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OasisBU
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3/10/2014  9:42 PM
IronWillGiroud wrote:MARK THESE WORDS, BRETHREN:

this is dolan's most impressive star****ing of all time!!

WHY DIDN'T HE COME TO COACH?? BECAUSE HE WOULDN'T COACH THIS MESS WITH A 20 FOOT LADDER, SO HE'S GONNA BE THE FAT CAT IN THE NICE CHAIR!!!! DOESN'T MATTER TO HIM WTF HAPPENS OR WHAT DOLAN WANTS TO DO WITH HIS JAZZ BAND!!

My guess is if we are lucky we will get a Riley situation where once the roster is in place he will coach if there is the possibility of winning a championship - unless we have someone in there he knows can get it done.

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3/10/2014  9:45 PM
OasisBU wrote:
IronWillGiroud wrote:MARK THESE WORDS, BRETHREN:

this is dolan's most impressive star****ing of all time!!

WHY DIDN'T HE COME TO COACH?? BECAUSE HE WOULDN'T COACH THIS MESS WITH A 20 FOOT LADDER, SO HE'S GONNA BE THE FAT CAT IN THE NICE CHAIR!!!! DOESN'T MATTER TO HIM WTF HAPPENS OR WHAT DOLAN WANTS TO DO WITH HIS JAZZ BAND!!

My guess is if we are lucky we will get a Riley situation where once the roster is in place he will coach if there is the possibility of winning a championship - unless we have someone in there he knows can get it done.
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3/10/2014  10:23 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA · 4h
As I reported in column, still no assurance an agreement will be reached. No one in Jackson's world thinks deal is "close," that's for sure
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3/10/2014  10:30 PM
What a letdown...
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3/10/2014  11:14 PM
Never heard of this site, but figured I'd report it anyway.....

http://www.reachnyc.com/phil-jackson-joins-the-ny-knicks-as-president-of-basketball-operations/

Phil Jackson Joins The NY Knicks as President of Basketball Operations
on Mar 10, 2014 | 0 Comment

Phil Jackson is back in New York! After winning 2 championships with the Knicks as a player in 1970 and 1973, Phil Jackson, is back home, this time as President of Basketball Operations.

According to our source, Jackson and the Knicks came to an agreement on Monday afternoon, with a press conference scheduled for Wednesday.

While details are still unconfirmed, we can say that Jackson will not be coaching the team and instead will be in charge of all basketball related decisions. Jackson’s first hurdle will be convincing Carmelo Anthony to re-sign with New York after his contract expires this summer.

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3/10/2014  11:18 PM
Uptown wrote:Never heard of this site, but figured I'd report it anyway.....

http://www.reachnyc.com/phil-jackson-joins-the-ny-knicks-as-president-of-basketball-operations/

Phil Jackson Joins The NY Knicks as President of Basketball Operations
on Mar 10, 2014 | 0 Comment

Phil Jackson is back in New York! After winning 2 championships with the Knicks as a player in 1970 and 1973, Phil Jackson, is back home, this time as President of Basketball Operations.

According to our source, Jackson and the Knicks came to an agreement on Monday afternoon, with a press conference scheduled for Wednesday.

While details are still unconfirmed, we can say that Jackson will not be coaching the team and instead will be in charge of all basketball related decisions. Jackson’s first hurdle will be convincing Carmelo Anthony to re-sign with New York after his contract expires this summer.

but it says they will announce it monday afternoon so it was already wrong

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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3/10/2014  11:20 PM
mreinman wrote:
Uptown wrote:Never heard of this site, but figured I'd report it anyway.....

http://www.reachnyc.com/phil-jackson-joins-the-ny-knicks-as-president-of-basketball-operations/

Phil Jackson Joins The NY Knicks as President of Basketball Operations
on Mar 10, 2014 | 0 Comment

Phil Jackson is back in New York! After winning 2 championships with the Knicks as a player in 1970 and 1973, Phil Jackson, is back home, this time as President of Basketball Operations.

According to our source, Jackson and the Knicks came to an agreement on Monday afternoon, with a press conference scheduled for Wednesday.

While details are still unconfirmed, we can say that Jackson will not be coaching the team and instead will be in charge of all basketball related decisions. Jackson’s first hurdle will be convincing Carmelo Anthony to re-sign with New York after his contract expires this summer.

but it says they will announce it monday afternoon so it was already wrong

It says, they will announce it wednesday....

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3/10/2014  11:23 PM
Uptown wrote:
mreinman wrote:
Uptown wrote:Never heard of this site, but figured I'd report it anyway.....

http://www.reachnyc.com/phil-jackson-joins-the-ny-knicks-as-president-of-basketball-operations/

Phil Jackson Joins The NY Knicks as President of Basketball Operations
on Mar 10, 2014 | 0 Comment

Phil Jackson is back in New York! After winning 2 championships with the Knicks as a player in 1970 and 1973, Phil Jackson, is back home, this time as President of Basketball Operations.

According to our source, Jackson and the Knicks came to an agreement on Monday afternoon, with a press conference scheduled for Wednesday.

While details are still unconfirmed, we can say that Jackson will not be coaching the team and instead will be in charge of all basketball related decisions. Jackson’s first hurdle will be convincing Carmelo Anthony to re-sign with New York after his contract expires this summer.

but it says they will announce it monday afternoon so it was already wrong

It says, they will announce it wednesday....

oh sorry dyslexia

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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3/11/2014  5:30 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/why-a-phil-jackson-knicks-marriage-would-eventually-end-in-an-ugly-divorce-220759038.html

This is a more realistic approach about the Jackson Hype !

Before the New York Knicks' hiring of Donnie Walsh six years ago, the commissioner of the NBA wanted to broker a deal to make Jerry Colangelo the franchise's basketball czar. David Stern wanted owner James Dolan to detach himself of his basketball meddling and meet Colangelo's conditions of the franchise's full autonomy.

The embarrassments were endless, the NBA's flagship franchise a smoldering heap of humiliation. Colangelo wanted major money and peerless power, with perhaps a provision that his son, Bryan, could someday replace him as the Knicks president, league sources told Yahoo Sports.

Colangelo knew that the Knicks' culture and final word would always belong to the owner – never him, league sources said. As the managing director of USA Basketball, Colangelo had control, the best players and a far less traumatic path to chasing a championship legacy. Walsh had a soft spot for bringing a title to his New York roots and worked the job with capability, grace and honesty. There was never a hustle with Walsh, never an angle.

Now, the Knicks are negotiating a front-office deal with Phil Jackson. He's pushing for a monumental salary, understanding the leverage his Knicks championship roots and 11 NBA titles as a coach give him in a courtship gone public. One more famous name punches the code into Dolan's Garden ATM, with full understanding the transaction fee is a guarantee of a most unhappy ending.

"Nobody will ever have full autonomy," a high-ranking league official told Yahoo Sports. "Donnie had it in his deal, and when he questioned it, it was, 'See you later.' "

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James Dolan has watched the Knicks struggle to stay in the playoff race this season. (AP)
Make no mistake: Thus far, there's no assurance Jackson will come work for the Knicks. If he does, history tells us the Jackson-Dolan dynamic will end horribly for everyone. Dolan will declare a betrayal, and Jackson will walk away with tens of millions of Cablevision's dollars and a fistful more on a publishing advance to ridicule Dolan's meddling ways and distance himself from whatever failures occurred on his watch.

Far less accomplished people have been hired to run franchises, thus there's no arguing Jackson isn't worthy of an opportunity. Nevertheless, there are significant doubts about Jackson's ability to translate his coaching genius to front-office organization and tenacity. Respected officials doubt his desire to spend the necessary time evaluating talent, constructing a staff beyond those indebted cronies forever at his NBA side. They wonder about his commitment to investing time into the small, mundane assignments that are necessary to turning a loser into a contender. How much time will Jackson even spend in New York?

The Knicks are low on draft picks and assets, long on bad contracts and bad knees. For even the most elite of front-office executives, this is a challenging job – never mind a 68-year-old who'll find little of the adulation of championship-level coaching, and far more the criticism and second-guessing that comes with a rebuild.

Dolan believes Jackson's star power can trump Pat Riley's on the free-agent market, but make no mistake: Before a general manager can chase free-agents star, there needs to be an infrastructure of good, young and inexpensive talent born of savvy scouting and creativity deal-making. Jackson can't snap his fingers and expedite talent to his roster.

Looking back, Dolan delivered broad autonomy to Isiah Thomas – only to watch the excesses of wasteful spending, dysfunction and losing reverberate over a decade. Thomas had almost a mystical ability to work over Dolan, to be the owner's buddy and basketball authority. Isiah worked Dolan in a way that would be beneath Jackson, that his personality and ego will never allow.


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Phil Jackson has continued to spend much of his time in California since retiring as the Lakers coach. (Getty …
For Dolan, Thomas is still the executive with whom everyone else pales. Well beyond Thomas' firing in 2008, Dolan made multiple bids to convince underlings that Thomas needed to be rehired. In one episode described to Yahoo Sports, Dolan had become exasperated with team officials who didn't want a second Garden act for Thomas. With overwhelming evidence to the contrary being presented to Dolan, he finally blurted out: "Isiah is a basketball genius!"

Dolan will never feel so good about Jackson, because Jackson will never let Dolan think he feels so good about him. Divide and conquer has always been Jackson's game plan – from Jerry Krause to Jerry West – and that's unlikely to change now.

Eventually, Jackson will want to explain himself – defend his mistakes, revel in his successes, whatever – and that'll be the beginning of the end for him. Won't matter if he's winning, or losing: The wall of silence at the Garden trumps everything – sellouts, stars and playoffs. In the end, this tells you so much about the pathology of the owner, so much about the trail of clues that assures of a doomed Jackson-Dolan partnership.

"The biggest issue for [Dolan] is the no-talk policy with the media," a high-ranking league official said. "Everybody signs on, except for Walsh. And after that [Dolan] said, "Never again.' "

The saviors come and go for these New York Knicks, and Phil Jackson is still exploring the possibility that he could take his turn restoring glory to the Garden. They'll let Jackson make a lot of decisions there, let him make a lot of money, but as long as he understands the truth he'll never be confused. The Knicks' culture and values belong to James Dolan, and there are no executives – no forces of nature – that will change it.

JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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3/11/2014  5:32 AM

Can James Dolan mesh with Jackson I don't know.

JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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3/11/2014  8:37 AM
It's weird how the media are writing it will be a disaster, but also seem to be campaigning for it not to happen- it's like their trying to lobby Phil not to do it.

This move does have the makings of a disaster- if Phil says no, Mills has already been completely undermined. If you read Isola's piece, Phil doesn't want him as his GM, and it was Dolan who has once again stepped in and taken over. Dolan is beyond a joke- it's amazing that he blames everyone else but never himself.

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3/11/2014  9:43 AM
The papers and media like turmoil. It makes for good stories to sell to the public. Controversy has its fascination with the public so yes I can understand why the papers and media would like the Knicks to remain unstable. I find it funny that the Media keeps saying its going to end horribly for the Knicks. Yes it may end horribly but the Knicks have to try to get better don't they. Phil makes a lot of sense and I think Dolan will give him full autonomy. He did it with IT to a fault and he will for Phil Jackson.

So far it is all speculations and Phil has said nothing. Until he signs the dotted line we should think that its not going to happen.

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3/11/2014  9:45 AM
CrushAlot wrote:Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA · 4h
As I reported in column, still no assurance an agreement will be reached. No one in Jackson's world thinks deal is "close," that's for sure

This was Savy move on the Knicks part to deflect attention. Well played

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3/11/2014  9:52 AM
gunsnewing wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA · 4h
As I reported in column, still no assurance an agreement will be reached. No one in Jackson's world thinks deal is "close," that's for sure

This was Savy move on the Knicks part to deflect attention. Well played

Yes well played indeed. Now where do they go to next JVG, Steve Kerr.

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3/11/2014  9:55 AM
Here's the Woj article on Phil Jackson and the Knicks: http://sports.yahoo.com/news/why-a-phil-jackson-knicks-marriage-would-eventually-end-in-an-ugly-divorce-220759038.html

Before the New York Knicks' hiring of Donnie Walsh six years ago, the commissioner of the NBA wanted to broker a deal to make Jerry Colangelo the franchise's basketball czar. David Stern wanted owner James Dolan to detach himself of his basketball meddling and meet Colangelo's conditions of the franchise's full autonomy.

The embarrassments were endless, the NBA's flagship franchise a smoldering heap of humiliation. Colangelo wanted major money and peerless power, with perhaps a provision that his son, Bryan, could someday replace him as the Knicks president, league sources told Yahoo Sports.

Colangelo knew that the Knicks' culture and final word would always belong to the owner – never him, league sources said. As the managing director of USA Basketball, Colangelo had control, the best players and a far less traumatic path to chasing a championship legacy. Walsh had a soft spot for bringing a title to his New York roots and worked the job with capability, grace and honesty. There was never a hustle with Walsh, never an angle.

Now, the Knicks are negotiating a front-office deal with Phil Jackson. He's pushing for a monumental salary, understanding the leverage his Knicks championship roots and 11 NBA titles as a coach give him in a courtship gone public. One more famous name punches the code into Dolan's Garden ATM, with full understanding the transaction fee is a guarantee of a most unhappy ending.

"Nobody will ever have full autonomy," a high-ranking league official told Yahoo Sports. "Donnie had it in his deal, and when he questioned it, it was, 'See you later.' "


View gallery
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James Dolan has watched the Knicks struggle to stay in the playoff race this season. (AP)
Make no mistake: Thus far, there's no assurance Jackson will come work for the Knicks. If he does, history tells us the Jackson-Dolan dynamic will end horribly for everyone. Dolan will declare a betrayal, and Jackson will walk away with tens of millions of Cablevision's dollars and a fistful more on a publishing advance to ridicule Dolan's meddling ways and distance himself from whatever failures occurred on his watch.
Far less accomplished people have been hired to run franchises, thus there's no arguing Jackson isn't worthy of an opportunity. Nevertheless, there are significant doubts about Jackson's ability to translate his coaching genius to front-office organization and tenacity. Respected officials doubt his desire to spend the necessary time evaluating talent, constructing a staff beyond those indebted cronies forever at his NBA side. They wonder about his commitment to investing time into the small, mundane assignments that are necessary to turning a loser into a contender. How much time will Jackson even spend in New York?

The Knicks are low on draft picks and assets, long on bad contracts and bad knees. For even the most elite of front-office executives, this is a challenging job – never mind a 68-year-old who'll find little of the adulation of championship-level coaching, and far more the criticism and second-guessing that comes with a rebuild.

Dolan believes Jackson's star power can trump Pat Riley's on the free-agent market, but make no mistake: Before a general manager can chase free-agents star, there needs to be an infrastructure of good, young and inexpensive talent born of savvy scouting and creativity deal-making. Jackson can't snap his fingers and expedite talent to his roster.

Looking back, Dolan delivered broad autonomy to Isiah Thomas – only to watch the excesses of wasteful spending, dysfunction and losing reverberate over a decade. Thomas had almost a mystical ability to work over Dolan, to be the owner's buddy and basketball authority. Isiah worked Dolan in a way that would be beneath Jackson, that his personality and ego will never allow.


View gallery
.
Phil Jackson has continued to spend much of his time in California since retiring as the Lakers coach. (Getty …
For Dolan, Thomas is still the executive with whom everyone else pales. Well beyond Thomas' firing in 2008, Dolan made multiple bids to convince underlings that Thomas needed to be rehired. In one episode described to Yahoo Sports, Dolan had become exasperated with team officials who didn't want a second Garden act for Thomas. With overwhelming evidence to the contrary being presented to Dolan, he finally blurted out: "Isiah is a basketball genius!"
Dolan will never feel so good about Jackson, because Jackson will never let Dolan think he feels so good about him. Divide and conquer has always been Jackson's game plan – from Jerry Krause to Jerry West – and that's unlikely to change now.

Eventually, Jackson will want to explain himself – defend his mistakes, revel in his successes, whatever – and that'll be the beginning of the end for him. Won't matter if he's winning, or losing: The wall of silence at the Garden trumps everything – sellouts, stars and playoffs. In the end, this tells you so much about the pathology of the owner, so much about the trail of clues that assures of a doomed Jackson-Dolan partnership.

"The biggest issue for [Dolan] is the no-talk policy with the media," a high-ranking league official said. "Everybody signs on, except for Walsh. And after that [Dolan] said, "Never again.' "

The saviors come and go for these New York Knicks, and Phil Jackson is still exploring the possibility that he could take his turn restoring glory to the Garden. They'll let Jackson make a lot of decisions there, let him make a lot of money, but as long as he understands the truth he'll never be confused. The Knicks' culture and values belong to James Dolan, and there are no executives – no forces of nature – that will change it.

Honestly, if the only thing that comes out of this is Phil Jackson writing a tell-all book that embarrasses the **** out of Dolan I'll consider it a success!

Now the joy of my world is in Zion How beautiful if nothing more Than to wait at Zion's door I've never been in love like this before Now let me pray to keep you from The perils that will surely come
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3/11/2014  10:06 AM
Vmart wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA · 4h
As I reported in column, still no assurance an agreement will be reached. No one in Jackson's world thinks deal is "close," that's for sure

This was Savy move on the Knicks part to deflect attention. Well played

Yes well played indeed. Now where do they go to next JVG, Steve Kerr.

That would be awesome as a GM/coach combo

Or they will just keep Mills and Michael Woodson

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3/11/2014  10:11 AM
gunsnewing wrote:
Vmart wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA · 4h
As I reported in column, still no assurance an agreement will be reached. No one in Jackson's world thinks deal is "close," that's for sure

This was Savy move on the Knicks part to deflect attention. Well played

Yes well played indeed. Now where do they go to next JVG, Steve Kerr.

That would be awesome as a GM/coach combo

Or they will just keep Mills and Michael Woodson

They do have a draft pick next year and whole lot of cap room coming because Melo will leave.

BREAKING NEWS: ESPN and USA Today Report Uncle Phil Coming to NYC (not confirmed)

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