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GustavBahler
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3/19/2014  7:42 PM
Sounds like you're feenin' for Josh Smith . Smith doesn't seem like he would be Jackson's kind of guy. Rodman was nuts but he left everything on the floor and was a consumate team player.
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3/19/2014  9:11 PM
NardDogNation wrote:If we keep Melo, we should trade for Josh Smith. Hear me out.

As much as Josh Smith has been maligned this season, he is only one season removed from being considered an all-star caliber player. Yes, his flaws are quite apparent (terrible shot selection and piss poor range) but he offers a great deal more on the court (everything else not previously identified as a "flaw"). Considering Melo's skillset, I think that Smith would be a perfect running-mate for him, especially in the triangle. Best of all, we can probably get him on the cheap but it will come at a loss of our 2015 plans.

Nixluva is posting triangle screen grabs, even when nobody asks - Fishmike. LOL So are we going to reference that thread like the bible now? "The thread of Wroten Page 14 post 9" - EnySpree
NardDogNation
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3/19/2014  10:16 PM
GustavBahler wrote:Sounds like you're feenin' for Josh Smith . Smith doesn't seem like he would be Jackson's kind of guy. Rodman was nuts but he left everything on the floor and was a consumate team player.

LOL, I was specifically thinking of Rodman when I was wondering if Josh Smith had the mental facilities to succeed in the triangle. Am I really off base with this one or are you all "Zach Randolphing" this guy? Just last season, people were talking about Smith being an all-star. I'm not sure if people forgot all of that or if he was being grossly overhyped.

NardDogNation
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3/19/2014  10:17 PM
Cartman718 wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:If we keep Melo, we should trade for Josh Smith. Hear me out.

As much as Josh Smith has been maligned this season, he is only one season removed from being considered an all-star caliber player. Yes, his flaws are quite apparent (terrible shot selection and piss poor range) but he offers a great deal more on the court (everything else not previously identified as a "flaw"). Considering Melo's skillset, I think that Smith would be a perfect running-mate for him, especially in the triangle. Best of all, we can probably get him on the cheap but it will come at a loss of our 2015 plans.

LMFAO.

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3/19/2014  10:25 PM
Josh is pretty good when he's being coached properly. That being said, even if we had a legit coach, I'm not sure he's the best fit to play with Melo.
NardDogNation
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3/19/2014  10:27 PM
tj23 wrote:Josh is pretty good when he's being coached properly. That being said, even if we had a legit coach, I'm not sure he's the best fit to play with Melo.

Why not? He's a Swiss Army blade type player, which is exactly what we'd need to offset the other things that Melo doesn't do from the other forward spot. I think most importantly, Josh Smith is a pretty good defender at either the 3 or 4, which allows us to move Melo between both positions advantageously. I'm not really seeing the downside of Smith other than his contract.

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3/20/2014  12:26 AM    LAST EDITED: 3/20/2014  12:31 AM

NardDogNation
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3/20/2014  1:18 AM    LAST EDITED: 3/20/2014  1:18 AM
Just wrap your minds around this for your New York Knickerbockers....

STARTERS
Jameer Nelson...PG
Aaron Afflalo...SG
Carmelo Anthony...SF
Josh Smith...PF
Spencer Hawes...C

ROTATION
Jimmer Fredette...G
Rodney Stuckey...G
Marvin Williams...F
Earl Clark...F
Ivan Johnson...F/C

...we're talking perennial contender here people!

mreinman
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3/20/2014  8:19 AM
did you realize how many shots Josh took in the first one to get 30 points? Highlight reels are awesome!

29 SHOTS!

I've seen enough!!!

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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3/20/2014  8:31 AM
I had such hopes for this thread, but alas the disclaimer is not to be believed.

Trade Melo.
Get Josh Smith. Who would be great if coached properly. Right.


Notice you didn't rule out abuse of prescription meds, huh?

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3/20/2014  8:33 AM    LAST EDITED: 3/20/2014  8:34 AM
Josh Smith is nearly as petulant as Jr Smith. Why, oh why, would you want a player who has never conformed to team play?

Hell to the No.

Phil Jackson will bring in men who think team basketball, not just play basketball.

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NardDogNation
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3/20/2014  11:11 AM
mreinman wrote:did you realize how many shots Josh took in the first one to get 30 points? Highlight reels are awesome!

29 SHOTS!

I've seen enough!!!

He still shot 47% from the field, which is pretty good. On this team, I doubt he sees nearly as many shot attempts. For one, we wouldn't need him to score and two, the triangle would make him more ball movement conscious. Two of Smith's strongest suits is his ability to move without the ball and still be a major concern for the defense and his excellent passing ability; which would bode well in the system.

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3/20/2014  11:12 AM
jrodmc wrote:I had such hopes for this thread, but alas the disclaimer is not to be believed.

Trade Melo.
Get Josh Smith. Who would be great if coached properly. Right.


Notice you didn't rule out abuse of prescription meds, huh?

You know you want to join the party, lol.

NardDogNation
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3/20/2014  11:19 AM
misterearl wrote:Josh Smith is nearly as petulant as Jr Smith. Why, oh why, would you want a player who has never conformed to team play?

Hell to the No.

Phil Jackson will bring in men who think team basketball, not just play basketball.

Comparing Josh Smith to JR is unfair. Outside of scoring, what has JR ever been known for? Josh Smith, on the other hand, positively impacts the game in every non-scoring statistic. Yes, his shot selection can be poor at times but Josh has never received the Zen treatment. That worked on Dennis "I Like to Rub Elbows With the Most Brutal of Dictators and Then Wonder Why People Are Mad At Me" Rodman. You see Josh Smith being more crazy and less redeemable? He was an all-star candidate just last season, when he had the opportunity to play the 4 and operate closer to the basketball....which is exactly what we'd need him to do!

NYKBocker
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3/20/2014  11:32 AM
Josh Smith is not a system type player. Dude has no ball skills.
NardDogNation
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3/20/2014  12:38 PM
NYKBocker wrote:Josh Smith is not a system type player. Dude has no ball skills.

He currently averages 3.4 assists as a 3 man on a team that can't shoot. How could you come to that determination?

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3/20/2014  9:07 PM
NardDogNation wrote:Just wrap your minds around this for your New York Knickerbockers....

STARTERS
Jameer Nelson...PG
Aaron Afflalo...SG
Carmelo Anthony...SF
Josh Smith...PF
Spencer Hawes...C

ROTATION
Jimmer Fredette...G
Rodney Stuckey...G
Marvin Williams...F
Earl Clark...F
Ivan Johnson...F/C

...we're talking perennial contender here people!

Eww. You really think that team would produce?

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