cap space or is it 8mil.

Houston also now got a 15 or 8mil trade exception.

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6/26/2014  7:56 AM
gunsnewing wrote:Pick 18 in this deep draft is good value for asik

??? Where did this come from? The pick is in next years draft not this year. Also still to be determined where the pick is

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6/26/2014  8:03 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/26/2014  8:16 AM
BigRedDog wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Pick 18 in this deep draft is good value for asik

??? Where did this come from? The pick is in next years draft not this year. Also still to be determined where the pick is

I might've syked myself out. It's a good trade for the pelicans. Good for Houston too. They got a 1st and they don't need asik
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6/26/2014  8:14 AM
CrushAlot wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
EnySpree wrote:Big tings a gwon....

So this Chris Broussard rumor that we all laughed at as being something he made up makes sense....

Houston could trade Harden to NY for Melo.....then Lebron could sign with Houston straight up.

All they have to do is get rid of Lin the same way they got rid of Asik....

Also could these second round picks, Larkin and Wellington be flipped to Houston to make this all work?

In Phil we trust mother****ers


I messed around on trade machine earlier and plugged asik in from the rockets (Lin's deal is identical). The Knicks could send dalembert, Murry, kmart, aldrich and another non guaranteed deal and it worked. My thought was to get the 25th pick in the deal. The Knicks don't need Lin and they need dalembert.

What about the idea of getting Harden for Melo though?

I don't want to think about it. Not a fan of harden. I know he is reay good I just don't want him in ny.


Why not? Are you thinking of him as a franchise player? Look at his salary. He's basically paid to be a #3. We could get him and have tons of room for more top players.
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6/26/2014  8:20 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/26/2014  8:29 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
EnySpree wrote:Big tings a gwon....

So this Chris Broussard rumor that we all laughed at as being something he made up makes sense....

Houston could trade Harden to NY for Melo.....then Lebron could sign with Houston straight up.

All they have to do is get rid of Lin the same way they got rid of Asik....

Also could these second round picks, Larkin and Wellington be flipped to Houston to make this all work?

In Phil we trust mother****ers


I messed around on trade machine earlier and plugged asik in from the rockets (Lin's deal is identical). The Knicks could send dalembert, Murry, kmart, aldrich and another non guaranteed deal and it worked. My thought was to get the 25th pick in the deal. The Knicks don't need Lin and they need dalembert.

What about the idea of getting Harden for Melo though?

I don't want to think about it. Not a fan of harden. I know he is reay good I just don't want him in ny.


Why not? Are you thinking of him as a franchise player? Look at his salary. He's basically paid to be a #3. We could get him and have tons of room for more top players.

Yea there's no reason not to want harden over Melo. Cheaper & younger. Made a thread months ago about making this trade.

I would explore other options but if we are looking to rebuild while still remaining competive with flexibility I'm all for trading Melo for harden.

I'm sure everyone will be singing his praises when he is putting up those efficient numbers wearing the orange and blue.

Houston might do it thinking Melo is the missing piece.

Both players are Robins to a batman. Harden is younger and cheaper making it easier to land Batman
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6/26/2014  8:27 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
EnySpree wrote:Big tings a gwon....

So this Chris Broussard rumor that we all laughed at as being something he made up makes sense....

Houston could trade Harden to NY for Melo.....then Lebron could sign with Houston straight up.

All they have to do is get rid of Lin the same way they got rid of Asik....

Also could these second round picks, Larkin and Wellington be flipped to Houston to make this all work?

In Phil we trust mother****ers


I messed around on trade machine earlier and plugged asik in from the rockets (Lin's deal is identical). The Knicks could send dalembert, Murry, kmart, aldrich and another non guaranteed deal and it worked. My thought was to get the 25th pick in the deal. The Knicks don't need Lin and they need dalembert.

What about the idea of getting Harden for Melo though?

I don't want to think about it. Not a fan of harden. I know he is reay good I just don't want him in ny.


Why not? Are you thinking of him as a franchise player? Look at his salary. He's basically paid to be a #3. We could get him and have tons of room for more top players.
because he plays zero defense and doesnt appear to have any interest in doing so. He's a TO machine and his playoff performances have been utterly dreadful. Your right... his contract and regular season production are very attractive and worst case he certainly represents value in that regard (no sarcasm) so worst case if there is a S&T we get a nice asset back
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6/26/2014  8:31 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/26/2014  8:37 AM
Ok so we are all on the same page.

By the way melo's playoff career has been awful and a much larger sample size.

At least harden was awesome in the playoffs for OKC

So you see how he can be an awesome Robin to a Batman

Melo isasy on defense, is older, makes more and has bum shoulders and 11yrs of mileage
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6/26/2014  8:34 AM
fishmike wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
EnySpree wrote:Big tings a gwon....

So this Chris Broussard rumor that we all laughed at as being something he made up makes sense....

Houston could trade Harden to NY for Melo.....then Lebron could sign with Houston straight up.

All they have to do is get rid of Lin the same way they got rid of Asik....

Also could these second round picks, Larkin and Wellington be flipped to Houston to make this all work?

In Phil we trust mother****ers


I messed around on trade machine earlier and plugged asik in from the rockets (Lin's deal is identical). The Knicks could send dalembert, Murry, kmart, aldrich and another non guaranteed deal and it worked. My thought was to get the 25th pick in the deal. The Knicks don't need Lin and they need dalembert.

What about the idea of getting Harden for Melo though?

I don't want to think about it. Not a fan of harden. I know he is reay good I just don't want him in ny.


Why not? Are you thinking of him as a franchise player? Look at his salary. He's basically paid to be a #3. We could get him and have tons of room for more top players.
because he plays zero defense and doesnt appear to have any interest in doing so. He's a TO machine and his playoff performances have been utterly dreadful. Your right... his contract and regular season production are very attractive and worst case he certainly represents value in that regard (no sarcasm) so worst case if there is a S&T we get a nice asset back
Im not syaing harden is better than melo but theya are clsoe to being even. Both dotn play defense and both have had struggles in the playoffs. I admit im not a ig harden fan but if he was offered as compensation for melo you would ahve to be crazy to turn that down.
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StarksEwing1 wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
EnySpree wrote:Big tings a gwon....

So this Chris Broussard rumor that we all laughed at as being something he made up makes sense....

Houston could trade Harden to NY for Melo.....then Lebron could sign with Houston straight up.

All they have to do is get rid of Lin the same way they got rid of Asik....

Also could these second round picks, Larkin and Wellington be flipped to Houston to make this all work?

In Phil we trust mother****ers


I messed around on trade machine earlier and plugged asik in from the rockets (Lin's deal is identical). The Knicks could send dalembert, Murry, kmart, aldrich and another non guaranteed deal and it worked. My thought was to get the 25th pick in the deal. The Knicks don't need Lin and they need dalembert.

What about the idea of getting Harden for Melo though?

I don't want to think about it. Not a fan of harden. I know he is reay good I just don't want him in ny.


Why not? Are you thinking of him as a franchise player? Look at his salary. He's basically paid to be a #3. We could get him and have tons of room for more top players.
because he plays zero defense and doesnt appear to have any interest in doing so. He's a TO machine and his playoff performances have been utterly dreadful. Your right... his contract and regular season production are very attractive and worst case he certainly represents value in that regard (no sarcasm) so worst case if there is a S&T we get a nice asset back
Im not syaing harden is better than melo but theya are clsoe to being even. Both dotn play defense and both have had struggles in the playoffs. I admit im not a ig harden fan but if he was offered as compensation for melo you would ahve to be crazy to turn that down.
and at least Harden is a blue chip and a scorer. I would absolutely do that and worst case you can flip him at some point. I agree. The trades w/ Chi where we get Boozer and late #1s back stink. I would take Harden over those scenarios anyday and plus I dont want Melo in the conference after we trade him.
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Cartman718 wrote:Knicks, Rockets Could Discuss Carmelo For Harden Sign-And-Trade
Jun 25, 2014 2:08 PM EDT

In a radio appearance, Chris Broussard reported that the Houston Rockets and New York Knicks could agree upon a sign-and-trade of Carmelo Anthony for James Harden.

The Rockets could then sign LeBron James with anticipated cap space created by trading away Omer Asik and Jeremy Lin in order to form a Big 3 with Anthony and Dwight Howard.

James and Anthony have reported interest in playing together.

Harden was a first-team All-NBA selection, but there have been questions on whether his game fits with Howard.

let me ask this. james harden is better than carmelo.. why would morey think lebron, carmelo and dwight is better than lebron, harden and dwight?

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6/26/2014  10:35 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
EnySpree wrote:Big tings a gwon....

So this Chris Broussard rumor that we all laughed at as being something he made up makes sense....

Houston could trade Harden to NY for Melo.....then Lebron could sign with Houston straight up.

All they have to do is get rid of Lin the same way they got rid of Asik....

Also could these second round picks, Larkin and Wellington be flipped to Houston to make this all work?

In Phil we trust mother****ers


I messed around on trade machine earlier and plugged asik in from the rockets (Lin's deal is identical). The Knicks could send dalembert, Murry, kmart, aldrich and another non guaranteed deal and it worked. My thought was to get the 25th pick in the deal. The Knicks don't need Lin and they need dalembert.

What about the idea of getting Harden for Melo though?

I don't want to think about it. Not a fan of harden. I know he is reay good I just don't want him in ny.


Why not? Are you thinking of him as a franchise player? Look at his salary. He's basically paid to be a #3. We could get him and have tons of room for more top players.

exactly...

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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6/26/2014  10:42 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/26/2014  10:44 AM
Cartman718 wrote:Knicks, Rockets Could Discuss Carmelo For Harden Sign-And-Trade
Jun 25, 2014 2:08 PM EDT

In a radio appearance, Chris Broussard reported that the Houston Rockets and New York Knicks could agree upon a sign-and-trade of Carmelo Anthony for James Harden.

The Rockets could then sign LeBron James with anticipated cap space created by trading away Omer Asik and Jeremy Lin in order to form a Big 3 with Anthony and Dwight Howard.

James and Anthony have reported interest in playing together.

Harden was a first-team All-NBA selection, but there have been questions on whether his game fits with Howard.

Melo for Harden straight up does not work contract wise if Melo is looking for something near the max. Guess what? You add Lin's contract and it works. This should open a shot at signing LeDouche as well for Houston. Morey is a ****ing boss if he gets this done. I hope Big Chief Triangle does his thing and also gets a 1st Round Pick. Meaning the cost of LeDouche and Melo would be Harden, Lin and a 1st rounder.

EDIT: Now imagine if they also get their other target...Lowry.
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6/26/2014  10:44 AM
CrushAlot wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
EnySpree wrote:Big tings a gwon....

So this Chris Broussard rumor that we all laughed at as being something he made up makes sense....

Houston could trade Harden to NY for Melo.....then Lebron could sign with Houston straight up.

All they have to do is get rid of Lin the same way they got rid of Asik....

Also could these second round picks, Larkin and Wellington be flipped to Houston to make this all work?

In Phil we trust mother****ers


I messed around on trade machine earlier and plugged asik in from the rockets (Lin's deal is identical). The Knicks could send dalembert, Murry, kmart, aldrich and another non guaranteed deal and it worked. My thought was to get the 25th pick in the deal. The Knicks don't need Lin and they need dalembert.

What about the idea of getting Harden for Melo though?

I don't want to think about it. Not a fan of harden. I know he is reay good I just don't want him in ny.


+1 Don't like the dude

It would be funny to watch his FT attempts go down once he puts on a Knicks jersey though.

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