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mreinman
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4/10/2014  11:20 AM
yellowboy90 wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Defense is a team effort. Bad defensive teams negate capable lock down defenders. This is why great teams are after Shumpert. They already have a great defensive system in place with the players they have. They look for guys who they not only can get to buy into playing defense but guys who take pride in becoming superior defenders. Sometimes it's the difference between winning and losing

Great teams went after Ronnie Brewer. I agree with you though on every thing else unless you are considering Shump as a lock down defender.

Who can we compare him to? Tony allen? Bruce Bowen? Dan Marjerle? Ron Harper?

His offensive IQ and efficiency are awful and have always been. I don't remember too many defensive 2 guards who were that awful offensively. Bowen at least learned to knock down the 3 to make his offense look less terrible.

Can Phil fix him? I don't think so but who knows, maybe he sees something fixable/teachable.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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gunsnewing
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4/10/2014  11:24 AM    LAST EDITED: 4/10/2014  11:27 AM
Bottomline is with Phil there will be a system in place and Shumpert will look a lot better in his role which Woodson never established for any player. Woodson wants to switch which renders zero accountability when defense is a team effort
mreinman
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4/10/2014  11:27 AM
SupremeCommander wrote:I think most of us believe his value is significantly lower than it was when he was defending the league's elite wing players at a very high level. There is a reason OKC and LAC wanted him. I think it would be beyond insane to trade him for pocket lint or a washing machine. Maybe he never hits that level again but good to great teams are interested in him and there is a reason for it, and that reason ain't because you know better than those teams and/or those teams are dumb

Some good teams wanted bargs and paid a hefty price for him. Are you saying they were/are dumb?

How about the teams that wanted Josh Smith, Villenueva or Allen Iverson?

How about Carlos Boozer?

Raymond Felton?

Rudy Gay?

Amare Stat?

Wow come to think of it, most of the leagues dumb moves were made by the Knicks and Detroit!

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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4/11/2014  11:23 AM
Shumpert for Gobert. Knicks need to start looking for a big man for the future I feel Gobert will become a solid center in the NBA.
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4/11/2014  11:34 AM
the most value we can get from Shumpert is to keep him and develop him.

Or we can trade him and watch him flourish and star more threads about how the Knicks never develop their young players.

"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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4/11/2014  11:35 AM
fishmike wrote:the most value we can get from Shumpert is to keep him and develop him.

Or we can trade him and watch him flourish and star more threads about how the Knicks never develop their young players.

Oh you wait!!!

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