holfresh wrote:When in life has Steve Kerr ever stuck you as a leader of men??..Every interview I have heard with Steve Kerr about the great players he played with, he was always awe struck by their motivation and drive..And if it you think experience isn't important, why is it instrumental for Phil to have knowledgable(experienced) assistants around him??

When in life has Jeff Hornacek struck you as a leader of men? It didn't stop him from turning a hopeless situation into a playoff contender. When in life has Lawrence Frank struck you as a leader of men? Dude is like 5"8', never really played professional basketball and yet has become a fixture in the league in coaching circles. The fact is that talent is talent and if the greatest coach of all-time vouches for a guy, I'll believe in him as well.

nixluva wrote:The whole experience thing is a bit overrated. You either have the talent to lead men or you don't. What did all those years of experience do or Woodson? He still made mistakes that a rookie High School coach would make. Some people are just High BB IQ and understand people. Those are things that can make for a successful Coach despite a lack of experience. Talent has many forms. Some people have physical talent and others have mental talent. I'll leave it up to Phil to decide who has the right mental make up to coach this team day to day.

Also Phil is going to be instrumental in making sure the staff is stocked with knowledgeable assistants. This will still be very much a Phil Jackson styled team even if he's not on the bench. Most GM's or Presidents don't have that kind of experience to offer their coach. They can't offer any insight in how to be a multiple championship coach as Phil does. Plus Kerr already believes in and understands Phil's way of doing things. I love how there's so much doubt about something that hasn't happened yet, but even more so that some think they understand better than Phil what it takes to be a successful head coach.

As a parent I know that I knew the strengths and weaknesses of each of my children and i'm sure that Phil knows which of his players showed the most acumen to be a good head coach. Whoever he picks will fully represent him and I doubt he'll take that decision lightly. Phil doesn't do losing. He takes his time with EVERYTHING he does and usually only takes on situations where he sees a way he can win. Phil is also a grinder, which he doesn't get credit for. People think he's some beach bum but forget that he toiled in the CBA for 3 years honing his skills before becoming an assistant for Collins in 1987. I trust that Phil will look at every angle before making any decision. Unlike previous Knicks GM's or Presidents, Phil can explain to you his approach to every aspect of the game. That's not someone who is just gonna wing it or sign a friend just cuz he's a friend.

Papabear Says

So far Phil has Odoms and maybe Steve Kerr as head coach? Remember Phil Jax was never a President before and it seems that he is bringing his old buddies into New York. I just will not call Woody a High School coach. Woody has won as a NBA coach. Now do I like all the things he did? Heck no! Woody also never had Michael Jordan, Scotty Pipen , Kobe , or Shaq to play for him either. So we as couch coaches can always be the second guessers in each game. And he who thinks he knows more about coaching than Woody please tell me what team you are coaching? I wish Woody the best but he just wasn't the type of coach the Knicks needed. He was to stubburn and it cost him his job.

NardDogNation wrote:

holfresh wrote:When in life has Steve Kerr ever stuck you as a leader of men??..Every interview I have heard with Steve Kerr about the great players he played with, he was always awe struck by their motivation and drive..And if it you think experience isn't important, why is it instrumental for Phil to have knowledgable(experienced) assistants around him??

When in life has Jeff Hornacek struck you as a leader of men? It didn't stop him from turning a hopeless situation into a playoff contender. When in life has Lawrence Frank struck you as a leader of men? Dude is like 5"8', never really played professional basketball and yet has become a fixture in the league in coaching circles. The fact is that talent is talent and if the greatest coach of all-time vouches for a guy, I'll believe in him as well.

Well if I remember correctly, Hornecek and Matt Harding were tough players...Hornecek is tough in Philly when he played with Hershy Hawkins...Hornecek took it to you and played hard and tough for Utah..Hornecek paid his dues as an assistant as well...Lawrence Frank isn't a leader of men, he sucked as a coach but he did pay his dues as an assistant and showed his diligence in hard work... He got his job because of Jason Kidd's insistence with the Nets after a feud with Byron Scott...He sucked and it didn't translate but he was given a shot based on aptitude for the game..I have no idea how Frank got the Detroit job...Obviously off Doc Rivers success..What are u basing your assessment of Steve Kerr on??

Papabear wrote:

DJMUSIC wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

holfresh wrote:When in life has Steve Kerr ever stuck you as a leader of men??..Every interview I have heard with Steve Kerr about the great players he played with, he was always awe struck by their motivation and drive..And if it you think experience isn't important, why is it instrumental for Phil to have knowledgable(experienced) assistants around him??

When in life has Jeff Hornacek struck you as a leader of men? It didn't stop him from turning a hopeless situation into a playoff contender. When in life has Lawrence Frank struck you as a leader of men? Dude is like 5"8', never really played professional basketball and yet has become a fixture in the league in coaching circles. The fact is that talent is talent and if the greatest coach of all-time vouches for a guy, I'll believe in him as well.

Amen
100% agree
With Kerr, the J.Horncek , Larry Frank shows you that cant judge a book by its cover

Kerr though a smallish SG when he played as role player (title teams)
seems he is a no nonsense guy by his phoenix sun stint running their team in front office,
Kerry remind all here took on the strong ego/outspoken Mike D'Anthoni whom didnt like big NBA guys or centers
such as Shaq whom said he came to Suns to Steve Nash team to help

All in all lets pass on Keer until he got 1/3 or 1/2 NBA season under his belt.
Keer also seem like he doesnt mind the pressure if he's considering the offer & has no issue coming to the
Burner call NYC

Papabear Says

Steve Kerr from GM to head coach? He seems to be going backwards.

backwards not at all..
Not unusual may be in pro sports
But I recall when I once worked for AT&T as a applications lead, my managers had to come back to
work in 'hands on' job, when AT&T broke up & got put back together long after I left.

Same thing here layoffs led to jobs which I guess seem going backwards as u say But them managers wasn't going
to any greener pasteurs if they didnt have another job thus, for Kerr maybe no phone calls came to make Steve leave
his NBA-tv & TNT/or Espn? job as far as GM

Point is its job GM or coach, if Kerr is interested he's not thinking a lick about the past GM job he had
taking a coaching job in prestigious NY City. I am sure Kerr if he took coaching NBA job one of best jobs being NY
its not like Kerr would believe he'd never ever have 2nd opportunities for GM or President jobs in NBA again.

Since u mention backwards can say same for Phil though prez title higher than coaching he is going back a bit
taking on mess of org called Knickerbockers. That impresses me cause I feel Phil was in spot to be criticized that
he never take nba job which didnt have stars /players as Chicago and LA Lakers.

He proving folks wrong in taking on knick mess which its not impossible for right person rebuild

BigRedDog wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Phil will be the guiding light for whoever the coach is. Like Riley with spoeltra. It really doesn't matter who the coach is as long as both are on the same page.

What you guys want is two different philosophies which will never work

guns , your best post in weeks

Wow that's quite a slump lol

All Phil needs now is a lab coat.

Whatever former Knicks coaches said or did not say in the past was a by-product of Dolan's iron fist policy. Period. It was a game of survival and everyone who follows the franchise closely knows that.

Be thankful that the power rests with a man who owns an authentic, personalized Knicks jersey - and who has the juice to assert his legacy.