nixluva wrote:

arkrud wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

nixluva wrote:Here's some basic diagrams of the Triangle and some variations off the basic set.

A real life pic of the Lakers in the Triangle:

I would be curious to see how Phil would restructure the Knicks with the guys we have on the roster now. We most likely will have a similar roster next year so it would be interesting to see how they'd work the triangle and make no mistake that Phil would be working with the new coach on just how best to make it work with the current roster. My guess is that Phil is going to be looking for a Center that can be the focal point of the Triangle or maybe he puts Melo in the post as the big posting up in Gasol's spot.

I don't understand it! After all these years of watching basketball, I still struggle to make sense of basic basketball plays!

This is the key... most of the people in NBA have no idea too. Then one have 11 rings...

Smackeddog Diagram B would be of direct interest to the Knicks with Melo as the 4 in the post and the PG and perhaps THJ in the Triangle. It's going to be really important for Phil to start bringing in smarter players that can master the sets and see the openings. Since we'll be stuck with pretty much the same roster I think, we would have to develop Tyler, STAT and even Bargs to be pivot men who can dish the ball, which actually isn't rocket science. Most of the passes are very short hand off type passes to cutters or a shooter standing still. The more skilled all your players are the more difficult it is to defend the Triangle. You want guys that can shoot and pass well. It will be very interesting to see if Phil demands his coach run the Triangle offense or not.

Ha- I can just about get A and B, but no further- by the time I'm looking at D, E and F my brain is starting to melt!

The irony is we have players who are good passers- they just choose not too. Bargs, Amar'e, Jr and Melo have all shown the ability to throw nifty passes when they want to.

I agree with you about our next coach- it would be nice to have one who can make adjustments and isn't outsmarted by the top teams coaches all the time.

I do believe we have some pieces that can do the triangle: Amare, Tyson, Pablo, Shumpert, Bargs, and Felton. Everyone else? I'm not so sure.

... and sticks with the Knicks

As the new president of the New York Knicks, Phil Jackson has plenty to do to turn around a franchise that hasn't won a title in 41 years. One of his top priorities will be to figure out who's coaching the team next season. Below, we offer five candidates Jackson may turn to:

Steve Kerr: Kerr won three titles while playing for Jackson and the Bulls. He's intimately familiar with Jackson's triangle offense and has expressed an interest in coaching. The one drawback here is that the Knicks would have a first-year president and a first-year coach if Kerr is brought on board.

Byron Scott: The ex-Laker has 13 years of experience on an NBA bench and is well-respected in coaching circles. But you have to wonder if the hiring of Scott will go over well with Knicks management and the team's fan base.

Brian Shaw: Shaw signed a three-year deal to coach the Denver Nuggets last spring. So it's unlikely that he ends up on the Knicks' bench. But Shaw has strong ties to Jackson. He won three titles with Jackson as a Laker and he is well-schooled in the triangle offense.

Phil Jackson: We know Jackson turned down an offer to coach the Knicks and has expressed no desire to return to the bench. But a source told ESPN LA's Ramona Shelburne last week he is open to the possibility of coaching for a short period of time if it was necessary. So the possibility of Jackson starting next season on the bench shouldn't be summarily dismissed.

Mike Woodson: This is the long shot of long shots, given how the season has gone. But until the Knicks officially fire him, the possibility that Woodson ends up coaching the team next season should at least be considered. Woodson and Jackson both have a strong affinity for legendary Knicks coach Red Holzman, so maybe that helps Woodson, who is under contract for next season, state his case to remain on the bench when he gets a chance to talk to Jackson. Also, the Knicks have won five straight and are making a late playoff push.

I actually don't mind the idea of Kerr. I think he would bring some GM experience and with PJax here he would have a coaching mentor available. It would create a solid cohesion between GM and coach in terms of philosophy and tactics. Kerr is used to being the coach on the floor for Phil and now can be that on the bench.

nixluva wrote:Short list of coaches that could be on PJax list.

As the new president of the New York Knicks, Phil Jackson has plenty to do to turn around a franchise that hasn't won a title in 41 years. One of his top priorities will be to figure out who's coaching the team next season. Below, we offer five candidates Jackson may turn to:

Steve Kerr: Kerr won three titles while playing for Jackson and the Bulls. He's intimately familiar with Jackson's triangle offense and has expressed an interest in coaching. The one drawback here is that the Knicks would have a first-year president and a first-year coach if Kerr is brought on board.

Byron Scott: The ex-Laker has 13 years of experience on an NBA bench and is well-respected in coaching circles. But you have to wonder if the hiring of Scott will go over well with Knicks management and the team's fan base.

Brian Shaw: Shaw signed a three-year deal to coach the Denver Nuggets last spring. So it's unlikely that he ends up on the Knicks' bench. But Shaw has strong ties to Jackson. He won three titles with Jackson as a Laker and he is well-schooled in the triangle offense.

Phil Jackson: We know Jackson turned down an offer to coach the Knicks and has expressed no desire to return to the bench. But a source told ESPN LA's Ramona Shelburne last week he is open to the possibility of coaching for a short period of time if it was necessary. So the possibility of Jackson starting next season on the bench shouldn't be summarily dismissed.

Mike Woodson: This is the long shot of long shots, given how the season has gone. But until the Knicks officially fire him, the possibility that Woodson ends up coaching the team next season should at least be considered. Woodson and Jackson both have a strong affinity for legendary Knicks coach Red Holzman, so maybe that helps Woodson, who is under contract for next season, state his case to remain on the bench when he gets a chance to talk to Jackson. Also, the Knicks have won five straight and are making a late playoff push.

I actually don't mind the idea of Kerr. I think he would bring some GM experience and with PJax here he would have a coaching mentor available. It would create a solid cohesion between GM and coach in terms of philosophy and tactics. Kerr is used to being the coach on the floor for Phil and now can be that on the bench.

Not that I want him, but I think you have to add Rambis to that list as well..

nixluva wrote:I was just listening to an interview with Kerr and he said that he likes the way the Pacers and Bulls play with bigs. He said he still prefers 2 bigs who can defend the paint, as opposed to 4 smalls and a big. He wants ball movement to force the defense to respond and he HATES ISO BB. Wants spacing and ball movement. He wants a flow to the game rather than standing around. He said that he takes bits from PJax, Pop and Cotton who he played for. He mentioned the success of 1st time coach like Jeff Hornacek of the Suns as an example of a guy being ready despite not having coached before.

http://espn.go.com/espnradio/newyork/play?id=10562217

Great stuff. Philosophies I've been praying for years while everyone wants the Knicks to play small ball, run and gun, shoot the 3 with very little defense and rebounding

nixluva wrote:

arkrud wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

nixluva wrote:Here's some basic diagrams of the Triangle and some variations off the basic set.

A real life pic of the Lakers in the Triangle:

I would be curious to see how Phil would restructure the Knicks with the guys we have on the roster now. We most likely will have a similar roster next year so it would be interesting to see how they'd work the triangle and make no mistake that Phil would be working with the new coach on just how best to make it work with the current roster. My guess is that Phil is going to be looking for a Center that can be the focal point of the Triangle or maybe he puts Melo in the post as the big posting up in Gasol's spot.

I don't understand it! After all these years of watching basketball, I still struggle to make sense of basic basketball plays!

This is the key... most of the people in NBA have no idea too. Then one have 11 rings...

Smackeddog Diagram B would be of direct interest to the Knicks with Melo as the 4 in the post and the PG and perhaps THJ in the Triangle. It's going to be really important for Phil to start bringing in smarter players that can master the sets and see the openings. Since we'll be stuck with pretty much the same roster I think, we would have to develop Tyler, STAT and even Bargs to be pivot men who can dish the ball, which actually isn't rocket science. Most of the passes are very short hand off type passes to cutters or a shooter standing still. The more skilled all your players are the more difficult it is to defend the Triangle. You want guys that can shoot and pass well. It will be very interesting to see if Phil demands his coach run the Triangle offense or not.

I'm gonna start calling you Coach, nix! I'm like smackeddog, I have a lot to learn about plays (I've never played outside of really bad pickup playground half court). Had a question: what is the best way to defend the triangle?

DrAlphaeus wrote:I'm gonna start calling you Coach, nix! I'm like smackeddog, I have a lot to learn about plays (I've never played outside of really bad pickup playground half court). Had a question: what is the best way to defend the triangle?

I'm no coach and I have no idea of exactly what would be the best approach to stopping the Triangle being played by top tier talent. In truth I think it's just important to have good man defenders on your team period! It's hard to avoid mismatches but the way that Phil's teams have been built he's had highly skilled and athletically talented players who can take advantage of weak defense and even score on good defense. The Triangle helps them because NO ONE else is running it and certainly not at the level they run it. So trying to defend it being played by the best talent in the NBA must be near impossible. Think about the superior talent Phil has had at times. Now add in an offensive scheme that practically no one else uses and teams aren't going to be as prepared to defend it.

On top of all this Phil has to have intelligent players or else they can't grasp the offense to begin with. So add that on top of everything else i've mentioned and you can begin to see the advantages it gives his teams. It's going to be interesting to see the type of players Phil looks to bring to this team.

TheN genius Michael Woodson puts an undersized SF on the floor with 2 6footers in the back court and it's a recipe for a defensive disaster

Phil don't play that