MSG3 wrote:Does he have a player option next season or is just a straight final year? Would be highly unlikely but awesome if he opted out and took less to be able to sign other guys. Same with Bargs, although I think it would be more likely for STAT to do that than Bargs.

Stat's contract is done after 14/15 season (he will make $23.5 mil that year). He will be 33 years old during the 15/16 season coming off various injuries including microfracture and back problems. The fact that people are talking about Stat even coming back is a testament to the "now is forever" mentality of being a sports fan based on Stat's very recent run of being able to stay injury free. He is performing well, but still being held back from playing in back to back games. Unfortunately by that time Stat should be a year to year Vet Min guy IMHO. Not so much based on his performance, but there will be too much risk given his injury history and high potential breakdown to signing him for multiple years. Why lock up extra salary cap space?

foosballnick wrote:

MSG3 wrote:Does he have a player option next season or is just a straight final year? Would be highly unlikely but awesome if he opted out and took less to be able to sign other guys. Same with Bargs, although I think it would be more likely for STAT to do that than Bargs.

Stat's contract is done after 14/15 season (he will make $23.5 mil that year). He will be 33 years old during the 15/16 season coming off various injuries including microfracture and back problems. The fact that people are talking about Stat even coming back is a testament to the "now is forever" mentality of being a sports fan based on Stat's very recent run of being able to stay injury free. He is performing well, but still being held back from playing in back to back games. Unfortunately by that time Stat should be a year to year Vet Min guy IMHO. Not so much based on his performance, but there will be too much risk given his injury history and high potential breakdown to signing him for multiple years. Why lock up extra salary cap space?

I want him as part of the Knick legacy. A year to year signing, starting at 4-5 mil the first year. We get to re-access his production after the end of each season.

I think we should go all in for another 5/hunge million. Why not? We owe him, he made us "relevant"!

He happens to be playing really well now but I would be in 10 day contract mode if I were the knicks.

knicks1248 wrote:

dk7th wrote:amare is not a triangle player

I guess with all your yr's of coaching/playing in the triangle, you would know best.

IMHO, Amare is a system player, and will fit well in most sytems that don't require 80% Iso's

he does not move great without the ball-- his legs are not in great shape for that-- and he is not a good passer. he does have great hands and can catch passes in traffic. so physically and mentally he may not have what it takes.

defensively he is a liability.

dk7th wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

dk7th wrote:amare is not a triangle player

I guess with all your yr's of coaching/playing in the triangle, you would know best.

IMHO, Amare is a system player, and will fit well in most sytems that don't require 80% Iso's

he does not move great without the ball-- his legs are not in great shape for that-- and he is not a good passer. he does have great hands and can catch passes in traffic. so physically and mentally he may not have what it takes.

defensively he is a liability.

Amare has great hands? I find that he has awful hands and fumbleitis

mreinman wrote:

dk7th wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

dk7th wrote:amare is not a triangle player

I guess with all your yr's of coaching/playing in the triangle, you would know best.

IMHO, Amare is a system player, and will fit well in most sytems that don't require 80% Iso's

he does not move great without the ball-- his legs are not in great shape for that-- and he is not a good passer. he does have great hands and can catch passes in traffic. so physically and mentally he may not have what it takes.

defensively he is a liability.

Amare has great hands? I find that he has awful hands and fumbleitis

with steve nash my statement stands. with raymond felton my statement is false. since nobody in a knick uniform is a truly great passer, pocket or otherwise, amare will not fit into the triangle.

dk7th wrote:

mreinman wrote:

dk7th wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

dk7th wrote:amare is not a triangle player

I guess with all your yr's of coaching/playing in the triangle, you would know best.

IMHO, Amare is a system player, and will fit well in most sytems that don't require 80% Iso's

he does not move great without the ball-- his legs are not in great shape for that-- and he is not a good passer. he does have great hands and can catch passes in traffic. so physically and mentally he may not have what it takes.

defensively he is a liability.

Amare has great hands? I find that he has awful hands and fumbleitis

with steve nash my statement stands. with raymond felton my statement is false. since nobody in a knick uniform is a truly great passer, pocket or otherwise, amare will not fit into the triangle.

I see amare getting the ball below his knees, the spacing is horrible at times, and some of the passes are bailouts..He doesn't fumble the ball in the high post, he only fumbles in the low post and a half ass Pnr

dk7th wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

dk7th wrote:

mreinman wrote:

dk7th wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

dk7th wrote:amare is not a triangle player

I guess with all your yr's of coaching/playing in the triangle, you would know best.

IMHO, Amare is a system player, and will fit well in most sytems that don't require 80% Iso's

he does not move great without the ball-- his legs are not in great shape for that-- and he is not a good passer. he does have great hands and can catch passes in traffic. so physically and mentally he may not have what it takes.

defensively he is a liability.

Amare has great hands? I find that he has awful hands and fumbleitis

with steve nash my statement stands. with raymond felton my statement is false. since nobody in a knick uniform is a truly great passer, pocket or otherwise, amare will not fit into the triangle.

I see amare getting the ball below his knees, the spacing is horrible at times, and some of the passes are bailouts..He doesn't fumble the ball in the high post, he only fumbles in the low post and a half ass Pnr

that was not the case with nash feeding him those cookies. just goes to show how much stoudemire needed a great QB and how far short felton is of that standard. yet we brought him here not once but twice-- at the expense of a better passer than himself in lin. just imagine if we had not acquired melo in a trade and had been able to acquire chris paul instead.

but it's all good. it's a great day for knicks fans. dolan has repeated several times today that he will have zero control over basketball decisions and that it is phil's team.

and phil underscored that in no manner way shape or form would he have agreed to come here without that prerequisite.