mreinman wrote:Clean wrote:martin wrote:Clean wrote:smackeddog wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Yea. Michael Woodson doesn't seem like a guy who has a full grasp of every element in coaching. So no he is not. Championship coach
What I don't get, and I'm being genuine here, is how does he manage to rustle up these prolonged winning streaks?- he's done it every year he's been here. It seems like his defensive schemes are terrible and he makes no adjustments, yet we've won a lot of games under him- so are we overlooking some of his strengths?
Like clockwork he always gets exposed in the playoffs. He has noticeably been out coached in every playoff series as a Knick coach.
really? which ones?
All of them.
Off the top of my head the series vs the heat it was obvious that the heat did 3 things vs us. They trapped the ball handlers off most PNR's. They played good denial and post D on melo. The last thing I remember they did vs us was any double that was not a trap came from the weak side corner. Woody did nothing to counter these moves. He force fed the ball to Melo in the post and he did not think to put the best 3pt shooter in the league(novak) in the weak side corner EVERY TIME he is on the court.
For the Indiana series he hardly made any adjustments and when he did it was the wrong one. He went big vs the Pacers which is a negative because their bigs are better than our bigs. It also meant that Hibbert would live in the paint because none of our bigs could hit a shot. He played Amare too much after coming back rusty from an injury. He did not play Cope until too late. After the Pacers beat us Frank Vogel specifically said he was glad we did not use Cope in the series. Cope would have meant hibbert could not stay in the paint all game.
Woody lets his players take too many low percentage shots. If that's on the players because they don't listen to the coach? Then we need a coach who will require that players listen to their instructions.
He got out coached in the playoffs because the ball stuck. Very weak ball movement. If you lose and are moving the ball, I am ok with it. But, if you lose going ISO/forced basketball then I blame the coach. Now I know the personnel sucked especially at guard but that is still no excuse to not require ball movement.
Watching the college game and seeing the ball movement that's coached makes me really hate the NBA (especially the knicks style).
Not sure I buy the Cope thing.
I don't buy the cope thing. Cope isn't that good. He got the start in the Celtics series and looked shook. He didn't score a point in the Celtics series. Most coaches don't get called out for not going to their undrafted league mini guy that was given a chance and couldn't produce but that was how desperate the knicks were. Cope is the 14th man on the pacers this year.
Woodson needed to call a time out last night. Last night's mistake isn't a microcosm of his entire tenure as the knick coach. The knicks need a new voice next year and a guy that can be an extension of pjax. That isn't woodson but Woodson had a lot of success as the knicks coach. Woodson has always been handicapped by injuries in the playoffs. Iman, Baron, Lin, Amare, Tyson his first year. Amare, Tyson, Shump, Kidd, Thomas, Sheed, Camby, Melo his second year. The knicks had tremendous misfortune injury wise. Can someone name a coach that overcomes that and beat a team like the world champion heat in 2012 or the pacers in 2013?