misterearl wrote:knickscity - church videos on company time?

What was Mark Jackson's relationship with his players again?

Did they win more basketball games every year of his tenure, or were they sliding backwards?

Church videos? is that the best you got?

Church videos? How silly is that?

Why was he fired after accomplishing all that? Doesn't getting canned immediately after so much success beg the question of exactly what his short comings were?

I am biased but Jackson is apparently fervently religious and yet still kept a mistress something certainly against gods word in any Christian denomination. No thanks to phoney hypocrite preacher types. Just those facts along disqualifies Jackson for me.

H1AND1 wrote:

misterearl wrote:knickscity - church videos on company time?

What was Mark Jackson's relationship with his players again?

Did they win more basketball games every year of his tenure, or were they sliding backwards?

Church videos? is that the best you got?

Church videos? How silly is that?

Why was he fired after accomplishing all that? Doesn't getting canned immediately after so much success beg the question of exactly what his short comings were?

I am biased but Jackson is apparently fervently religious and yet still kept a mistress something certainly against gods word in any Christian denomination. No thanks to phoney hypocrite preacher types. Just those facts along disqualifies Jackson for me.

Not sure about all the stuff with Mark. He is one of my all time favorite Knicks and I really wanted him in ny as the coach when mike d was hired. One thing I did hear was tat Jax brought in an assistant that divided the coaching staff and has done that in the past on other staffs. I don't which assistant but the guy that told me about it has nba connections in the bay area. He also may have just read it somewhere.

misterearl wrote:

H1AND1 wrote:

misterearl wrote:H1AND1 - you never answered the question. Do you prefer a head coach with family ties to another city, or one who is based in New York year round?

Just curious

I could care less where the coach is from. He could be from Mars for all I care. Doesn't matter to me and since when is being from a certain city give you any leg up coaching?

H1AND1 - the question was not one of origin, it was one of residence. Please read carefully.

Yes, sorry I wasn't clear. Still doesn't matter to me. My expectation is if someone accepts a job coaching an NBA team for big money and it happens to be somewhere different than where they currently reside they understand the ramifications of having to relocate or spend time away from home. This is pretty obvious stuff here. Are you implying it's normal for a coach to accept a position then regularly be absent because you want to chillax at home? That's kinda ridicukous and has nothing whatsoever to do with anything in my opinion.

Mark Jackson isn't from nor did he live in the Bay Area how on earth did he succeed so well there? Was that just a fluke then?

Also: Care to explain why you think Jackson was fired after so much success?

misterearl wrote:What has Steve Kerr won? 0 games.

misterearl wrote:Let's Go To The Videotape

TeamBall - I wanted Mark Jackson over Mike D'Antoni. Based on some reports, and their relationship in Indiana, I have a feeling Donnie Walsh was seriously considering Mark Jackson as well.

The difference is the sickening hype for, and fawning over, Kerr.

But I don't see any "hype" for Kerr really. I think most people trust Phil. If Phil wants Kerr then people, myself included, trust it.

Question Earl? Do you know Mark Jackson wants the Knicks job and is ok working under Phil? Simple question...

misterearl wrote:Nalod - the distain I have is for the ridiculous amount of fanfare for Kerr. Granted, the influence of Uncle Phil, and their relationship, and the power of the New York media machine - when was there EVER so much hype (and salary demand) over a first-time head coach?

The precedent is staggering.

In the immortal words of Dennis Green, "If you want to crown his ass, then crown him..." Home has not won over a single professional basketball player as an assistant or a head man, at any level. Not a high school, college or DLeague. Kerr needs to show me something other than some rings from the Michael Jordan Chicago Bulls.

Pardon me if I am not jumping on his bandwagon before he rolls out he ball racks.

Maybe I'm missing something or haven't read all the numerous Kerr threads....But I haven't seen this enormous fan fare. Just old grumpy Knick fans hungry for positive NEWS that leads to a championship. I think the only people that are hyping up Kerr is the NY MEDIA....

misterearl wrote:Nalod - the distain I have is for the ridiculous amount of fanfare for Kerr. Granted, the influence of Uncle Phil, and their relationship, and the power of the New York media machine - when was there EVER so much hype (and salary demand) over a first-time head coach?

The precedent is staggering.

In the immortal words of Dennis Green, "If you want to crown his ass, then crown him..." Home has not won over a single professional basketball player as an assistant or a head man, at any level. Not a high school, college or DLeague. Kerr needs to show me something other than some rings from the Michael Jordan Chicago Bulls.

Pardon me if I am not jumping on his bandwagon before he rolls out he ball racks.

Pardon granted!!!! Thanks for the response. I can see your point. BTW, has anyone ever paid a GM 12mil before? Epic freaking starphuch the PhilJax to NY thing was! Its NY media and the knicks!

My take is Phil had great on court productive relatoinships with Krause and Kupchek. As PHils bling grew in Chicago it stands to reason in his 9 years there his juice card got filled and had more say in roster contruction. In Lakerland, it also is logical he had it negotiated in as well!

Who phil wants to be his on floor general is very important. Pay a man 12 mil a year and give him the tools to succeed. If paying above market rate is what it takes, I suppose its just the cost of doing business. Freaking Nets are on the hook for 6million to Lawrence Frank to be Kidds head assistant! Put that on Kidds salary package and it adds up.

ONe has little to do with the other but its a billion dollar corp. and you want to attract talent in what has been a historically dysfuncitonal organization and a blood thirsty media complex I'd say if you want a guy that has a market (in demand) I think a premium is logical. Thats my justification and the ease by which to spend ohters money on the internet!

Sometimes you pay up for the right circumstances. Knicks piss money on far worse things than paying up for a quality person to be its rookie head coach. Think of the failed moves to clear cap space for Lebron, and in his place we burned it on Amare? Look how we over paid for Amare? 20-40million is my guess! Not to count the cost of Larry Hughes, Mcgrady, or who ever!

We over paid for Melo, but there are many who feel it was justified and a minority who things it was silly.

I suppose You now have your "Thing" going forward if Kerr and the knicks don't succeed! The rest of us have to defend him and preach "patience"!!!!