misterearl wrote:Uncle Phil

“Phil, as it is, is an anti-establishment guy. He’s a free spirit, he says whatever is on his mind and he is a fascinating guy. Dolan might promise him that he’ll leave him alone, there’ll be a honeymoon period, [but] there’s no way that can last. … It would be very difficult for Phil to work in the environment that is set up at the Garden. That’s the most succinct way I can put it.”

“Why’d (Donnie Walsh) leave? Everybody leaves. There’s a reason. Dolan’s [the reason]

“It’s very difficult under those conditions. People can’t talk to the media, and they really need a front person because they put it all on Mike Woodson whenever anything happens and that’s wrong. The coach shouldn’t have to deal with these other issues. It should be the general manager or the owner of the team.”

- Marv Albert

CashMoney - your thoughts?

The only way Dolan will leave Knicks alone if he already sucked out all live out of this pure franchise.
If he still need some endorsements from CAA for his band to worm up Eagles and such he will continue to abuse Knicks again and again Phil on no-Phil.

misterearl wrote:Uncle Phil

“Phil, as it is, is an anti-establishment guy. He’s a free spirit, he says whatever is on his mind and he is a fascinating guy. Dolan might promise him that he’ll leave him alone, there’ll be a honeymoon period, [but] there’s no way that can last. … It would be very difficult for Phil to work in the environment that is set up at the Garden. That’s the most succinct way I can put it.”

“Why’d (Donnie Walsh) leave? Everybody leaves. There’s a reason. Dolan’s [the reason]

“It’s very difficult under those conditions. People can’t talk to the media, and they really need a front person because they put it all on Mike Woodson whenever anything happens and that’s wrong. The coach shouldn’t have to deal with these other issues. It should be the general manager or the owner of the team.”

- Marv Albert

CashMoney - your thoughts?

Sprewell was a free spirit also and he did OK here.

Phil will have to manage Dolan, just like everyone else in the real world has to manager their bosses. Whoop de doo.

misterearl wrote:Uncle Phil

“Phil, as it is, is an anti-establishment guy. He’s a free spirit, he says whatever is on his mind and he is a fascinating guy. Dolan might promise him that he’ll leave him alone, there’ll be a honeymoon period, [but] there’s no way that can last. … It would be very difficult for Phil to work in the environment that is set up at the Garden. That’s the most succinct way I can put it.”

“Why’d (Donnie Walsh) leave? Everybody leaves. There’s a reason. Dolan’s [the reason]

“It’s very difficult under those conditions. People can’t talk to the media, and they really need a front person because they put it all on Mike Woodson whenever anything happens and that’s wrong. The coach shouldn’t have to deal with these other issues. It should be the general manager or the owner of the team.”

- Marv Albert

CashMoney - your thoughts?

I much as I detest Dolan, when Isiah was putting us into cap hell Dolan pretty much stepped aside and let Zeke do his thing. He's left Sather alone for over a decade. Although we all know that the Knicks are more important to Dolan than the Rangers it makes me think that Dolan is capable of stepping aside, especially for a guy who has the resume of Jax.

Dolan is a jerk but he is loyal jerk. Just think of all the dumb moves the man has made over the years, especially with coaches. I can't see Jackson coming to us being bad in any way, especially when considering that Jackson must have laid down the law.

All I can say is that it will be interesting to see what happens once Phil is introduced.

A
We succeed

B
We fail, he gets fired, he will open is mouth on Dolan, and people care for what Pjax has to say

PS
JUST SIGN ALREADY!

mreinman wrote:

playa2 wrote:
Jackson wants Melo to stay if he comes on board

at what price? Certainly not a max extension. Maybe he wants Melo to not opt out.

CrushAlot wrote:

mreinman wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

mreinman wrote:

playa2 wrote:
Jackson wants Melo to stay if he comes on board

at what price? Certainly not a max extension. Maybe he wants Melo to not opt out.

I think he just wants Melo. There are only a handful of guys that good and he knows it. Good place to start.

So you would sign him to a max?

I think if you consider not signing Lin to a 15 mil deal in his final year that would cost the knicks 65 mil in penalties a mistake then not signing melo to a max deal is a huge mistake. Obviously management should attempt to negotiate a deal that allows the team more flexibility but if he pushes for the max I think they have to sign him. That isn't an Amare contract or even a Tyson/Bargs deal. Melo is one of the best guys in the league right now. A team like the Knicks, trying to overcome tremendous mismanagement in the past and dysfunction from ownership and players needs to hold onto the one guy that is respected among his peers and in the league.

eeeeeeesh - The only reason that I would have signed Lin (though painfully) is that he would not cut into the 2015 cap space. I could care less how much Dolan would pay him in 2014.

Given Melo the max is extremely dangerous and would handcuff us. That is not knocking him, Lebron took less, hopefully Melo would realize that this would be detrimental to winning.

Anyway, lets see what Phil does (if there is a Phil which with everyday seems a bit less likely). I trust that he is no dummy.

CrushAlot wrote:

mreinman wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

mreinman wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

mreinman wrote:

playa2 wrote:
Jackson wants Melo to stay if he comes on board

at what price? Certainly not a max extension. Maybe he wants Melo to not opt out.

I think he just wants Melo. There are only a handful of guys that good and he knows it. Good place to start.

So you would sign him to a max?

I think if you consider not signing Lin to a 15 mil deal in his final year that would cost the knicks 65 mil in penalties a mistake then not signing melo to a max deal is a huge mistake. Obviously management should attempt to negotiate a deal that allows the team more flexibility but if he pushes for the max I think they have to sign him. That isn't an Amare contract or even a Tyson/Bargs deal. Melo is one of the best guys in the league right now. A team like the Knicks, trying to overcome tremendous mismanagement in the past and dysfunction from ownership and players needs to hold onto the one guy that is respected among his peers and in the league.

eeeeeeesh - The only reason that I would have signed Lin (though painfully) is that he would not cut into the 2015 cap space. I could care less how much Dolan would pay him in 2014.

Given Melo the max is extremely dangerous and would handcuff us. That is not knocking him, Lebron took less, hopefully Melo would realize that this would be detrimental to winning.

Anyway, lets see what Phil does (if there is a Phil which with everyday seems a bit less likely). I trust that he is no dummy.

Melo has said he would take less. However, there is no state or city income tax in Miami so LBJ actually takes home more than Melo even though he took less gross salary.

Haha! You are already making excuses as to why its ok when he does not take less.

Melo is having a very good season though locking him up at the max IMHO with be the dumbest thing that we can do since the last dumbest thing we did.

Have we learned anything?? Or still just about the starphuck?

There is no way that Phil is dumb enough to do this unless as some have stated, that he is just here for the cash grab.