Nalod wrote:

DrAlphaeus wrote:I bet the whole Sterling TMZ scoop made players and staff aware of a ton more dirty laundry, particularly their racial profiling of tenants. Bomani Jones said in that radio interview with Dan Le Batard that Shelly went door-to-door in their buildings pretending she was doing a government survey or something and actually was recording the race/ethnicity of the tenants. The whole fact that she is still married to him and supposedly sued the mistress makes their relationship seems very co-dependant and shady. I can understand why players and staff would want the entire Sterling family out of ownership. It will just be very tricky since the tape and Donald's words are the motivation for the move.

I get that and Bomani had some great points. Now, can you indict her based that? How long ago was that? Did that information used against tenents? Its shady, but as we know its shady because of Donalds comments. She has been estranged for years and lived seporate lives. I know a few couples that are seportated for years and live entirely seporate lives but there is financial reasons why they legally stay married.

Its an interesting phenom. Staviano has been milking him for money and she opened up a pandora box of trouble for herself as well.

No doubt, it will be tough for the Board of Governors to indite her for her husband's words, if those words are the sole reason for their action. But I bet the players and staff are getting the lowdown on Shelly too... situations like this tend to get people talking openly about things they've noticed and heard over the years but never felt comfortable talking about.

holfresh wrote:

Vmart wrote:Doc needs to stop discriminating based on association. Shelly Sterling has every right to keep her share of the team. She is already on record condemning her estranged husband.

Shelly Sterling has already settled out of court a racial discrimination cases on her own, not including her husband according to Mike and Mike..She has paid a settlement of 3 million dollars out of court in one case...

Hadn't Don Sterling also done the same prior to this? I don't think the NBA can use it against her, they are strictly using the tape against Mr. Sterling and didn't have an issue with his behavior prior to it being taped and leaked to the public.

The issue becomes where do you draw the line? If there is a witch hunt for prior racist behavior then I think a lot of the world is in trouble - including recent comments from L.J. and Michael Jordans latest comments about being against white people.

Granted I don't agree with the behavior of either Sterling, but the NBA cannot suddenly decide they don't agree with her past actions out of convenience (trying to get her removed) when the NBA didn't have a problem with it at the time it happened.

Bet you this opened a lot of people's eyes to who they were working for, and some will not be happy unless they are rid of the Sterlings. Don't know what anyone can do about that while still under contract though.

OasisBU wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Vmart wrote:Doc needs to stop discriminating based on association. Shelly Sterling has every right to keep her share of the team. She is already on record condemning her estranged husband.

Shelly Sterling has already settled out of court a racial discrimination cases on her own, not including her husband according to Mike and Mike..She has paid a settlement of 3 million dollars out of court in one case...

Hadn't Don Sterling also done the same prior to this? I don't think the NBA can use it against her, they are strictly using the tape against Mr. Sterling and didn't have an issue with his behavior prior to it being taped and leaked to the public.

The issue becomes where do you draw the line? If there is a witch hunt for prior racist behavior then I think a lot of the world is in trouble - including recent comments from L.J. and Michael Jordans latest comments about being against white people.

Granted I don't agree with the behavior of either Sterling, but the NBA cannot suddenly decide they don't agree with her past actions out of convenience (trying to get her removed) when the NBA didn't have a problem with it at the time it happened.

I agree. The main difference is that Donald was caught on tape and the Shelly comments are hearsay. The Michael Jordan comments were taken out of context and shouldn't be included in this discussion at all.

OasisBU wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Vmart wrote:Doc needs to stop discriminating based on association. Shelly Sterling has every right to keep her share of the team. She is already on record condemning her estranged husband.

Shelly Sterling has already settled out of court a racial discrimination cases on her own, not including her husband according to Mike and Mike..She has paid a settlement of 3 million dollars out of court in one case...

Hadn't Don Sterling also done the same prior to this? I don't think the NBA can use it against her, they are strictly using the tape against Mr. Sterling and didn't have an issue with his behavior prior to it being taped and leaked to the public.

The issue becomes where do you draw the line? If there is a witch hunt for prior racist behavior then I think a lot of the world is in trouble - including recent comments from L.J. and Michael Jordans latest comments about being against white people.

Granted I don't agree with the behavior of either Sterling, but the NBA cannot suddenly decide they don't agree with her past actions out of convenience (trying to get her removed) when the NBA didn't have a problem with it at the time it happened.

Donald Sterling's comments on that tape weren't illegal... Yet the NBA is using that to force a sale of the Clippers...I doubt the NBA will accept the next landing spot for the Clippers will be in his racist wife's arms, irregardless of when and where her transgressions occurred...

holfresh wrote:

OasisBU wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Vmart wrote:Doc needs to stop discriminating based on association. Shelly Sterling has every right to keep her share of the team. She is already on record condemning her estranged husband.

Shelly Sterling has already settled out of court a racial discrimination cases on her own, not including her husband according to Mike and Mike..She has paid a settlement of 3 million dollars out of court in one case...

Hadn't Don Sterling also done the same prior to this? I don't think the NBA can use it against her, they are strictly using the tape against Mr. Sterling and didn't have an issue with his behavior prior to it being taped and leaked to the public.

The issue becomes where do you draw the line? If there is a witch hunt for prior racist behavior then I think a lot of the world is in trouble - including recent comments from L.J. and Michael Jordans latest comments about being against white people.

Granted I don't agree with the behavior of either Sterling, but the NBA cannot suddenly decide they don't agree with her past actions out of convenience (trying to get her removed) when the NBA didn't have a problem with it at the time it happened.

Donald Sterling's comments on that tape weren't illegal... Yet the NBA is using that to force a sale of the Clippers...I doubt the NBA will accept the next landing spot for the Clippers will be in his racist wife's arms, irregardless of when and where her transgressions occurred...

They will try.

Mr Sterling is no longer "involved" in the day to day operations
Miss Sterling still owns 50% of her stake but isn't interested in the day to day operations

Rivers is on contract to make over 7m + per year, if he is willing to walk away and retire, he can but unless the Clippers release him of his duties, he cannot coach another team
We are rebuilding and Clippers are competing, so what difference does this make?
Rivers isn't interested in rebuilding that is why he did no want to coach The Celtics

Nalod wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:If Shelly was in anyway involved she will not be allowed to keep the team. Even if incident in the court of law. It will be a PR nightmare for the NBA in the court of public opinion and sponsors will continue to pull out. They have every right to pull out. Nothing the courts can do about it. The NBA will find a new owner by the start of next season. The end

involved with what? The settlement? Who paid it? The company. She was found not guilty in a court of law. Its 5 year old news.
She involved with sueing Staviano? She is. There is an ugly underbelly to this but she is acuising staviano of fraud. Shelly prevails she will come out sympathetic. Donald is finished either way. Not for what he did, for what he said.

Both Sterlings are on record of donating money to minority causes. Disingenuoius as it might be, it still money donated.

Nalod is not defending Shelly sterling, just the due process arguement as a matter of discussion. Nothing more. Nalod don't have a dog in this fight.

Wait, "Dog in this fight"? Am I a dog hater now?

You speak of yourself in the first person and the third person all in the same post? LOL.

meloshouldgo wrote:

Nalod wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:If Shelly was in anyway involved she will not be allowed to keep the team. Even if incident in the court of law. It will be a PR nightmare for the NBA in the court of public opinion and sponsors will continue to pull out. They have every right to pull out. Nothing the courts can do about it. The NBA will find a new owner by the start of next season. The end

involved with what? The settlement? Who paid it? The company. She was found not guilty in a court of law. Its 5 year old news.
She involved with sueing Staviano? She is. There is an ugly underbelly to this but she is acuising staviano of fraud. Shelly prevails she will come out sympathetic. Donald is finished either way. Not for what he did, for what he said.

Both Sterlings are on record of donating money to minority causes. Disingenuoius as it might be, it still money donated.

Nalod is not defending Shelly sterling, just the due process arguement as a matter of discussion. Nothing more. Nalod don't have a dog in this fight.

Wait, "Dog in this fight"? Am I a dog hater now?

You speak of yourself in the first person and the third person all in the same post? LOL.

Nalod is three dimentional