gunsnewing wrote:See. People expect players to break into the league like they are already at Lebron's level. You can devevelop players if you are committed

As Ron pointed out Woodson and his hall of fame staff were too concerned with their job security. That's why the young guys never got a chance and we were forced to watch Raymond Felton screw up in every way imaginable

Boy that is so true. Same reason why he refused to play Cole even after his double double.

knicks1248 wrote:

franco12 wrote:

fishmike wrote:considering he couldnt get minutes behind Felton and Prigioni for a coach who figures to lose his job after a 54 win season and an owner who thought a title run was plausable its hard to get excited about TM

Let me first say that Toure Murray will most likely follow any number of predecessors out of the league - Frank Williams, Mardy Collins, etc., et al.

But, what you wrote is exactly why he didn't get minutes.

This win now mentality, we can turn it around- is why none of our younger players get time.

If we started the season realizing we weren't making the play offs and just gave guys like Tyler, Aldrich and Murray a steady diet of minutes, allowed them to play through mistakes- we might be in a position to say - yes/no these guys can be part of a winning NBA squad.

Instead, we have question marks.

We've cut and given up on a lot of players that have gone on to become successful elsewhere.

I don't know if other teams have the same track record. I mean, look at Jeremy Lin- cut twice.

But it seems like teams like San Antonio always manage to find a way to develop players that any other squad could have had.

How can him and tyler be part of a winning squad playing through their mistakes?

How Can you come off a 54 win season and go into the next season saying this is a rebuilding stage with damn near the same squad that won you 54 games?

I wasn't please with anything Woodson did this season, there was plenty of opportunity to play murry, and he showed a few bright spots, but I'm surely not going to sit here and think murry would have gotten us over the hump, not in a playoff push.

Here I go again talking of my least former favorite subject Mike Woodson.
Mike Woodson put Murray and Tyler on court when coach had no other choice due to nyk injuries.

What poor Mike didn't see or bargain for is Murray brought some defensive pressure vs PGs especially young PGs
Recall in summer camp Murray jacked up all kind of jumpers , in regular season fans seen more balance poise
Game from Murray especially on D' (I didn't know he can defend). Seen some of same from J.Tyler more Offensively,
Didn't know Tyler had bit of offense off the bench.

All in all terrible coach Woodson stubbornly refused to use and develop these young knocks more,
You'd think if lame sucks Woodson figured out roles for Murray, Tyler on knick team at end NY woulda edged out 1-2 games won
Easily and thus NY make playoffs and giving clueless Mike supporters more of argument to save Woodson job

Mike downfall is his fault and young Murray PG will benefit from interest around league of NBA teams

BigDaddyG wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

fishmike wrote:considering he couldnt get minutes behind Felton and Prigioni for a coach who figures to lose his job after a 54 win season and an owner who thought a title run was plausable its hard to get excited about TM

And I like people asking if he can shoot the three when he can't shoot free throws. You need lotsa minutes to hit better than 60% from the line?

Next.

Murry shot 42% from three with us and 36% from three in the d-league. I'm confident the free throws will improve with time.