knicks1248 wrote:I think I may stop watching basketball if this happens, the NBA should do everything in their power to stop this from happening, it would completely ruin the league big time.

It's bad enough there are very few stars let alone super stars, but to have all of them on 1 fckng team, who's going to watch that.

This is so stupid

knicks1248 wrote:

tkf wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

tkf wrote:I hope it happens if it means getting carmelo out of NY..

why, you don't think phil & fisher can turn melo into a smarter player..

they are not god.. you just don't turn someone into a smart player.. I have never heard of that...

are you admitting that he is dumb?

jordan was a volume shooter before phil, so was kobe, chauncy billups was a scorer in college and came into the league clueless as a PG,

Melo is not a dump player, but he's not the sharpest by any stretch. The older you get the more mature you get. Melo said he wasnt oppose to changing his game if phil saw something that would making him a more complete player..

Having two go to guys is a must, 3 is a bit much but one player makes the biggest sacrifice (see bosh)4 is assinine and usually a bitch move.

All i'm saying is why would the league want 3 or 4 of the top scorers on the same team..

JORDAN WAS already a super smart player, efficient scorer, great defender.. come on now.. volume shooter? well a volume shooter who made 50% of his shots.. big difference than a volume shooter who makes 44% of his shots and doesn't pass or defend..

The difference between those guys, even kobe and billiups is that they are high Iq PLAYERS.. carmelo isn't.. and they all, also defended... but phil isn't coaching carmelo, so how is he going to make him smarter.. and how is the development of billups, jordan and kobe applicable to carmelo?

The older you get the more mature you get. Melo said he wasnt oppose to changing his game if phil saw something that would making him a more complete player..

well it is going on season 13, when will it kick in for carmelo.. those other guys you mentioned didn't take 13 seasons... carmelo is not cut from the same cloth those guys were,,,

All i'm saying is why would the league want 3 or 4 of the top scorers on the same team..

who cares what the league wants.. plus wade is no longer a top scorer in this league.. it seems as if it is all about the players.. but you guys have no problem with that when yall were talking about getting kevin love, rondo, carmelo..etc.. come on.. I don't care if it works in miami or not.. as long as he is out of here and the knicks can get better.. I am fine... if they want to collude and join up in miami.. fine, I said this before, wade, lebron, carmelo, they are all douchebags... you guys only now see it when carmelo is in danger of joining another team... I say the way that douchebag got here should tell you a lot about how he thinks and operates..

TeamBall wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:I think I may stop watching basketball if this happens, the NBA should do everything in their power to stop this from happening, it would completely ruin the league big time.

It's bad enough there are very few stars let alone super stars, but to have all of them on 1 fckng team, who's going to watch that.

This is so stupid

Pretty sure they'd have to drop Bosh for this to happen but yeah I'd heavily consider quitting the NBA if this were to happen. It'd also be the closest I come to having tkf level hatred for Melo.

but why now? I don't understand, you guys all knew that wade, lebron were douchebags!! add carmelo to that list, you should be more upset at how he got here.. this guy cares nothing about the knicks.. JEEZ!!!! wake up people!!

good riddance if he leaves... it only makes us better long term!!

tkf wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

tkf wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

tkf wrote:I hope it happens if it means getting carmelo out of NY..

why, you don't think phil & fisher can turn melo into a smarter player..

they are not god.. you just don't turn someone into a smart player.. I have never heard of that...

are you admitting that he is dumb?

jordan was a volume shooter before phil, so was kobe, chauncy billups was a scorer in college and came into the league clueless as a PG,

Melo is not a dump player, but he's not the sharpest by any stretch. The older you get the more mature you get. Melo said he wasnt oppose to changing his game if phil saw something that would making him a more complete player..

Having two go to guys is a must, 3 is a bit much but one player makes the biggest sacrifice (see bosh)4 is assinine and usually a bitch move.

All i'm saying is why would the league want 3 or 4 of the top scorers on the same team..

JORDAN WAS already a super smart player, efficient scorer, great defender.. come on now.. volume shooter? well a volume shooter who made 50% of his shots.. big difference than a volume shooter who makes 44% of his shots and doesn't pass or defend..

The difference between those guys, even kobe and billiups is that they are high Iq PLAYERS.. carmelo isn't.. and they all, also defended... but phil isn't coaching carmelo, so how is he going to make him smarter.. and how is the development of billups, jordan and kobe applicable to carmelo?

The older you get the more mature you get. Melo said he wasnt oppose to changing his game if phil saw something that would making him a more complete player..

well it is going on season 13, when will it kick in for carmelo.. those other guys you mentioned didn't take 13 seasons... carmelo is not cut from the same cloth those guys were,,,

All i'm saying is why would the league want 3 or 4 of the top scorers on the same team..

who cares what the league wants.. plus wade is no longer a top scorer in this league.. it seems as if it is all about the players.. but you guys have no problem with that when yall were talking about getting kevin love, rondo, carmelo..etc.. come on.. I don't care if it works in miami or not.. as long as he is out of here and the knicks can get better.. I am fine... if they want to collude and join up in miami.. fine, I said this before, wade, lebron, carmelo, they are all douchebags... you guys only now see it when carmelo is in danger of joining another team... I say the way that douchebag got here should tell you a lot about how he thinks and operates..

Don't think i wasn't aware of jordan's efficient play (AFTER PHIL STARTED COACHING HIM, NOT BEFORE), go read one of his books, and he says himself, PHIL turned him into a much smarter player, same for kobe..

Melo has never played with A Shaq or Kobe or PIP, or any top player in the NBA, he's never even played on a squad that where the core was together for more then a yr or 2. he's never played for a coach that was consider to be a championship coach. He's played for 3 coaches who currently don't have JOBS.

So if you want to go ahead and act like melo is the the reason Melo hasn't won a ring or advance to the finals be my guess, but you sound as if you truly don't know the sport, you sound like you were born in the mid 90's, and you sound like a pure hater of this particular player

TeamBall wrote:

tkf wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:I think I may stop watching basketball if this happens, the NBA should do everything in their power to stop this from happening, it would completely ruin the league big time.

It's bad enough there are very few stars let alone super stars, but to have all of them on 1 fckng team, who's going to watch that.

This is so stupid

Pretty sure they'd have to drop Bosh for this to happen but yeah I'd heavily consider quitting the NBA if this were to happen. It'd also be the closest I come to having tkf level hatred for Melo.

but why now? I don't understand, you guys all knew that wade, lebron were douchebags!! add carmelo to that list, you should be more upset at how he got here.. this guy cares nothing about the knicks.. JEEZ!!!! wake up people!!

good riddance if he leaves... it only makes us better long term!!

I hated the 3 of them when they first got together and did their little show for the Miami fans (not 1, not 2) but that went away this past season. Wade's the only one I don't like. Now, mind you, I just don't like him on the basketball court. I don't know these people in real life.

As for Melo, even if I was upset with the trade (which I wasn't), I've had PLENTY of time to get over it. And if I couldn't, I would have stopped watching the Knicks since Melo was such an integral part of the team from the second we got him.

well of course, I know nothing about carmelo off the court, but when it comes to the business of basketball I can't stand the dude.. point taken..

I would have stopped watching the Knicks since Melo was such an integral part of the team from the second we got him.

but I am still a knick fan, but I watch less of the knicks now.. hopefully soon I can get back to watching full time if he leaves.

gunsnewing wrote:I gotta admit it would be hilarious if Melo bolted to join the Miami Superfriends and we get nothing in return.

I still rather trade him to the Rockets or Wizards

ONly consulation would be some would admit it was a bad trade.

I like Melo, but did not like the trade. zzz

As a kNick fan, I'd like to see what a new system could do with Melo-Bargs-Tyson-JR.

Let 2015 take care of itself then. I think Miami has another run in after this year regardless of who wins.

one friend of mine called me to go crazy about this rumor and claimed hiring fisher as coach rather than bringing mark jackson was infuriating, as they think this is going to/could lead melo to consider leaving more seriously because this tells him we aren't taking winning seriously enough. i disagree, as i am of the believe of what i gather the supporters of the hiring are thinking:

1) the knicks was better than the record showed and is at least a good/playoff team in the east with minimal change

2) no one is beating miami next year in the east probably anyway

3) melo's options seemed to be debatable as that much better due to risks associated with the moves i.e. depending on rose to comeback, (yet the miami superduper friends concept, if the players are genuinly willing, is the biggest threat)

4) the team lacked leadership and with fisher we bring the kind of players, as a coach this time, who helped keep the team together like rasheed and kidd

5) fisher will not be expected to work miracles so expectations are tempered a bit out the gate (as pjax appears to be trying to do)

6) he will be a satellite coach of jackson who may even think it is a good idea to coach this team for a bit, but physically cannot and is not as in touch with the younger players as fisher is

7) obviously it is one year of that and then expecting to sign (a) big free agent(s)

i am leaving some things out, but those seem key to following the logic to persuade melo to stay, and how fisher is not a bad option to help. yes, it could all backfire and we may lose melo anyway. if that happens we have a young coach to rebuild the team and will obviously look to sign at least 2 free agents in 2015, melo here or not.

but holy begeesus the miami idea is scary right now. i am a lebron fan, but that would be really hard to swallow. guess being a bandwagon jumper may be the only hope for a bit, unless the knicks orchestrate their own superfriend team as well.

that's also a lot of money to leave on the table though for melo. $70 mil?

tkf wrote:I hope it happens if it means getting carmelo out of NY..

The only way I want Melo out is if we get something in return.

NYKBocker wrote:

tkf wrote:I hope it happens if it means getting carmelo out of NY..

The only way I want Melo out is if we get something in return.

tkf wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:

tkf wrote:I hope it happens if it means getting carmelo out of NY..

god you are so pathetic.

nah, pathetic is how you guys are sitting there biting your nails upset over this news... thats pathetic.. I am hoping it comes true.. get him out of here...

why don't you change your name to carmelo4ever?

if you've read any of my posts, which clearl you haven't, i am not a melo-lover whatsoever, but im also not a petty child behind the keyboard and realize that melo is talented and we need him here OR we need to get something for him if he leaves. go back under your rock at realgm.

nyk4ever wrote:

tkf wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:

tkf wrote:I hope it happens if it means getting carmelo out of NY..

god you are so pathetic.

nah, pathetic is how you guys are sitting there biting your nails upset over this news... thats pathetic.. I am hoping it comes true.. get him out of here...

why don't you change your name to carmelo4ever?

if you've read any of my posts, which clearl you haven't, i am not a melo-lover whatsoever, but im also not a petty child behind the keyboard and realize that melo is talented and we need him here OR we need to get something for him if he leaves. go back under your rock at realgm.

Clearly TFK is struggling to see the big picture