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3/23/2014  3:41 PM
2015 is the year for change. There is nothing the team can do until then except trade one bad contract for another one, which is not the way to go. The team is showing now that we have the players to make the playoffs. The team just needs to start the season with a better focus, with better focus, and with a better understanding of what the hell they are doing on defense. This current team should be a 45-50 win team. THe Kincks need to convince Melo to not opt-out and take the big pay day, and then try to sign three max like players like Miami did in 2015.
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3/23/2014  4:33 PM
martin wrote:
Papabear wrote:
martin wrote:
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I believe that Stat have an opt out of his contract and if that is so. Can we restructure Stat to make 10 million the next 2 seasons and 5 million the third season. Melo can take a low ball figure next season and slowly build to top dollar after that. Could we then get a top player for next season and the following season?

Papabear, this scenario does not even make sense. Amare set to make $23M next year. Why would he opt out to make $25M over the next 3?

http://data.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/knicks.jsp

Papabear Says

Why do you say it doesn't make sense? He said that he wants to retire a Knick. All I am trying to do is find a way to spread out the 23 million so he can help the team. Work out a deal paying him the 23 over 2 years and guarantee him money the 3rd if he plays or not because of his knees. If that don't work then just give him the 23 million and be done with it or just trade him. We over paid him to begin with. Now if he doesn't have an opt out clause for the season coming up then this won't work.

"Amare, would you like to make $23M next year or $23M over the next 2 years?"
Amare: "Why you wasting my time?"

Papabear Says

Amare you said that you wanted to retire a Knick. The only way would be for you to take less money like LeBron did by restructuring your deal. Opt out and we pay you your 23 million but then take Players minimum the third year. We will pay you like this. 10 mill 1st year 10 mill 2nd year and 7 mill the 3rd Year if you really want to stay a Knick. What?? you said no? OK then we just trade you or just wait till the 23 mill ends next year and good by.

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3/23/2014  4:35 PM
martin wrote:
Papabear wrote:
martin wrote:
Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

I believe that Stat have an opt out of his contract and if that is so. Can we restructure Stat to make 10 million the next 2 seasons and 5 million the third season. Melo can take a low ball figure next season and slowly build to top dollar after that. Could we then get a top player for next season and the following season?

Papabear, this scenario does not even make sense. Amare set to make $23M next year. Why would he opt out to make $25M over the next 3?

http://data.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/knicks.jsp

Papabear Says

Why do you say it doesn't make sense? He said that he wants to retire a Knick. All I am trying to do is find a way to spread out the 23 million so he can help the team. Work out a deal paying him the 23 over 2 years and guarantee him money the 3rd if he plays or not because of his knees. If that don't work then just give him the 23 million and be done with it or just trade him. We over paid him to begin with. Now if he doesn't have an opt out clause for the season coming up then this won't work.

"Amare, would you like to make $23M next year or $23M over the next 2 years?"
Amare: "Why you wasting my time?"

Papabear Says

How do you know what Amare would do???

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3/23/2014  4:45 PM
Maybe Amare will play for free if we offer him Herbs position after he retires.
so here is what phil is thinking ....
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3/23/2014  5:08 PM
Papabear wrote:
martin wrote:
Papabear wrote:
martin wrote:
Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

I believe that Stat have an opt out of his contract and if that is so. Can we restructure Stat to make 10 million the next 2 seasons and 5 million the third season. Melo can take a low ball figure next season and slowly build to top dollar after that. Could we then get a top player for next season and the following season?

Papabear, this scenario does not even make sense. Amare set to make $23M next year. Why would he opt out to make $25M over the next 3?

http://data.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/knicks.jsp

Papabear Says

Why do you say it doesn't make sense? He said that he wants to retire a Knick. All I am trying to do is find a way to spread out the 23 million so he can help the team. Work out a deal paying him the 23 over 2 years and guarantee him money the 3rd if he plays or not because of his knees. If that don't work then just give him the 23 million and be done with it or just trade him. We over paid him to begin with. Now if he doesn't have an opt out clause for the season coming up then this won't work.

"Amare, would you like to make $23M next year or $23M over the next 2 years?"
Amare: "Why you wasting my time?"

Papabear Says

How do you know what Amare would do???

cause he's human?

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3/23/2014  5:27 PM
martin wrote:
Papabear wrote:
martin wrote:
Papabear wrote:
martin wrote:
Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

I believe that Stat have an opt out of his contract and if that is so. Can we restructure Stat to make 10 million the next 2 seasons and 5 million the third season. Melo can take a low ball figure next season and slowly build to top dollar after that. Could we then get a top player for next season and the following season?

Papabear, this scenario does not even make sense. Amare set to make $23M next year. Why would he opt out to make $25M over the next 3?

http://data.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/knicks.jsp

Papabear Says

Why do you say it doesn't make sense? He said that he wants to retire a Knick. All I am trying to do is find a way to spread out the 23 million so he can help the team. Work out a deal paying him the 23 over 2 years and guarantee him money the 3rd if he plays or not because of his knees. If that don't work then just give him the 23 million and be done with it or just trade him. We over paid him to begin with. Now if he doesn't have an opt out clause for the season coming up then this won't work.

"Amare, would you like to make $23M next year or $23M over the next 2 years?"
Amare: "Why you wasting my time?"

Papabear Says

How do you know what Amare would do???

cause he's human?


Yeah, seriously. Amare's going to basically play a whole season for free?! Just because he wanted to retire a Knick?
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3/24/2014  7:16 PM
martin wrote:
Papabear wrote:
martin wrote:
Papabear wrote:
martin wrote:
Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

I believe that Stat have an opt out of his contract and if that is so. Can we restructure Stat to make 10 million the next 2 seasons and 5 million the third season. Melo can take a low ball figure next season and slowly build to top dollar after that. Could we then get a top player for next season and the following season?

Papabear, this scenario does not even make sense. Amare set to make $23M next year. Why would he opt out to make $25M over the next 3?

http://data.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/knicks.jsp

Papabear Says

Why do you say it doesn't make sense? He said that he wants to retire a Knick. All I am trying to do is find a way to spread out the 23 million so he can help the team. Work out a deal paying him the 23 over 2 years and guarantee him money the 3rd if he plays or not because of his knees. If that don't work then just give him the 23 million and be done with it or just trade him. We over paid him to begin with. Now if he doesn't have an opt out clause for the season coming up then this won't work.

"Amare, would you like to make $23M next year or $23M over the next 2 years?"
Amare: "Why you wasting my time?"

Papabear Says

How do you know what Amare would do???

cause he's human?

Papabear Says

As you should know that there are some guys who opt out of their contracts and they sign for less money. To be fair they thought that someone was going to pay them more and it didn't happen. However you can never be sure. Human didn't play in the way LeBron , Wade, and Bosh taking less money. They are human.

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3/24/2014  7:18 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
martin wrote:
Papabear wrote:
martin wrote:
Papabear wrote:
martin wrote:
Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

I believe that Stat have an opt out of his contract and if that is so. Can we restructure Stat to make 10 million the next 2 seasons and 5 million the third season. Melo can take a low ball figure next season and slowly build to top dollar after that. Could we then get a top player for next season and the following season?

Papabear, this scenario does not even make sense. Amare set to make $23M next year. Why would he opt out to make $25M over the next 3?

http://data.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/knicks.jsp

Papabear Says

Why do you say it doesn't make sense? He said that he wants to retire a Knick. All I am trying to do is find a way to spread out the 23 million so he can help the team. Work out a deal paying him the 23 over 2 years and guarantee him money the 3rd if he plays or not because of his knees. If that don't work then just give him the 23 million and be done with it or just trade him. We over paid him to begin with. Now if he doesn't have an opt out clause for the season coming up then this won't work.

"Amare, would you like to make $23M next year or $23M over the next 2 years?"
Amare: "Why you wasting my time?"

Papabear Says

How do you know what Amare would do???

cause he's human?


Yeah, seriously. Amare's going to basically play a whole season for free?! Just because he wanted to retire a Knick?

Papabear Says

Do you think he earned his 100 million ?? Maybe he feels a little guilty.

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3/24/2014  7:19 PM
Papabear wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
martin wrote:
Papabear wrote:
martin wrote:
Papabear wrote:
martin wrote:
Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

I believe that Stat have an opt out of his contract and if that is so. Can we restructure Stat to make 10 million the next 2 seasons and 5 million the third season. Melo can take a low ball figure next season and slowly build to top dollar after that. Could we then get a top player for next season and the following season?

Papabear, this scenario does not even make sense. Amare set to make $23M next year. Why would he opt out to make $25M over the next 3?

http://data.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/knicks.jsp

Papabear Says

Why do you say it doesn't make sense? He said that he wants to retire a Knick. All I am trying to do is find a way to spread out the 23 million so he can help the team. Work out a deal paying him the 23 over 2 years and guarantee him money the 3rd if he plays or not because of his knees. If that don't work then just give him the 23 million and be done with it or just trade him. We over paid him to begin with. Now if he doesn't have an opt out clause for the season coming up then this won't work.

"Amare, would you like to make $23M next year or $23M over the next 2 years?"
Amare: "Why you wasting my time?"

Papabear Says

How do you know what Amare would do???

cause he's human?


Yeah, seriously. Amare's going to basically play a whole season for free?! Just because he wanted to retire a Knick?

Papabear Says

Do you think he earned his 100 million ?? Maybe he feels a little guilty.

He may feel guilty and he maybe dumb but he is certainly not that dumb

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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3/25/2014  1:30 AM    LAST EDITED: 3/25/2014  1:30 AM
Papabear wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
martin wrote:
Papabear wrote:
martin wrote:
Papabear wrote:
martin wrote:
Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

I believe that Stat have an opt out of his contract and if that is so. Can we restructure Stat to make 10 million the next 2 seasons and 5 million the third season. Melo can take a low ball figure next season and slowly build to top dollar after that. Could we then get a top player for next season and the following season?

Papabear, this scenario does not even make sense. Amare set to make $23M next year. Why would he opt out to make $25M over the next 3?

http://data.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/knicks.jsp

Papabear Says

Why do you say it doesn't make sense? He said that he wants to retire a Knick. All I am trying to do is find a way to spread out the 23 million so he can help the team. Work out a deal paying him the 23 over 2 years and guarantee him money the 3rd if he plays or not because of his knees. If that don't work then just give him the 23 million and be done with it or just trade him. We over paid him to begin with. Now if he doesn't have an opt out clause for the season coming up then this won't work.

"Amare, would you like to make $23M next year or $23M over the next 2 years?"
Amare: "Why you wasting my time?"

Papabear Says

How do you know what Amare would do???

cause he's human?


Yeah, seriously. Amare's going to basically play a whole season for free?! Just because he wanted to retire a Knick?

Papabear Says

Do you think he earned his 100 million ??

In an ethical sense, yes. He did what his contract said he would, including putting his physical body at risk almost every day and working through pain often.
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3/25/2014  11:43 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
Papabear wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
martin wrote:
Papabear wrote:
martin wrote:
Papabear wrote:
martin wrote:
Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

I believe that Stat have an opt out of his contract and if that is so. Can we restructure Stat to make 10 million the next 2 seasons and 5 million the third season. Melo can take a low ball figure next season and slowly build to top dollar after that. Could we then get a top player for next season and the following season?

Papabear, this scenario does not even make sense. Amare set to make $23M next year. Why would he opt out to make $25M over the next 3?

http://data.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/knicks.jsp

Papabear Says

Why do you say it doesn't make sense? He said that he wants to retire a Knick. All I am trying to do is find a way to spread out the 23 million so he can help the team. Work out a deal paying him the 23 over 2 years and guarantee him money the 3rd if he plays or not because of his knees. If that don't work then just give him the 23 million and be done with it or just trade him. We over paid him to begin with. Now if he doesn't have an opt out clause for the season coming up then this won't work.

"Amare, would you like to make $23M next year or $23M over the next 2 years?"
Amare: "Why you wasting my time?"

Papabear Says

How do you know what Amare would do???

cause he's human?


Yeah, seriously. Amare's going to basically play a whole season for free?! Just because he wanted to retire a Knick?

Papabear Says

Do you think he earned his 100 million ??

In an ethical sense, yes. He did what his contract said he would, including putting his physical body at risk almost every day and working through pain often.

Thats twisted.

I think that he was asking if he earned it with his play and the answer is HELL NO! Nobody cares about his ethics.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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3/25/2014  12:09 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/25/2014  12:10 PM
mreinman wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Papabear wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
martin wrote:
Papabear wrote:
martin wrote:
Papabear wrote:
martin wrote:
Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

I believe that Stat have an opt out of his contract and if that is so. Can we restructure Stat to make 10 million the next 2 seasons and 5 million the third season. Melo can take a low ball figure next season and slowly build to top dollar after that. Could we then get a top player for next season and the following season?

Papabear, this scenario does not even make sense. Amare set to make $23M next year. Why would he opt out to make $25M over the next 3?

http://data.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/knicks.jsp

Papabear Says

Why do you say it doesn't make sense? He said that he wants to retire a Knick. All I am trying to do is find a way to spread out the 23 million so he can help the team. Work out a deal paying him the 23 over 2 years and guarantee him money the 3rd if he plays or not because of his knees. If that don't work then just give him the 23 million and be done with it or just trade him. We over paid him to begin with. Now if he doesn't have an opt out clause for the season coming up then this won't work.

"Amare, would you like to make $23M next year or $23M over the next 2 years?"
Amare: "Why you wasting my time?"

Papabear Says

How do you know what Amare would do???

cause he's human?


Yeah, seriously. Amare's going to basically play a whole season for free?! Just because he wanted to retire a Knick?

Papabear Says

Do you think he earned his 100 million ??

In an ethical sense, yes. He did what his contract said he would, including putting his physical body at risk almost every day and working through pain often.

Thats twisted.

I think that he was asking if he earned it with his play and the answer is HELL NO! Nobody cares about his ethics.


No, he's asking if Amare should feel guilty enough to decide that he owes us. And I'm saying no, he destroyed his body for us. From a player's perspective, the money is compensation for the fact that you're putting your one and only body - the one you have for the rest of your life - on the line.
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3/25/2014  12:13 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
mreinman wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Papabear wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
martin wrote:
Papabear wrote:
martin wrote:
Papabear wrote:
martin wrote:
Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

I believe that Stat have an opt out of his contract and if that is so. Can we restructure Stat to make 10 million the next 2 seasons and 5 million the third season. Melo can take a low ball figure next season and slowly build to top dollar after that. Could we then get a top player for next season and the following season?

Papabear, this scenario does not even make sense. Amare set to make $23M next year. Why would he opt out to make $25M over the next 3?

http://data.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/knicks.jsp

Papabear Says

Why do you say it doesn't make sense? He said that he wants to retire a Knick. All I am trying to do is find a way to spread out the 23 million so he can help the team. Work out a deal paying him the 23 over 2 years and guarantee him money the 3rd if he plays or not because of his knees. If that don't work then just give him the 23 million and be done with it or just trade him. We over paid him to begin with. Now if he doesn't have an opt out clause for the season coming up then this won't work.

"Amare, would you like to make $23M next year or $23M over the next 2 years?"
Amare: "Why you wasting my time?"

Papabear Says

How do you know what Amare would do???

cause he's human?


Yeah, seriously. Amare's going to basically play a whole season for free?! Just because he wanted to retire a Knick?

Papabear Says

Do you think he earned his 100 million ??

In an ethical sense, yes. He did what his contract said he would, including putting his physical body at risk almost every day and working through pain often.

Thats twisted.

I think that he was asking if he earned it with his play and the answer is HELL NO! Nobody cares about his ethics.


No, he's asking if Amare should feel guilty enough to decide that he owes us. And I'm saying no, he destroyed his body for us.

He asked if Amare earned his money which he certainly did not.

I would feel guilty if I were him though not guilty enough to give back money. He certainly does not owe us anything. We were as dumb as could be and he was the lucky beneficiary.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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mreinman wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
mreinman wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Papabear wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
martin wrote:
Papabear wrote:
martin wrote:
Papabear wrote:
martin wrote:
Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

I believe that Stat have an opt out of his contract and if that is so. Can we restructure Stat to make 10 million the next 2 seasons and 5 million the third season. Melo can take a low ball figure next season and slowly build to top dollar after that. Could we then get a top player for next season and the following season?

Papabear, this scenario does not even make sense. Amare set to make $23M next year. Why would he opt out to make $25M over the next 3?

http://data.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/knicks.jsp

Papabear Says

Why do you say it doesn't make sense? He said that he wants to retire a Knick. All I am trying to do is find a way to spread out the 23 million so he can help the team. Work out a deal paying him the 23 over 2 years and guarantee him money the 3rd if he plays or not because of his knees. If that don't work then just give him the 23 million and be done with it or just trade him. We over paid him to begin with. Now if he doesn't have an opt out clause for the season coming up then this won't work.

"Amare, would you like to make $23M next year or $23M over the next 2 years?"
Amare: "Why you wasting my time?"

Papabear Says

How do you know what Amare would do???

cause he's human?


Yeah, seriously. Amare's going to basically play a whole season for free?! Just because he wanted to retire a Knick?

Papabear Says

Do you think he earned his 100 million ??

In an ethical sense, yes. He did what his contract said he would, including putting his physical body at risk almost every day and working through pain often.

Thats twisted.

I think that he was asking if he earned it with his play and the answer is HELL NO! Nobody cares about his ethics.


No, he's asking if Amare should feel guilty enough to decide that he owes us. And I'm saying no, he destroyed his body for us.

He asked if Amare earned his money which he certainly did not.

I would feel guilty if I were him though not guilty enough to give back money. He certainly does not owe us anything. We were as dumb as could be and he was the lucky beneficiary.


Scroll up a little. He's saying Amare should play a full season for free out of guilt.
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3/25/2014  12:20 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
mreinman wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
mreinman wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Papabear wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
martin wrote:
Papabear wrote:
martin wrote:
Papabear wrote:
martin wrote:
Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

I believe that Stat have an opt out of his contract and if that is so. Can we restructure Stat to make 10 million the next 2 seasons and 5 million the third season. Melo can take a low ball figure next season and slowly build to top dollar after that. Could we then get a top player for next season and the following season?

Papabear, this scenario does not even make sense. Amare set to make $23M next year. Why would he opt out to make $25M over the next 3?

http://data.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/knicks.jsp

Papabear Says

Why do you say it doesn't make sense? He said that he wants to retire a Knick. All I am trying to do is find a way to spread out the 23 million so he can help the team. Work out a deal paying him the 23 over 2 years and guarantee him money the 3rd if he plays or not because of his knees. If that don't work then just give him the 23 million and be done with it or just trade him. We over paid him to begin with. Now if he doesn't have an opt out clause for the season coming up then this won't work.

"Amare, would you like to make $23M next year or $23M over the next 2 years?"
Amare: "Why you wasting my time?"

Papabear Says

How do you know what Amare would do???

cause he's human?


Yeah, seriously. Amare's going to basically play a whole season for free?! Just because he wanted to retire a Knick?

Papabear Says

Do you think he earned his 100 million ??

In an ethical sense, yes. He did what his contract said he would, including putting his physical body at risk almost every day and working through pain often.

Thats twisted.

I think that he was asking if he earned it with his play and the answer is HELL NO! Nobody cares about his ethics.


No, he's asking if Amare should feel guilty enough to decide that he owes us. And I'm saying no, he destroyed his body for us.

He asked if Amare earned his money which he certainly did not.

I would feel guilty if I were him though not guilty enough to give back money. He certainly does not owe us anything. We were as dumb as could be and he was the lucky beneficiary.


Scroll up a little. He's saying Amare should play a full season for free out of guilt.

yeah I responded to that too. Thats preposterous.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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3/25/2014  12:23 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/25/2014  12:24 PM
mreinman wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
mreinman wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
mreinman wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Papabear wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
martin wrote:
Papabear wrote:
martin wrote:
Papabear wrote:
martin wrote:
Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

I believe that Stat have an opt out of his contract and if that is so. Can we restructure Stat to make 10 million the next 2 seasons and 5 million the third season. Melo can take a low ball figure next season and slowly build to top dollar after that. Could we then get a top player for next season and the following season?

Papabear, this scenario does not even make sense. Amare set to make $23M next year. Why would he opt out to make $25M over the next 3?

http://data.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/knicks.jsp

Papabear Says

Why do you say it doesn't make sense? He said that he wants to retire a Knick. All I am trying to do is find a way to spread out the 23 million so he can help the team. Work out a deal paying him the 23 over 2 years and guarantee him money the 3rd if he plays or not because of his knees. If that don't work then just give him the 23 million and be done with it or just trade him. We over paid him to begin with. Now if he doesn't have an opt out clause for the season coming up then this won't work.

"Amare, would you like to make $23M next year or $23M over the next 2 years?"
Amare: "Why you wasting my time?"

Papabear Says

How do you know what Amare would do???

cause he's human?


Yeah, seriously. Amare's going to basically play a whole season for free?! Just because he wanted to retire a Knick?

Papabear Says

Do you think he earned his 100 million ??

In an ethical sense, yes. He did what his contract said he would, including putting his physical body at risk almost every day and working through pain often.

Thats twisted.

I think that he was asking if he earned it with his play and the answer is HELL NO! Nobody cares about his ethics.


No, he's asking if Amare should feel guilty enough to decide that he owes us. And I'm saying no, he destroyed his body for us.

He asked if Amare earned his money which he certainly did not.

I would feel guilty if I were him though not guilty enough to give back money. He certainly does not owe us anything. We were as dumb as could be and he was the lucky beneficiary.


Scroll up a little. He's saying Amare should play a full season for free out of guilt.

yeah I responded to that too. Thats preposterous.


Well, the whole discussion you're commenting on was about that issue. I'm explaining why, from his perspective, it's unlikely he has the kind of guilt Papa is describing.
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3/25/2014  12:25 PM
I am agreeing with you. Its preposterous to think that he should feel guilty enough to play for free.
so here is what phil is thinking ....
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3/25/2014  12:32 PM
mreinman wrote:I am agreeing with you. Its preposterous to think that he should feel guilty enough to play for free.

Oh I see. I admit I read your first sentence and then just glossed over the rest. I didn't see the part about "though not enough to give back the money." Sorry.
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3/25/2014  2:43 PM
martin wrote:
Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

I believe that Stat have an opt out of his contract and if that is so. Can we restructure Stat to make 10 million the next 2 seasons and 5 million the third season. Melo can take a low ball figure next season and slowly build to top dollar after that. Could we then get a top player for next season and the following season?

Papabear, this scenario does not even make sense. Amare set to make $23M next year. Why would he opt out to make $25M over the next 3?

http://data.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/knicks.jsp

exactly and considering his health history, there is no way he does that...

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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3/25/2014  2:46 PM
martin wrote:
Papabear wrote:
martin wrote:
Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

I believe that Stat have an opt out of his contract and if that is so. Can we restructure Stat to make 10 million the next 2 seasons and 5 million the third season. Melo can take a low ball figure next season and slowly build to top dollar after that. Could we then get a top player for next season and the following season?

Papabear, this scenario does not even make sense. Amare set to make $23M next year. Why would he opt out to make $25M over the next 3?

http://data.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/knicks.jsp

Papabear Says

Why do you say it doesn't make sense? He said that he wants to retire a Knick. All I am trying to do is find a way to spread out the 23 million so he can help the team. Work out a deal paying him the 23 over 2 years and guarantee him money the 3rd if he plays or not because of his knees. If that don't work then just give him the 23 million and be done with it or just trade him. We over paid him to begin with. Now if he doesn't have an opt out clause for the season coming up then this won't work.

"Amare, would you like to make $23M next year or $23M over the next 2 years?"
Amare: "Why you wasting my time?"

yea, that is a suckers offer... something like flipping a coin and saying "heads I win, tails you lose"...

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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