dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Andrew wrote:

holfresh wrote:I totally agree with this assessment and he has to be the GM...He can't bring in guys that fits his system but guys who fits the new coach system...I thought the same as Bondy yesterday..

I think what is being said here is a system is going to be established (by Phil) and that the coach and players are selected based on that. If not, every time a coach changes its possible that you'd have to start over with selecting players that fit the coaches system. 1 strategy, and it starts from Phil.

Isn't the system established by the coach??..In that, it renders the coach powerless...What coach would want to give up that power..All good coaches have their own philosophy, just like Phil does...I can't see many wanting to summit to Phil's will unless they lack experience...

he is the most successful coach in nba history. he is now president of basketball operations. he is going to bring in candidates that will adhere to the principles he has won with 13 times, including two times as player under red holzman's personal tutelage in 1969-1970 when he was injured.

red holzman taught phil jackson and red holzman is the only coach to have won titles in new york.

what you are begging for, it seems, is chaos instead of continuity and a shared plan.

why?

If Phil want to coach, he should coach..

"i am too old to play and i am too lame to coach."
"i have had 5 operations in the last several years for hips and knees. and i have other healthy issues as well."

he is not interested in coaching but he does want someone here who will be an extension of him who understands the principles and fundamentals of basketball that he himself instilled in his players when he was a coach and earlier still what he was taught when he played.

any coach who comes in here should be working under the auspices of phil jackson, not as some sort of separate free agent. how else do you expect "systemic" change otherwise? this franchise has been a disaster because nobody has been on the same page and the owner did not allow the gms to do their jobs.

So Phil will be the de facto coach, just not traveling with the team??

nope. you bring in cartwright or kerr and you have two guys who understand the triangle. no doubt jackson will be having closed sessions to look at game video with his coach or coaching staff, either in the same room or via internet. it's the 21st century.

And you have no problem with that...

what's your problem with that? you don't need to be in the same room anymore, videoconferences happen all the time. or you don't like the notion of cartwright or kerr on the sidelines?

jackson is going to have plenty of opportunities to be with the team he assembles, imparting his principles and at worst have proxies of him on the sidelines, not puppets. proxies.

Video conferences???

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Andrew wrote:

holfresh wrote:I totally agree with this assessment and he has to be the GM...He can't bring in guys that fits his system but guys who fits the new coach system...I thought the same as Bondy yesterday..

I think what is being said here is a system is going to be established (by Phil) and that the coach and players are selected based on that. If not, every time a coach changes its possible that you'd have to start over with selecting players that fit the coaches system. 1 strategy, and it starts from Phil.

Isn't the system established by the coach??..In that, it renders the coach powerless...What coach would want to give up that power..All good coaches have their own philosophy, just like Phil does...I can't see many wanting to summit to Phil's will unless they lack experience...

he is the most successful coach in nba history. he is now president of basketball operations. he is going to bring in candidates that will adhere to the principles he has won with 13 times, including two times as player under red holzman's personal tutelage in 1969-1970 when he was injured.

red holzman taught phil jackson and red holzman is the only coach to have won titles in new york.

what you are begging for, it seems, is chaos instead of continuity and a shared plan.

why?

If Phil want to coach, he should coach..

"i am too old to play and i am too lame to coach."
"i have had 5 operations in the last several years for hips and knees. and i have other healthy issues as well."

he is not interested in coaching but he does want someone here who will be an extension of him who understands the principles and fundamentals of basketball that he himself instilled in his players when he was a coach and earlier still what he was taught when he played.

any coach who comes in here should be working under the auspices of phil jackson, not as some sort of separate free agent. how else do you expect "systemic" change otherwise? this franchise has been a disaster because nobody has been on the same page and the owner did not allow the gms to do their jobs.

So Phil will be the de facto coach, just not traveling with the team??

nope. you bring in cartwright or kerr and you have two guys who understand the triangle. no doubt jackson will be having closed sessions to look at game video with his coach or coaching staff, either in the same room or via internet. it's the 21st century.

And you have no problem with that...

what's your problem with that? you don't need to be in the same room anymore, videoconferences happen all the time. or you don't like the notion of cartwright or kerr on the sidelines?

jackson is going to have plenty of opportunities to be with the team he assembles, imparting his principles and at worst have proxies of him on the sidelines, not puppets. proxies.

Video conferences???

yes where they are all looking at the same videos online in a private network.

WTF do you live in a tent

How is it possible for us to hire Phil Jackson and have it be a clusterfcuk, this is the way, only Dolan can pull this off....

mreinman wrote:I think that we should have made felton our coach he can probably teach the team MDA's system

lol

holfresh wrote:

Andrew wrote:

holfresh wrote:I totally agree with this assessment and he has to be the GM...He can't bring in guys that fits his system but guys who fits the new coach system...I thought the same as Bondy yesterday..

I think what is being said here is a system is going to be established (by Phil) and that the coach and players are selected based on that. If not, every time a coach changes its possible that you'd have to start over with selecting players that fit the coaches system. 1 strategy, and it starts from Phil.

Isn't the system established by the coach??..In that, it renders the coach powerless...What coach would want to give up that power..All good coaches have their own philosophy, just like Phil does...I can't see many wanting to summit to Phil's will unless they lack experience...

You're arguing apples and oranges. Yes, the coach sets the system but Phil gets to establish the culture. I think that is all that he was alluding to during the press conference.

mreinman wrote:why did Phil say that the triangle has been much maligned in the last few years? I did not get that.

Many of Phil's guys have been either blackballed out of the NBA or never got much attention for coaching vacancies.

These are things that cleamons and shaw lack. Phil will have kerr's back. It's easier with Phil's presense overlooking the team

martin wrote:

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NardDogNation wrote:

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gunsnewing wrote:It's gonna be Kerr. Everything else is a mute point

Has Kerr ever coached or been an assistant or does it matter??

I think the answer is becoming increasingly clear that it doesn't matter. Two of the better coaches in the league, Mark Jackson and Jeff Hornacek, had no prior coaching experience before getting their jobs. And at the same time, Jason Kidd had no coaching experience and is becoming increasingly better.

And what have they won???..Jackson might be fired this year by the way...

They have won a lot of respect for getting their teams to play above expectations. BTW, good coaches and GMs get fired all the time.

Winning a few games doesn't mean you are good...