mreinman wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

mreinman wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:If you loved Felton, you'll be happy to know that guard affectionately known as "little fat @ss" is being targeted by the Knicks. His defense is suspect, but the dude can shoot and penetrate.

http://nypost.com/2014/06/16/spurs-pg-mills-on-knicks-radar/

The question is how high Mills’ market value has climbed and whether the Spurs are ready to pay a significant amount for a backup point guard. That’s usually not their style, with small-market owner Peter Holt one of the leaders of the 2011 lockout.

Mills opted into his contract last offseason and was paid just $1.3 million. Now he becomes an unrestricted free agent. The Knicks are looking to appropriate their $3.2 million mini mid-level on a starting point guard to supplant the ineffective Raymond Felton.

I think hes a guy who has earned a 5-6mm per contract.

I think $5M is the most he'll get. There are still enough questions surrounding his playmaking ability that I can't see a team paying him more thanvtge full mid-level.

I think he'll get 4 years and $18 million - which is what JJ Barrea got after the Dallas chip

Barrea is the guy I wanted to compare Mills too. But I hesitated because Barre's is not really a starter l. If barrea isn't a starter, what does that say about Mills? They're close to the same height and have the same strengths and weaknesses. What separate s Mills?

Geeeeeeez!!!!

Barrea is a horrible basketball player, how can you compare the 2?

Barea looked awfully good on that Maverick's championship team. Also, Barea has been solid for most of his career. Horrible is probably too strong of a description.

Horrible because he's been in obscurity in Minnesota. Barea was Mills on that Dallas team. Mills is the new hot commodity.

Barrea was not efficient on dallas while Mills on SA is superstar efficient

mreinman wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

mreinman wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:If you loved Felton, you'll be happy to know that guard affectionately known as "little fat @ss" is being targeted by the Knicks. His defense is suspect, but the dude can shoot and penetrate.

http://nypost.com/2014/06/16/spurs-pg-mills-on-knicks-radar/

The question is how high Mills’ market value has climbed and whether the Spurs are ready to pay a significant amount for a backup point guard. That’s usually not their style, with small-market owner Peter Holt one of the leaders of the 2011 lockout.

Mills opted into his contract last offseason and was paid just $1.3 million. Now he becomes an unrestricted free agent. The Knicks are looking to appropriate their $3.2 million mini mid-level on a starting point guard to supplant the ineffective Raymond Felton.

I think hes a guy who has earned a 5-6mm per contract.

I think $5M is the most he'll get. There are still enough questions surrounding his playmaking ability that I can't see a team paying him more thanvtge full mid-level.

I think he'll get 4 years and $18 million - which is what JJ Barrea got after the Dallas chip

Barrea is the guy I wanted to compare Mills too. But I hesitated because Barre's is not really a starter l. If barrea isn't a starter, what does that say about Mills? They're close to the same height and have the same strengths and weaknesses. What separate s Mills?

Geeeeeeez!!!!

Barrea is a horrible basketball player, how can you compare the 2?

Barea looked awfully good on that Maverick's championship team. Also, Barea has been solid for most of his career. Horrible is probably too strong of a description.

Horrible because he's been in obscurity in Minnesota. Barea was Mills on that Dallas team. Mills is the new hot commodity.

Barrea was not efficient on dallas while Mills on SA is superstar efficient

BigDaddyG wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

mreinman wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:If you loved Felton, you'll be happy to know that guard affectionately known as "little fat @ss" is being targeted by the Knicks. His defense is suspect, but the dude can shoot and penetrate.

http://nypost.com/2014/06/16/spurs-pg-mills-on-knicks-radar/

The question is how high Mills’ market value has climbed and whether the Spurs are ready to pay a significant amount for a backup point guard. That’s usually not their style, with small-market owner Peter Holt one of the leaders of the 2011 lockout.

Mills opted into his contract last offseason and was paid just $1.3 million. Now he becomes an unrestricted free agent. The Knicks are looking to appropriate their $3.2 million mini mid-level on a starting point guard to supplant the ineffective Raymond Felton.

I think hes a guy who has earned a 5-6mm per contract.

I think $5M is the most he'll get. There are still enough questions surrounding his playmaking ability that I can't see a team paying him more thanvtge full mid-level.

I think he'll get 4 years and $18 million - which is what JJ Barrea got after the Dallas chip

Barrea is the guy I wanted to compare Mills too. But I hesitated because Barre's is not really a starter l. If barrea isn't a starter, what does that say about Mills? They're close to the same height and have the same strengths and weaknesses. What separate s Mills?

Geeeeeeez!!!!

Barrea is a horrible basketball player, how can you compare the 2?

Barea looked awfully good on that Maverick's championship team. Also, Barea has been solid for most of his career. Horrible is probably too strong of a description.

Horrible because he's been in obscurity in Minnesota. Barea was Mills on that Dallas team. Mills is the new hot commodity.

Barrea was not efficient on dallas while Mills on SA is superstar efficient

Exactly. He should be getting a contract around 4 yrs, $28 mil.

Paying $7M per for a guy who's totalled 7 starts and hasn't logged more than 20 minutes a game in any season is too much.

7M for a scorer is too high in my book but that's me. I could see if he had decent numbers to go along with his efficiency. His rebounding is okay I guess but still at 7M that seems to be a big risk 4/20-22M seems about right though.

yellowboy90 wrote:3.5 ast for a point guard is not good.

So you went from saying none of his numbers were decent to just criticizing the assists?
The turnovers were extremely low too. I'm sure with a bigger role both the assists and turnovers would go up anyway.

yellowboy90 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:3.5 ast for a point guard is not good.

So you went from saying none of his numbers were decent to just criticizing the assists?
The turnovers were extremely low too. I'm sure with a bigger role both the assists and turnovers would go up anyway.

No, I didn't I actually said he rebounded well in the first post.

yellowboy90 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:3.5 ast for a point guard is not good.

So you went from saying none of his numbers were decent to just criticizing the assists?
The turnovers were extremely low too. I'm sure with a bigger role both the assists and turnovers would go up anyway.

No, I didn't I actually said he rebounded well in the first post.

You're right. I missed that. Sorry! His steals are pretty good too. And his own vs. opponent production is very good.

yeah, i'm just not willing to be stuck with 14 million for two years if he doesn't work out because his contract and size will become a negative in trade negotiations.

Now, give me a team option on the 4th year and you have a very good contract. I can trade that expiring in the 3rd if things go sour.